I found myself looking through the Mark VI Halopedia page after following a link on a thread and I had a realization:
Cortana custom modified Chief’s default Mark VI into what we see him wear today, and he just shows up to work for the UNSC wearing it. Then, his suit gets destroyed and he needs a replacement, and it just so happens that his replacement is visually a 1-1 recreation of what Cortana made. So did whoever just take some Mark VI and got a few people to custom make the Chief a new suit (probably just because its The Chief?) The Halopedia page says what Chief currently wears is called the GEN 2 Mark VI MOD, which doesn’t exactly line up with UNSC suit naming conventions. So what’s the deal with Chief’s new Mark VI?
It was technically one of a kind, during Halo 4 and up until Escalations. After the Skirmish On Installation 03 it was replaced with a similar suit. Considering its similarities with CENTURION-Class MJOLNIR, I don’t think it’s one of a kind anymore. Maybe customized, but it’s implied that more have been produced, it’s designated as the GEN2 Mark VI MOD.
Ahh someone read all my edits on Halopedia. They took forever to do. Getting all the Mark VI variants sorted.(also did this for Mark IV and Mark V)
I can confirm the Mark VI Mod designation though for his Gen 2 Mark VI. It was confirmed in Halo 5s limited edition mission briefing.
Yes its different to his Cortanafied Mark VI. There is small changes to the armor. Not huge. But the visor and undersuit are different for example. There is other tiny changes. But they are the big ones.
So ultimately the armors are not exactly the same as suggested.
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> Ahh someone read all my edits on Halopedia. They took forever to do. Getting all the Mark VI variants sorted.(also did this for Mark IV and Mark V)
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> I can confirm the Mark VI Mod designation though for his Gen 2 Mark VI. It was confirmed in Halo 5s limited edition mission briefing.
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> Yes its different to his Cortanafied Mark VI. There is small changes to the armor. Not huge. But the visor and undersuit are different for example. There is other tiny changes. But they are the big ones.
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> So ultimately the armors are not exactly the same as suggested.
But is the Mark VI Mod unique? Or are there more? I’d assume Materials Group (or whatever UNSC branch supplied the armor) wouldn’t make just one. Also why the name ‘Mod’ at the end? I assume it mean modification but, really there couldn’t be a bit more appealing name for it?
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> > Ahh someone read all my edits on Halopedia. They took forever to do. Getting all the Mark VI variants sorted.(also did this for Mark IV and Mark V)
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> > I can confirm the Mark VI Mod designation though for his Gen 2 Mark VI. It was confirmed in Halo 5s limited edition mission briefing.
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> > Yes its different to his Cortanafied Mark VI. There is small changes to the armor. Not huge. But the visor and undersuit are different for example. There is other tiny changes. But they are the big ones.
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> > So ultimately the armors are not exactly the same as suggested.
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> But is the Mark VI Mod unique? Or are there more? I’d assume Materials Group (or whatever UNSC branch supplied the armor) wouldn’t make just one. Also why the name ‘Mod’ at the end? I assume it mean modification but, really there couldn’t be a bit more appealing name for it?
Deffo Materials Group made it. An earlier canon fodder says its the Materials Group.(though the description is for the Normal Pure Gen2 variant)
Though is it unique to John-117… I can not say. Unlikely it is unique but there is little chance we will see another spartan wear the armor just so we know John by seeing him.
Remember people thought Nicole-458 in Dead or Alive 4 was John. Despite the Gender being different. All cause she wore Mark VI armor.
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> > > Ahh someone read all my edits on Halopedia. They took forever to do. Getting all the Mark VI variants sorted.(also did this for Mark IV and Mark V)
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> > > I can confirm the Mark VI Mod designation though for his Gen 2 Mark VI. It was confirmed in Halo 5s limited edition mission briefing.
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> > > Yes its different to his Cortanafied Mark VI. There is small changes to the armor. Not huge. But the visor and undersuit are different for example. There is other tiny changes. But they are the big ones.
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> > > So ultimately the armors are not exactly the same as suggested.
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> > But is the Mark VI Mod unique? Or are there more? I’d assume Materials Group (or whatever UNSC branch supplied the armor) wouldn’t make just one. Also why the name ‘Mod’ at the end? I assume it mean modification but, really there couldn’t be a bit more appealing name for it?
