Is the transparency and the Bungie logo is legal?

I have seen many people with the Bungie label and with transparency. I would like to know if that is a reason for banning in xbox live or in Halo Reach. Thank you

Bungie label: superheroe02's Xbox Halo: Reach gameplay. Find your Xbox One screenshots on GamerDVR.com

Neither of those links have a screenshot available. I think I know what you’re talking about though. The Bungie nameplate was given out when Reach was still the latest Halo game. It’s nothing illegal and not something that can get a player banned. However, it isn’t earnable anymore.

If you modded your profile / game to give yourself those items then that is absolutely bannable. Transparent nameplates can only be obtained by modding and you will get banned if you do that.

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> Neither of those links have a screenshot available. I think I know what you’re talking about though. The Bungie nameplate was given out when Reach was still the latest Halo game. It’s nothing illegal and not something that can get a player banned. However, it isn’t earnable anymore.

This link works superheroe02's Xbox Halo: Reach gameplay. Find your Xbox One screenshots on GamerDVR.com

As you can see, it is different since this bungie label appears in the game.

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> If you modded your profile / game to give yourself those items then that is absolutely bannable. Transparent nameplates can only be obtained by modding and you will get banned if you do that.

Thanks friend

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> > Neither of those links have a screenshot available. I think I know what you’re talking about though. The Bungie nameplate was given out when Reach was still the latest Halo game. It’s nothing illegal and not something that can get a player banned. However, it isn’t earnable anymore.
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> This link works superheroe02's Xbox Halo: Reach gameplay. Find your Xbox One screenshots on GamerDVR.com
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> As you can see, it is different since this bungie label appears in the game.

Okay yeah, that’s definitely not something you can get without hacking haha.

I report them, along with cheaters, every time I see them. According to r/xbox and my experience, nothing is being done for 360 in regards to moderation. I did call one guy out on his modded blue flame and he got mad, so at least I have that.

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> I report them, along with cheaters, every time I see them. According to r/xbox and my experience, nothing is being done for 360 in regards to moderation. I did call one guy out on his modded blue flame and he got mad, so at least I have that.

And what, exactly, do you get from getting these people kicked from services they pay for? You should definitely report cheating, but if someone makes a minor, non-gameplay-altering change (such as making their visor blue) then how does that hurt your gaming experience to the point of justifying actually hurting theirs?

Remember: just because it’s a rule that doesn’t mean you have to do Microsoft’s job for free. Let their bots potentially find these people to enforce the rules, but don’t do it yourself unless you’re offered a paycheck for doing so.

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> Remember: just because it’s a rule that doesn’t mean you have to do Microsoft’s job for free. Let their bots potentially find these people to enforce the rules, but don’t do it yourself unless you’re offered a paycheck for doing so.

Automates systems cannot detect and catch everything though, so it’s always beneficial for players to report things they see as well. Outliers are always a possibility.

To put it another way, though it’s a slightly overkill example: if you saw a crime happening would you not report it just becuase police officers exist? Of ycourse you would report it, it’s the right thing to do.

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> > Remember: just because it’s a rule that doesn’t mean you have to do Microsoft’s job for free. Let their bots potentially find these people to enforce the rules, but don’t do it yourself unless you’re offered a paycheck for doing so.
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> Automates systems cannot detect and catch everything though, so it’s always beneficial for players to report things they see as well. Outliers are always a possibility.
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> To put it another way, though it’s a slightly overkill example: if you saw a crime happening would you not report it just becuase police officers exist? Of ycourse you would report it, it’s the right thing to do.

If the law being broken was one relating to, say, the use of plastic straws then of course I wouldn’t report it. If someone modifies a video game to add a transparency effect to a rectangle with their name in it then how does that negatively impact my gaming experience? Even if such an act goes against the rules of the service they’re playing the game on, the fact of the matter is that bots are put into place to detect these things and, while they may not catch everything, there’s no reason to report such a small thing without being paid to do so.

I mean if the color purple was outlawed, would you report someone wearing the color purple? Or would you instead put that energy towards reporting someone who’s committing a crime that actually negatively affects others? If you would report that purple shirt then I really hope that leash isn’t too tight as I wouldn’t want you to be uncomfortable.

