Wow,Today in ShottySnipers there was a -Yoink- teammate who betrayed me every life i got.I got tired of him and meleed him in the throat twice.He booted me and what pissed me off is that he killed me 7 times and i couldn’t boot.Please try and fix the system.
If I may quote from someone else…
> > This girl betrayed me like 5 times and not once did i get the option to boot her, the minute i betray her i get booted. Explain that to me please…and not to mention she was betraying multiple people on our team and they didn’t get the ban option.
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> 1. The betrayal booting system in Reach is horrendously, inexcusably broken. As someone above me said, it is known to track some sort of statistic across multiple matches, but nobody seems to know just what it’s tracking.
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> 2. The betrayal booting system actually is more likely to boot a retaliating player than it is to boot someone that betrays without provocation. Meaning it’s not just broken; it’s also incompetently designed.
As for fixing the quit ban, its a low priority and probably won’t happen, just simply quit if they are ruining your fun.
If I could pick one problem to magically fix with Reach, it’d be the betrayal booting system. Everything else at least had some rationale for being there: bloom, quit bans, bleedthrough, credit caps…
All of those things made at least some sense, in theory. The booting system, as it is now? Who knows what Bungie was thinking when they wrote whatever algorithm is behind it.
The betrayal booting system has no structure, is impossible to predict, and its current implementation can’t possibly be justified or rationalized by the playlist engineers as “fair.”
I can’t think of anything more ambiguous in Reach than the booting system.
You’re not alone, OP. Wish it would be fixed, but it probably won’t be.
Why do everyone want to fix the booting system? all 343i have to do is take off teamkilling and boom! problem solved!
Why do everyone want to fix the booting system? all 343i have to do is take off teamkilling and boom! problem solved!
I’m not sure, but even if it is possible, it isn’t likely to happen since 343 is focusing all of their time on Halo 4, so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time fixing Reach.
> Why do everyone want to fix the booting system? all 343i have to do is take off teamkilling and boom! problem solved!
No problem NOT solved
I can now save my teammate who is being assassinated with Rockets. I get a show-stopper and my team mate doesn’t die because now I can’t team kill. If in BTB I could run BOTH players through with my ghost and only kill my opponent
I can now rocketjump my teammate without fear of killing them, allowing camo players to reach spots unintended for them to reach
I can now drive my team’s warthog off the edge of a map and only get a suicide but not 2 betrayals.
This doesn’t fix the issue of me dropping my teammate’s shields as they run into an opponent
This doesn’t fix the issue of me firing shots at my weakened teammate (As it counts as the opponent’s kill if they haven’t regened, so not a teamkill)
Grenade spamming in CQC becomes worse as now I don’t have to worry about hurting my teammates. Explosions away!
I can now troll the team by grabbing our bomb and simply refusing to play. Since NOBODY on the team can kill me I can just sit there and laugh the entire time
Now if I’m playing BTB on the Spire, and my AFK increases our chances of getting the lower back spawn (Worst place to respawn PERIOD), I no longer am able to kill them in order to get a better spawn and have a chance. Now the team just keeps spawning in the worst place possible and significantly hinders our ability to mount a comeback, simply because I wasn’t allowed to kill the selfish AFK teammate.
My teammate can now drive around opponents in the Warthog and we have no way of stopping it. We may kill the gunner but the invincible driver merely picks up another one.
Problem solved?
Problems created!
> > Why do everyone want to fix the booting system? all 343i have to do is take off teamkilling and boom! problem solved!
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> No problem NOT solved
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> I can now save my teammate who is being assassinated with Rockets. I get a show-stopper and my team mate doesn’t die because now I can’t team kill. If in BTB I could run BOTH players through with my ghost and only kill my opponent
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> I can now rocketjump my teammate without fear of killing them, allowing camo players to reach spots unintended for them to reach
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> I can now drive my team’s warthog off the edge of a map and only get a suicide but not 2 betrayals.
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> This doesn’t fix the issue of me dropping my teammate’s shields as they run into an opponent
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> This doesn’t fix the issue of me firing shots at my weakened teammate (As it counts as the opponent’s kill if they haven’t regened, so not a teamkill)
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> Grenade spamming in CQC becomes worse as now I don’t have to worry about hurting my teammates. Explosions away!
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> I can now troll the team by grabbing our bomb and simply refusing to play. Since NOBODY on the team can kill me I can just sit there and laugh the entire time
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> Now if I’m playing BTB on the Spire, and my AFK increases our chances of getting the lower back spawn (Worst place to respawn PERIOD), I no longer am able to kill them in order to get a better spawn and have a chance. Now the team just keeps spawning in the worst place possible and significantly hinders our ability to mount a comeback, simply because I wasn’t allowed to kill the selfish AFK teammate.
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> My teammate can now drive around opponents in the Warthog and we have no way of stopping it. We may kill the gunner but the invincible driver merely picks up another one.
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> Problem solved?
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> Problems created!
Turning off friendly fire is certainly the fastest way to stop rampant betrayers, but it’s not necessarily the best way. Betrayals need to become a visible stat. Like K/D, this betrayal stat can be used to filter out the griefers for players that just want to play the game right. Once this stat reaches an unacceptable level, the matchmaking system would then pair that player with other betrayers, thus keeing them away from the decent players. Let them kill themselves and ruin each others games together. There should also be a “Vote to Kick” option that can be utilized to better assist this stat. If a teammate is messing with you, you simply select Vote to Kick out of the menu and provide a reason, whether it’s for betrayals, or AFK. The vote will be passed to all players in the lobby including the opposing team as to eliminate bias. You pay a fee to play Xbox Live. That fee you pay entitles you to have a fair opportunity to play said games. If a player wants to teamkill me just because I picked up a weapon or vehicle, that ruins my gaming experience. I hope something like this is enabled in Halo 4.
I know this much, if you betray someone it’s pretty much a 50% chance they will get the option to boot u, but a revenge betrayal will not result in a boot, at least never has for me and I’ve played some games. After that it’s pretty much 50% 50% on who will get the option to boot who, but betraying someone in adition, a boot is pretty certain, though that has actually happend to me a couple of times where i was betrayed like 4 or 5 times by the same person and i couldn’t boot them. I was thinking it was a glitch. It also helps to make sure you actually got betrayed and who actually betrayed you, so you can play by this stupid FF system.
Also, i really agree FF should be no more. I believe the positives would out weigh the negatives, as for being AFK, if you are AFK for 2 minutes you should automaticlly be booted from the game. None of the reasons listed would make me rage more the being betrayed by someone for whatever reason at the worst time possible. Yes get rid of FF so I can rocket my teammate thats getting assasinated. There of course should be some minor changes because of this, like yeah, the bomb thing comes to mind. something else that comes to mind is they sould have it so if you try and stick your teammate it doesn’t work because he could just be stuck and walk into a room and kill whoevers in there. you know just some little changes. I’m sure there a couple more to.