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> Deffo Materials Group made it. An earlier canon fodder says its the Materials Group.(though the description is for the Normal Pure Gen2 variant)
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> Though is it unique to John-117… I can not say. Unlikely it is unique but there is little chance we will see another spartan wear the armor just so we know John by seeing him.
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> Remember people thought Nicole-458 in Dead or Alive 4 was John. Despite the Gender being different. All cause she wore Mark VI armor.
Well of course it was assumed that we wouldn’t see any other Spartan with it, just why isn’t the armor available in multiplayer if it isn’t unique? Also has there been an explanation for why the GEN2 Centurion armor and John’s GEN2 Mark VI Mod look similar?
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> > > > Ahh someone read all my edits on Halopedia. They took forever to do. Getting all the Mark VI variants sorted.(also did this for Mark IV and Mark V)
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> > > > I can confirm the Mark VI Mod designation though for his Gen 2 Mark VI. It was confirmed in Halo 5s limited edition mission briefing.
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> > > > Yes its different to his Cortanafied Mark VI. There is small changes to the armor. Not huge. But the visor and undersuit are different for example. There is other tiny changes. But they are the big ones.
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> > > > So ultimately the armors are not exactly the same as suggested.
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> > > But is the Mark VI Mod unique? Or are there more? I’d assume Materials Group (or whatever UNSC branch supplied the armor) wouldn’t make just one. Also why the name ‘Mod’ at the end? I assume it mean modification but, really there couldn’t be a bit more appealing name for it?
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> > Deffo Materials Group made it. An earlier canon fodder says its the Materials Group.(though the description is for the Normal Pure Gen2 variant)
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> > Though is it unique to John-117… I can not say. Unlikely it is unique but there is little chance we will see another spartan wear the armor just so we know John by seeing him.
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> > Remember people thought Nicole-458 in Dead or Alive 4 was John. Despite the Gender being different. All cause she wore Mark VI armor.
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> Well of course it was assumed that we wouldn’t see any other Spartan with it, just why isn’t the armor available in multiplayer if it isn’t unique? Also has there been an explanation for why the GEN2 Centurion armor and John’s GEN2 Mark VI Mod look similar?
It was confirmed that at least the Cortanafied version of John’s Mark VI was based off a previous Mark IV that we haven’t seen.(Halo 4 Essential Visual Guide)
So its not out the question that the Materials Group thought to do a similar thing with a GEN2 set of Mark VI once John got back to Earth.
As some GEN2 suits have done is incorporate some previous armor designs and advances that was abandoned.
Its possible that while Centurion was being made on GEN1 it took some design inspirations from a previous build of Mark IV also(would explain the radical change from both GEN1 Centurion variants we see). Note this would of been done 1st in October 2552.
So if Centurion did take inspiration from a Mark IV armor, its possible Cortana probably used the same Mark IV design to nanobot Johns armor.
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> > > > > Ahh someone read all my edits on Halopedia. They took forever to do. Getting all the Mark VI variants sorted.(also did this for Mark IV and Mark V)
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> > > > > I can confirm the Mark VI Mod designation though for his Gen 2 Mark VI. It was confirmed in Halo 5s limited edition mission briefing.
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> > > > > Yes its different to his Cortanafied Mark VI. There is small changes to the armor. Not huge. But the visor and undersuit are different for example. There is other tiny changes. But they are the big ones.
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> > > > > So ultimately the armors are not exactly the same as suggested.
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> > > >
> > > > But is the Mark VI Mod unique? Or are there more? I’d assume Materials Group (or whatever UNSC branch supplied the armor) wouldn’t make just one. Also why the name ‘Mod’ at the end? I assume it mean modification but, really there couldn’t be a bit more appealing name for it?
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> > > Deffo Materials Group made it. An earlier canon fodder says its the Materials Group.(though the description is for the Normal Pure Gen2 variant)
> > >
> > > Though is it unique to John-117… I can not say. Unlikely it is unique but there is little chance we will see another spartan wear the armor just so we know John by seeing him.
> > >
> > > Remember people thought Nicole-458 in Dead or Alive 4 was John. Despite the Gender being different. All cause she wore Mark VI armor.
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> >
> > Well of course it was assumed that we wouldn’t see any other Spartan with it, just why isn’t the armor available in multiplayer if it isn’t unique? Also has there been an explanation for why the GEN2 Centurion armor and John’s GEN2 Mark VI Mod look similar?