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> > > Remember: just because it’s a rule that doesn’t mean you have to do Microsoft’s job for free. Let their bots potentially find these people to enforce the rules, but don’t do it yourself unless you’re offered a paycheck for doing so.
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> > Automates systems cannot detect and catch everything though, so it’s always beneficial for players to report things they see as well. Outliers are always a possibility.
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> > To put it another way, though it’s a slightly overkill example: if you saw a crime happening would you not report it just becuase police officers exist? Of ycourse you would report it, it’s the right thing to do.
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> If the law being broken was one relating to, say, the use of plastic straws then of course I wouldn’t report it. If someone modifies a video game to add a transparency effect to a rectangle with their name in it then how does that negatively impact my gaming experience? Even if such an act goes against the rules of the service they’re playing the game on, the fact of the matter is that bots are put into place to detect these things and, while they may not catch everything, there’s no reason to report such a small thing without being paid to do so.
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> I mean if the color purple was outlawed, would you report someone wearing the color purple? Or would you instead put that energy towards reporting someone who’s committing a crime that actually negatively affects others? If you would report that purple shirt then I really hope that leash isn’t too tight as I wouldn’t want you to be uncomfortable.

If the use of plastic straws was unequivocally related to a machine of criminal activity, then yes, I would report it to the police. Say, if it were known to all that only the mafia manufactures plastic straws with a purpose of breaking the law and there is absolutely no legally acceptable background to the manufacture of the straws.

It’s the same here. There is no legally acceptable background to Halo modding. It’s strictly forbidden in all of its forms, and it’s only being carried out with a purpose of breaking that prohibition. Regardless of how “harmless” the mod may be, using it supports the machine of rule-breaking and gives the creators of the mods incentive to carry on.

So, yes, I have reported and will continue to report every transparent nameplate alongside more vicious mods.

You cannot equivocate moderation of a videogame and the law. If you were to make a report of purple shirts, straws, or something equally harmless the likely case is that nothing would happen with the worst being a cops time is wasted on nothing when he could be patrolling or taking care of a more serious matter. Furthermore something being a law does not make that law valuable or ethical.

I’m just here for this riveting argument. Though it is a mod that isn’t allowed, I will say the BUNGiE tags in game is pretty dope.

To simplify the OP’s question, 343i (The current developer of Halo) as well as Bungie (The previous developer of Halo) is against Modding and Cheating. They do not deliberately enable it. Combine that with LIVE’s Code of Conduct and Terms of Use, Modding and Cheating is bannable as it violates CoC and ToU. Due to the nature of the two items, I have to break it down for both cases.

-Bungie Nameplate: This was given out as a parting gift with the Eternal Armor Effect (Blue Flames) by Bungie to people on the Bungie app or b.net on 07/07/2011 (Bungie Day 2011) and is linked to the LIVE Profile’s email, not the LIVE Account itself. If a player started playing Halo: Reach before 07/07/2011, chances are that they recieved it legitimately from Bungie Day 2011. If a player however started playing Halo: Reach after 07/07/2011 and has a Bungie nameplate, they modded to get it, in which I say report them for violating CoC. Despite being cosmetic, when people mod to get it, it takes away value from people who got it legitimately when it was offered, and if you will degrades the quality of LIVE services in that regard.

-Bungie Logo Service Tag replacing a player’s Four Letter/Number Service Tag: There is no legitimate way to change your four number/letter service tag to the Bungie Logo. Anybody who has one modded to get it, in which I say report them for violating CoC as they should not have it (And if they’re modding that, what else may they be potentially modding, violating CoC again and again).

-Color Modification to a player’s Four Letter/Number Service Tag: There is no legitimate way to modify the color to your four number/letter service tag to what you want it to be. Anybody who has one modded to get it, in which I say report them for violating CoC as they should not have it (And if they’re modding that, what else may they be potentially modding, violating CoC again and again).

-Transparent Nameplates: There is no legitimate way to unlock a transparent nameplate. Anybody who has one modded to get it, in which I say report them for violating CoC as they should not have it (And if they’re modding that, what else may they be potentially modding, violating CoC again and again).

Edit: Bungie Nameplates and Transparent Nameplates are considered to be what as known as ‘Premium Content’ which as value to it due to either having a special prerequisite to unlock it that may or may not be available to unlock it anymore (for examples the Eternal Armor Effect and Bungie Nameplate on Halo: Reach, The Fire and Ice Unicorn Skins in Halo 5: Guardians, and the Corbulo Emblem in Halo 4), or locked content that cannot be unlocked at all through legitimate means (Such as the DMR Concrete and Battle Rifle Blast skins in Halo 4, as well as the three Halo: Reach Beta Chestplates in the Reach gamefiles). At the end of the day, Premium Content that can be unlocked through special means, or at one time was unlockable but no longer is now has value to it and people who have it can show it as it has meaning.

