Title says it all…
Never got 1 reply lasttime I made this topic. Kinda pissed bout that. Anyway…
EDIT: You know like textures load quicker, less time for Loading between missions, etc.
Want to know this for Campaign, I have Reach. I want to play MP I’ll go to that. But does the Campaign play better essentially?
I can’t say for sure, but if you’ve got the space, u might as well do it!! I plan on doin it soon, it might make coop lag a lil less frequent…
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I know from installing reach and odst it helped campaign load and play smoother…
Yes, loading times are a tad faster. It’s not really much difference you’ll notice, if any at all, but at least it “feels” quicker.
Besides, I strongly recommend to always install a game you’re going to play a lot simply to reduce strain on the DVD drive and thus increase its lifespan. I do that regardless of whether or not this improves loading times, and only refrain from installing to the HDD if this actually increases loading times. The only game I know of where that happens is Halo 3, though, and Bungie even advised against installing H3.
Yes, most new 360 games work pretty well installing to the hard drive.
However, I think multiplayer still runs from the disc even if you install the game since a different engine is used. Personally, I just downloaded the maps and use my Reach disc (which I installed) for multiplayer.
Pretty much yeah. If you have the available space, go for It. It will dramatically improve Load times, Halo is known to have the longest load time. Installing it to the HDD will help. It will also increase your Xbox’s Optical Drive’s Lifespan and brings down the noise level.
> Yes, most new 360 games work pretty well installing to the hard drive.
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> However, I think multiplayer still runs from the disc even if you install the game since a different engine is used. Personally, I just downloaded the maps and use my Reach disc (which I installed) for multiplayer.
Multiplayer will run from the Hard Drive as well as any other game mode.
When you install a game to the Hard Drive, mainly Halo, it is not causing the disk to spin, stopping overheating, hardware failure (disk drive) and a big one - knocking your console over scratching your disk.
Primarily, it makes the maps load faster for you personally, however, when on Xbox LIVE, your map will load as slow as the slowest person, so it doesn’t make much difference there.
> However, I think multiplayer still runs from the disc even if you install the game since a different engine is used. Personally, I just downloaded the maps and use my Reach disc (which I installed) for multiplayer.
No. The installation copies the entire data from the disc to the Hard Drive. Regardless If It’s Single Player or Multiplayer. The only time the Xbox will ever access the disc is when you put It in the Tray. It will verify If you have [this game] inserted in your Xbox and it will transfer over to the HDD where your install is located.
> The only time the Xbox will ever access the disc is when you put It in the Tray. It will verify If you have [this game] inserted in your Xbox and it will transfer over to the HDD where your install is located.
True. However, I did notice that it takes waaaay longer for the DVD drive to come to a stop again in HCEA than in any other game I’ve played.
The DVD drive spins up when I start a game to verify the disc is in the tray, and comes to a stop again after only a few moments. In HCEA, however, it keeps spinning for several minutes and sounds quite busy as if loading data or at least trying to. It sounds rather unhealthy, to be honest. No other game does that, and the HCEA disc is 100% free of scratches, fingerprints, dust, etc.
> > The only time the Xbox will ever access the disc is when you put It in the Tray. It will verify If you have [this game] inserted in your Xbox and it will transfer over to the HDD where your install is located.
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> True. However, I did notice that it takes waaaay longer for the DVD drive to come to a stop again in HCEA than in any other game I’ve played.
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> The DVD drive spins up when I start a game to verify the disc is in the tray, and comes to a stop again after only a few moments. In HCEA, however, it keeps spinning for several minutes and sounds quite busy as if loading data or at least trying to. It sounds rather unhealthy, to be honest. No other game does that, and the HCEA disc is 100% free of scratches, fingerprints, dust, etc.
Wierd, I don’t get that.
Installing any game helps it noise wise to the xbox. Aswell as faster loading and smoother game play.
The two main differences that I have noticed from installing is that my XBOX 360 makes little noise while playing like every game you can install, and levels don’t have to cache before you can play. You will still have the quick loading screen but that’s only a few seconds.
> > The only time the Xbox will ever access the disc is when you put It in the Tray. It will verify If you have [this game] inserted in your Xbox and it will transfer over to the HDD where your install is located.