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> It was confirmed that at least the Cortanafied version of John’s Mark VI was based off a previous Mark IV that we haven’t seen.(Halo 4 Essential Visual Guide)
> So its not out the question that the Materials Group thought to do a similar thing with a GEN2 set of Mark VI once John got back to Earth.
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> As some GEN2 suits have done is incorporate some previous armor designs and advances that was abandoned.
> Its possible that while Centurion was being made on GEN1 it took some design inspirations from a previous build of Mark IV also(would explain the radical change from both GEN1 Centurion variants we see). Note this would of been done 1st in October 2552.
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> So if Centurion did take inspiration from a Mark IV armor, its possible Cortana probably used the same Mark IV design to nanobot Johns armor.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the Mark IV variant Cortana based the armor off of he Mark IV seen in The Fall Of Reach animated series? The backs with the thrusters look similar as does the helmet. Was it ever specified how similar John’s Cortanafied armor and the Mark IV source were?
Also I think that’s probably a good explanation for Centurion’s look, both being based off of the same source.
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> Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the Mark IV variant Cortana based the armor off of he Mark IV seen in The Fall Of Reach animated series? The backs with the thrusters look similar as does the helmet. Was it ever specified how similar John’s Cortanafied armor and the Mark IV source were?
> Also I think that’s probably a good explanation for Centurion’s look, both being based off of the same source.
It would appear so. The Fall of Reach Mark IV is actually really interesting. It’s basic design is that of the Halo Wars Mark IV, but it incorporates some Centurion design, as well as Chief’s Halo 4/5 thrusters. It’s actually a really neat design, which would be cool if they could add it to multiplayer. All they need to do is mix and match parts from armor they already have in the game.
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> > > > > > Ahh someone read all my edits on Halopedia. They took forever to do. Getting all the Mark VI variants sorted.(also did this for Mark IV and Mark V)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can confirm the Mark VI Mod designation though for his Gen 2 Mark VI. It was confirmed in Halo 5s limited edition mission briefing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes its different to his Cortanafied Mark VI. There is small changes to the armor. Not huge. But the visor and undersuit are different for example. There is other tiny changes. But they are the big ones.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So ultimately the armors are not exactly the same as suggested.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But is the Mark VI Mod unique? Or are there more? I’d assume Materials Group (or whatever UNSC branch supplied the armor) wouldn’t make just one. Also why the name ‘Mod’ at the end? I assume it mean modification but, really there couldn’t be a bit more appealing name for it?
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> > > > Deffo Materials Group made it. An earlier canon fodder says its the Materials Group.(though the description is for the Normal Pure Gen2 variant)
> > > >
> > > > Though is it unique to John-117… I can not say. Unlikely it is unique but there is little chance we will see another spartan wear the armor just so we know John by seeing him.
> > > >
> > > > Remember people thought Nicole-458 in Dead or Alive 4 was John. Despite the Gender being different. All cause she wore Mark VI armor.
> > >
> > >
> > > Well of course it was assumed that we wouldn’t see any other Spartan with it, just why isn’t the armor available in multiplayer if it isn’t unique? Also has there been an explanation for why the GEN2 Centurion armor and John’s GEN2 Mark VI Mod look similar?
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> > It was confirmed that at least the Cortanafied version of John’s Mark VI was based off a previous Mark IV that we haven’t seen.(Halo 4 Essential Visual Guide)
> > So its not out the question that the Materials Group thought to do a similar thing with a GEN2 set of Mark VI once John got back to Earth.
> >
> > As some GEN2 suits have done is incorporate some previous armor designs and advances that was abandoned.
> > Its possible that while Centurion was being made on GEN1 it took some design inspirations from a previous build of Mark IV also(would explain the radical change from both GEN1 Centurion variants we see). Note this would of been done 1st in October 2552.
> >
> > So if Centurion did take inspiration from a Mark IV armor, its possible Cortana probably used the same Mark IV design to nanobot Johns armor.
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> Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the Mark IV variant Cortana based the armor off of he Mark IV seen in The Fall Of Reach animated series? The backs with the thrusters look similar as does the helmet. Was it ever specified how similar John’s Cortanafied armor and the Mark IV source were?
> Also I think that’s probably a good explanation for Centurion’s look, both being based off of the same source.
Only that it resembles an earlier line of Mark IV. Thats all. How early we simply dont know. There is 26 years worth of variants thats could of been used.