It’s like with the example here, you meet a two new friends on XBox LIVE to play Halo: Reach with. Both proclaim to have the Bungie nameplate and Eternal Armor effect and show you the nameplate via screenshot and the armor effect in person. The first new person’s game history shows he was playing Reach since release, so it’s like “Hey! That’s awesome, you were active during Bungie Day 2011 and you have those eternal flames to show for it. Nice!”, which shows value and can open upto more dialogue as well.

The second friend was only playing since 2017 from the game history records on their profile, which at that point you know he mods, in which he likely cheats in other ways as well. You kind of have to wonder what else he is doing, and you really don’t want to find out, not to mention there’s a stigma to him getting Blue Flames and a Bungie nameplate ill-legitimately, kind of like he’s flipping you off, taking away from the value of that premium content. He missed his chance to get the premium content. He knew doing so ill-legitimately would violate CoC, but he treated CoC as nothing more than a suggestion and used an ill-legitimate mean to serve himself for personal in-game gain that isn’t possible legitimately. It has a bad vibe to it.

When people use ill-legitimate means to get said premium content (Especially that which was available at one time, but now is not) , it does take the value away from the premium content and in doing that does degrade the quality of LIVE’s Services, and is discouraging towards those who did get their premium content legitimately. Note that discussing how to unlock ‘Premium Content’ through ill-legitimate means whether it be glitch, exploit, modding, hacking, etc. does violate the Waypoint forum rules as it is considered ‘Discussing Modding/Hacking’, just a heads up for future replies towards this post.

Second Edit: As a Halo Photographer, ‘Premium Content’ can make for some amazing artsy screenshots in Halo as well (As an aspect of the value it has). Here are some examples from Reach:

Eternal
Paper Lanterns
Mainframe
Burning Up
Blue Team I
Hunter Vs. Hunter

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> > > > Remember: just because it’s a rule that doesn’t mean you have to do Microsoft’s job for free. Let their bots potentially find these people to enforce the rules, but don’t do it yourself unless you’re offered a paycheck for doing so.
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> > > Automates systems cannot detect and catch everything though, so it’s always beneficial for players to report things they see as well. Outliers are always a possibility.
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> > > To put it another way, though it’s a slightly overkill example: if you saw a crime happening would you not report it just becuase police officers exist? Of ycourse you would report it, it’s the right thing to do.
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> > If the law being broken was one relating to, say, the use of plastic straws then of course I wouldn’t report it. If someone modifies a video game to add a transparency effect to a rectangle with their name in it then how does that negatively impact my gaming experience? Even if such an act goes against the rules of the service they’re playing the game on, the fact of the matter is that bots are put into place to detect these things and, while they may not catch everything, there’s no reason to report such a small thing without being paid to do so.
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> > I mean if the color purple was outlawed, would you report someone wearing the color purple? Or would you instead put that energy towards reporting someone who’s committing a crime that actually negatively affects others? If you would report that purple shirt then I really hope that leash isn’t too tight as I wouldn’t want you to be uncomfortable.
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> If the use of plastic straws was unequivocally related to a machine of criminal activity, then yes, I would report it to the police. Say, if it were known to all that only the mafia manufactures plastic straws with a purpose of breaking the law and there is absolutely no legally acceptable background to the manufacture of the straws.
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> It’s the same here. There is no legally acceptable background to Halo modding. It’s strictly forbidden in all of its forms, and it’s only being carried out with a purpose of breaking that prohibition. Regardless of how “harmless” the mod may be, using it supports the machine of rule-breaking and gives the creators of the mods incentive to carry on.
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> So, yes, I have reported and will continue to report every transparent nameplate alongside more vicious mods.

Then you’re nothing but a dog on a leash. The fact that a rule exists doesn’t automatically justify that rule, so your admittance to blind acceptance of all rules is quite saddening.

I’ll continue to allow people to enjoy their straws while only reporting those whose actions infringe on the rights of others.

Good time to close off. The facts are that modding these on to your profile are not allowed, they can and will get your account banned once systems catch up with you. You’re welcome to disagree but it doesn’t change the rules you agreed to when signing up for Xbox Live and playing the game. You break the rules you suffer the consequences :slight_smile: