Basically what the tile just said, I’ve heard a lot of people nag about how Kilo-five has lots of inconsistencies and bad writing!
well is it worth the investment?
Well I just started it last night and some this morning and inconsistencies are there from the start. I’m going to finish all then but it is a little ridiculous. I want to know where spartan 010 came from. Seem she was magically pull out of someone you know.
Sure. Mortal Dictata is the best out of them because of Staffan Sentzke being a very sympathetic character and Chol Von shedding light on the Kig-Yar perspective of the post-war galaxy. Jul 'Mdama’s role in Glasslands and Thursday War are cool. The rest? Yeah, not so much.
Yeah, I enjoyed it. It explains a lot about how Jul came to power, and how bad of a state the elites are in.
It has a lot of important info in it, and I do like Karen’s writing style but she didn’t research the franchise so there’s a lot of things wrong with it. As long as you can get past the irrational hate for Halsey, it’s worth it.
Eh, if you want to understand the post-war galaxy pretty well, then it is very important to read them. It has it’s ups, but it is mostly pretty bad.
Pros:
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Karen Traviss does have a very engaging writing style, and it does help to make the books a swift and casual read.
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Some of the new characters are rather interesting, mostly the main sangheili characters though.
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The Innies aren’t demonized to no end for the first time since Cole Protocol. Although they still are shed with a rather negative light.
Cons:
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The controversial Halsey hate all started with this trilogy, and it was executed very, very poorly and spontaneously.
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The Sangheili were transformed from a race of proud, intellectual warriors to hive-mind savages that can’t even farm their own crops, and instead have slaves do it for them (why a proud race would resort to slaves/servants is beyond me). Sangheilios is also shown to have been heavily degraded after the war, with some clans having to resort to using human equipment… Even though the war never so much as scratched Sangheilios.
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Humanity is quite the contrary, after 3 decades of starring extinction in the face, they have magically recovered their economic and military prowess, and have transformed into the Mary Sues of the galaxy.
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If you are well acquainted with philosophy and anthropology, you will literally want to tear you’re hair out whenever you read about Vaz. Apparently black and white morality is still relevant in the 26th century and enhancing children is comparable to the acts of -Yoink!- scientists.
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Various other inconsistencies that you can find on Halopedia.
I couldn’t finish the first book, and have read most other Halo books. I have no interest in continuing the trilogy, it infuriated me. But I’m weird about books and universes, so my opinion should be counted as less important than others.
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> Eh, if you want to understand the post-war galaxy pretty well, then it is very important to read them. It has it’s ups, but it is mostly pretty bad.
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> Pros:
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> - Karen Traviss does have a very engaging writing style, and it does help to make the books a swift and casual read.
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> - Some of the new characters are rather interesting, mostly the main sangheili characters though.
>
> - The Innies aren’t demonized to no end for the first time since Cole Protocol. Although they still are shed with a rather negative light.
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> Cons:
>
> - The controversial Halsey hate all started with this trilogy, and it was executed very, very poorly and spontaneously.
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> - The Sangheili were transformed from a race of proud, intellectual warriors to hive-mind savages that can’t even farm their own crops, and instead have slaves do it for them (why a proud race would resort to slaves/servants is beyond me). Sangheilios is also shown to have been heavily degraded after the war, with some clans having to resort to using human equipment… Even though the war never so much as scratched Sangheilios.
>
> - Humanity is quite the contrary, after 3 decades of starring extinction in the face, they have magically recovered their economic and military prowess, and have transformed into the Mary Sues of the galaxy.
>
> - If you are well acquainted with philosophy and anthropology, you will literally want to tear you’re hair out whenever you read about Vaz. Apparently black and white morality is still relevant in the 26th century and enhancing children is comparable to the acts of -Yoink!- scientists.
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> - Various other inconsistencies that you can find on Halopedia.
I have to add about 40 inconsistencies regarding the covenant in that list. K5 sucks, completely. Only mortal Dictata is close to average.
This is all sounding too bad but I really want to know what the heck happened after the war + I’m almost done reading Ghosts of Onyx and I hear Glasslands is kinda a followup to that! anyways I’ll probably get the series later on 
It depends. Karren Traviss is hit or miss. Either you really love her writing or hate it. Her biggest problem with the Halo series over the Gears and SW: Republic Commando is that she didn’t much background research and just read foot notes and based her books off them instead of playing/ reading prior entries into the halo Universe to keep her canon straight.