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> > > > > > > Ahh someone read all my edits on Halopedia. They took forever to do. Getting all the Mark VI variants sorted.(also did this for Mark IV and Mark V)
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> > > > > > > I can confirm the Mark VI Mod designation though for his Gen 2 Mark VI. It was confirmed in Halo 5s limited edition mission briefing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes its different to his Cortanafied Mark VI. There is small changes to the armor. Not huge. But the visor and undersuit are different for example. There is other tiny changes. But they are the big ones.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So ultimately the armors are not exactly the same as suggested.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But is the Mark VI Mod unique? Or are there more? I’d assume Materials Group (or whatever UNSC branch supplied the armor) wouldn’t make just one. Also why the name ‘Mod’ at the end? I assume it mean modification but, really there couldn’t be a bit more appealing name for it?
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> > > > >
> > > > > Deffo Materials Group made it. An earlier canon fodder says its the Materials Group.(though the description is for the Normal Pure Gen2 variant)
> > > > >
> > > > > Though is it unique to John-117… I can not say. Unlikely it is unique but there is little chance we will see another spartan wear the armor just so we know John by seeing him.
> > > > >
> > > > > Remember people thought Nicole-458 in Dead or Alive 4 was John. Despite the Gender being different. All cause she wore Mark VI armor.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well of course it was assumed that we wouldn’t see any other Spartan with it, just why isn’t the armor available in multiplayer if it isn’t unique? Also has there been an explanation for why the GEN2 Centurion armor and John’s GEN2 Mark VI Mod look similar?
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> > >
> > > It was confirmed that at least the Cortanafied version of John’s Mark VI was based off a previous Mark IV that we haven’t seen.(Halo 4 Essential Visual Guide)
> > > So its not out the question that the Materials Group thought to do a similar thing with a GEN2 set of Mark VI once John got back to Earth.
> > >
> > > As some GEN2 suits have done is incorporate some previous armor designs and advances that was abandoned.
> > > Its possible that while Centurion was being made on GEN1 it took some design inspirations from a previous build of Mark IV also(would explain the radical change from both GEN1 Centurion variants we see). Note this would of been done 1st in October 2552.
> > >
> > > So if Centurion did take inspiration from a Mark IV armor, its possible Cortana probably used the same Mark IV design to nanobot Johns armor.
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> >
> > Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the Mark IV variant Cortana based the armor off of he Mark IV seen in The Fall Of Reach animated series? The backs with the thrusters look similar as does the helmet. Was it ever specified how similar John’s Cortanafied armor and the Mark IV source were?
> > Also I think that’s probably a good explanation for Centurion’s look, both being based off of the same source.
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> Only that it resembles an earlier line of Mark IV. Thats all. How early we simply dont know. There is 26 years worth of variants thats could of been used.
Someone’s definitely going to have to ask about this in Canon Fodder, specifically why the Mark VI Mod and Centurion look so similar, what variant of Mark IV the Mark VI Mod was based on and if it’s unique to John.
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> His Cortana made version from Halo 4 to Halo Escalations was unique, we have no idea about the set he got after that and uses in Halo 5.
Well the it isnt in multiplayer so it must be unique analogy isnt really correct. Look at Halo 4. Where Majestic wore armor pieces we couldnt
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> It’s one of a kind, they just replicated it to be just like the damaged one
Again we don’t know that. It’s implied that it’s custom given the MOD designation of it, but the armor Master Chief has now is very similar to Fred’s Centurion variant, which was also based off of a Mark VI design. The description of John’s armor also states that it was manufactured by Materials Group, which mass produces mainline MJOLNIR variants. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is their mainline GEN2 variant, possibly an attempt to ,along with the Decimator variant, to make Mark VII technology relevant.
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> Again we don’t know that. It’s implied that it’s custom given the MOD designation of it, but the armor Master Chief has now is very similar to Fred’s Centurion variant, which was also based off of a Mark VI design. The description of John’s armor also states that it was manufactured by Materials Group, which mass produces mainline MJOLNIR variants. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is their mainline GEN2 variant, possibly an attempt to ,along with the Decimator variant, to make Mark VII technology relevant.
Actually, I can say there is other GEN2 Mark VI variants.
A hybrid model of GEN1 and GEN2 parts.(Halo 4 and Halo 5 multiplayer)
A pure GEN2 model.(Halo 5 multiplayer)
And the Mark VI MOD.(Halo 5 Campaign)We are not sure what one is mass produced the most. I would imagine in 2558 he pure GEN2 model is the one used the most.