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> True. However, I did notice that it takes waaaay longer for the DVD drive to come to a stop again in HCEA than in any other game I’ve played.
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> The DVD drive spins up when I start a game to verify the disc is in the tray, and comes to a stop again after only a few moments. In HCEA, however, it keeps spinning for several minutes and sounds quite busy as if loading data or at least trying to. It sounds rather unhealthy, to be honest. No other game does that, and the HCEA disc is 100% free of scratches, fingerprints, dust, etc.
Hmm, It shouldn’t be loading from the disc anymore because all the data (textures, music, sounds, maps, etc) are already in the Hard Drive. Do you have the Slim or the Original 360’s?
I’m pretty sure someone at 343 said that CEA does indeed perform better when installed.
is the game better?
no, its the same game.
does it load faster?
yes.
It just loads faster, not that it had slow loading times in the first place.
> > The only time the Xbox will ever access the disc is when you put It in the Tray. It will verify If you have [this game] inserted in your Xbox and it will transfer over to the HDD where your install is located.
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> True. However, I did notice that it takes waaaay longer for the DVD drive to come to a stop again in HCEA than in any other game I’ve played.
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> The DVD drive spins up when I start a game to verify the disc is in the tray, and comes to a stop again after only a few moments. In HCEA, however, it keeps spinning for several minutes and sounds quite busy as if loading data or at least trying to. It sounds rather unhealthy, to be honest. No other game does that, and the HCEA disc is 100% free of scratches, fingerprints, dust, etc.
It never used to do this for me, but then it just started having to spin for 5 mins before stopping. CEA is the only game that does this.
> > True. However, I did notice that it takes waaaay longer for the DVD drive to come to a stop again in HCEA than in any other game I’ve played.
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> > The DVD drive spins up when I start a game to verify the disc is in the tray, and comes to a stop again after only a few moments. In HCEA, however, it keeps spinning for several minutes and sounds quite busy as if loading data or at least trying to. It sounds rather unhealthy, to be honest. No other game does that, and the HCEA disc is 100% free of scratches, fingerprints, dust, etc.
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> Hmm, It shouldn’t be loading from the disc anymore because all the data (textures, music, sounds, maps, etc) are already in the Hard Drive. Do you have the Slim or the Original 360’s?
It’s a non-slim Elite, about 1 1/2 years old. And I install all the games I’m playing precisely because I want to go easy on the DVD drive.
> It never used to do this for me, but then it just started having to spin for 5 mins before stopping. CEA is the only game that does this.
Once it has stopped spinning and you switch from campaign to multiplayer (or vice versa), does it spin up again to perform what seems to be another disc check? It does that for me.
> I’m pretty sure someone at 343 said that CEA does indeed perform better when installed.
Far as I can remember, the ONLY game that was recommended NOT to install on the HDD was Halo 3 as it actually made load times faster.
I <3 my Slim. 250GB is almost too much. I have over a dozen games installed (and a few are multi-discs) plus about 50 XBLA games and some other stuff and I still have just under 60GB left.
> Far as I can remember, the ONLY game that was recommended NOT to install on the HDD was Halo 3 as it actually made load times faster.
Correct. Bungie used a technique to copy large amounts of data from the disc to a temporary cache on the HDD while you were playing. Once that data was needed, loading it from the cache was quicker than loading it from the disc. And this also allowed the game to load data from two sources simultaneously, i.e. the disc and the cache on the HDD.
But if you installed Halo 3 and thus made it unnecessary for the game to cache data since it now already was on the HDD, this turned the whole caching process into extra work the game didn’t have to do anymore but did regardless because it was coded that way. Additionally, the game now had only one source from which to load data, i.e. the HDD, thus increasing loading times even more.
And just to clarify it, you can and actually should install H3:ODST to your HDD. Bungie changed the whole caching process in-between H3 and ODST to allow for faster loading times when you have the game installed.
I’ve heard the extra spinning is caused by the new disc format introduced recently, the one that frees up some more disc space for developers because of a change in how the disc checks work. I’ve noticed it with Assassin’s Creed: Revelations as well.