But Overall, it puts a great spin of the universe. If you can get past some of the minor Problems, they are very good books to read. Puts a very human spin on the Spartan 2s and Insurrection.
Glasslands is by far the best, with Mortal Dictata being the weakest. The writing is… very moralistic. Karen Traviss seems to like to use her books as a moral soapbox. The Halsey-hate spews forth every couple of pages at one point. I believe there’s even a comparison to the -Yoink!-, Dr. Joseph Mengele at one point. Go for Greg Bear’s writing first. Trust me.
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> Eh, if you want to understand the post-war galaxy pretty well, then it is very important to read them. It has it’s ups, but it is mostly pretty bad.
>
> Pros:
>
> - Karen Traviss does have a very engaging writing style, and it does help to make the books a swift and casual read.
>
> - Some of the new characters are rather interesting, mostly the main sangheili characters though.
>
> - The Innies aren’t demonized to no end for the first time since Cole Protocol. Although they still are shed with a rather negative light.
>
> Cons:
>
> - The controversial Halsey hate all started with this trilogy, and it was executed very, very poorly and spontaneously.
>
> - The Sangheili were transformed from a race of proud, intellectual warriors to hive-mind savages that can’t even farm their own crops, and instead have slaves do it for them (why a proud race would resort to slaves/servants is beyond me). Sangheilios is also shown to have been heavily degraded after the war, with some clans having to resort to using human equipment… Even though the war never so much as scratched Sangheilios.
>
> - Humanity is quite the contrary, after 3 decades of starring extinction in the face, they have magically recovered their economic and military prowess, and have transformed into the Mary Sues of the galaxy.
>
> - If you are well acquainted with philosophy and anthropology, you will literally want to tear you’re hair out whenever you read about Vaz. Apparently black and white morality is still relevant in the 26th century and enhancing children is comparable to the acts of -Yoink!- scientists.
>
> - Various other inconsistencies that you can find on Halopedia.
i have no idea where you got that from but i think you are talkng about the warthog one of the sangheili brought back as a trophy.
The trilogy is a decent read. I think the story should be made into a future game. Maybe by then 343 will bring back Reach’s multiplayer into those games.
they are horrible books.
whenever I lie down to read one I fall asleep after 20 pages. I cant wait till I’m done mortal potato so I can put Travis trash in a shoebox and read new blood and broken circle.
Never understood why people don’t like them. They’re easily my favourite Halo books.
How people don’t understand the Halsey hate is beyond me. I like the character enough, but if she was a real, actual person, you can be damn sure she’d be more or less universally hated.
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> i have no idea where you got that from but i think you are talkng about the warthog one of the sangheili brought back as a trophy.
Or the arms trade between Telcam and ONI.
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> Never understood why people don’t like them. They’re easily my favourite Halo books.
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> How people don’t understand the Halsey hate is beyond me. I like the character enough, but if she was a real, actual person, you can be damn sure she’d be more or less universally hated.
in a world where Ackerson gets a war memoial halsey should be hailed as a hero.memorial, halsey
Read Glasslands to get your follow up on the GoO crew. If you liked the book / the new characters, read the next two. If not, then stop and Halopedia the rest of it.
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> Sure. Mortal Dictata is the best out of them because of Staffan Sentzke being a very sympathetic character and Chol Von shedding light on the Kig-Yar perspective of the post-war galaxy. Jul 'Mdama’s role in Glasslands and Thursday War are cool. The rest? Yeah, not so much.
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> It has a lot of important info in it, and I do like Karen’s writing style but she didn’t research the franchise so there’s a lot of things wrong with it. As long as you can get past the irrational hate for Halsey, it’s worth it.
Pretty much this.
I loved her writing style but there are a ton of inconsistencies. I’m also hoping parts of it get retconned, like
Lucy punching Halsey and Halsey pretty much shaking it off,but I did really enjoy reading through them.
I’ve read the first two Kilo-5 books. It was such a terrible experience, I’ve go no motivation to read the last one, Mortal Dictata.
Never had I come across a manipulative charade of character assassination, moral arrogance and single minded self-righteous behavior from it’s characters.
Not to mention the large number of inconsistencies. Karen Travis once stated that she never read much about the Halo Universe, which explains her complete disregard for source material.