There are a lot of Sci fi universes,such as the Star Wars,StarCraft and Mass Effect Universe.
Most of the sci fi Universes still follow some kind of realism while Halo has a lot of overpowered races and characters such as The God-like Precursors,The Legendary Forerunners and the Invincible Flood.
So,is Halo Universe the most powerful Sci-Fi Universe or there are Universes that are more powerful than Halo?
Only when getting into precursors does halo really push power levels, even then most other universes have their own godlike beings.
Warhammer is generally just flat out superior in every regard, but that whole universe is meant to be crazy OP.
I might have said the Reapers from Mass Effect were on par with the Precursors, right up until the last 20 of Mass Effect 3.
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> I might have said the Reapers from Mass Effect were on par with the Precursors, right up until the last 20 of Mass Effect 3.
LMAO Reapers aren’t even on par with the Covenant
Precursors are very very very very very far above The Reapers power level
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> > I might have said the Reapers from Mass Effect were on par with the Precursors, right up until the last 20 of Mass Effect 3.
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> LMAO Reapers aren’t even on par with the Covenant
> Precursors are very very very very very far above The Reapers power level
Yeah, the Reapers were tough but they weren’t that tough. The Normandy isn’t a particularly powerful ship and even she finishes off Sovereign at the end of the first Mass Effect.
High end sci-fi are things like the Xeelee, the Culture, the Time Lords, the Downstreamers, which Halo doesn’t come close to imo. It’s probably in the middle.
I say yes. As Urbane Rocket said, Warhammer is meant to be OP and unrealistic. The Halo franchise is OP as well, but it is realistically OP since it has plenty of science behind it to justify its technology. IMO, Halo is the most realistic science fiction franchise out there. The only other science fiction franchises that could go head to head with the Halo franchise in all out warfare, would be The Star Trek Franchise and The Doctor Who Franchise. Star Trek solely because of the Continuum, and Doctor Who because of Daleks and Time Lords and time travel in general. Even the UNSC could hold their own against everything else in those two franchises. Theyre a lot more powerful than a lot would like to think. Obviously, the rules in terms of two universes fighting each other are:
- all characters, ships, planets, resources, artifacts, or locations that died or were destroyed come back to life or are repaired.
- all factions are at their most powerful state seen within the respective universe.
- all characters are at their most powerful/skilled state seen in the respective universe.
- there is no distinction between friend or foe within a respective universe. They are all allies to fight the other universe.
- The goal is to kill every last thing in the other universe and dominate it.
- Scientific upgrades to other factions are allowed within a respective universe.
- The other universe is allowed to use the others technology if need be.
As a run down of everything above that applies to Halo, this would mean that:
- The Precursor technology destroyed by the Halos come back, all 18 Halo rings come back, every Foreunner that died comes back, every Flood that died comes back, every Ancient Human that died comes back, etc. This applies to every ship that was destroyed as well. The Precursors themselves do not come back because they became the Flood, but the Flood, at their most powerful point, can basically do anything they were once able to do as Precursors.
- Factions in the Halo Universe would include: The Flood/Precursor technology, Forerunner Ecumene, Ancient Human/San’ Shyuum alliance, The Covenant, UNSC, and Insurrection. At the beginning of the fight, all are at their most advanced state seen in the Halo franchise.
- The Flood will not infect anything in the Halo universe and the Halo rings cannot kill anything related to Halo, etc.
- The Forerunners are allowed to grant the Covenant, UNSC, and the Ancient Human/San’ Shyuum Alliance tech upgrades, and vice versa, since Ancient Humanity had levels of technology more advanced than the Forerunners.
- If the Flood infects anything from the other universe, they gain the knowledge of those they infect and are able to use the others technology.
It all boils down to the fact that the Halo universe usually wins mostly because of The Flood/Precursors and the Halo Rings. But everyone else, like the Forerunners, UNSC, Covenant, and Ancient Humanity are able to hold themselves against most everything else. But, of course, while it is fun to argue who is more powerful, its all speculation and up to your own opinion and interpretation and how the battle plays out in your own head. But that does not mean you disregard the facts. Use the facts to your advantage however, but even with facts, there are always many possibilities and outcomes. I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
p1ay4OURFUN
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> High end sci-fi are things like the Xeelee, the Culture, the Time Lords, the Downstreamers, which Halo doesn’t come close to imo. It’s probably in the middle.
Never heard about The Xeelee and The Culture.
Some of the most powerful creatures of The Haloverse (Like The Precursors) are probably tough enough handle the Time Lords.
And don’t you think people usually tend to overestimate the Downstreamers? I know they are almost omnipotent (some people even think they are as powerful as the Beyonders from Marvel Comics Universe),but they aren’t indestructible,neither invincible…
Anyway…None of these Universes are impressive to me.The Precursors,The Flood or even (Maybe) The Forerunners should be powerful enough to handle most of these Universes…
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> I say yes. As Urbane Rocket said, Warhammer is meant to be OP and unrealistic. The Halo franchise is OP as well, but it is realistically OP since it has plenty of science behind it to justify its technology. IMO, Halo is the most realistic science fiction franchise out there. The only other science fiction franchises that could go head to head with the Halo franchise in all out warfare, would be The Star Trek Franchise and The Doctor Who Franchise. Star Trek solely because of the Continuum, and Doctor Who because of Daleks and Time Lords and time travel in general. Even the UNSC could hold their own against everything else in those two franchises. Theyre a lot more powerful than a lot would like to think. Obviously, the rules in terms of two universes fighting each other are:
> - all characters, ships, planets, resources, artifacts, or locations that died or were destroyed come back to life or are repaired.
> - all factions are at their most powerful state seen within the respective universe.
> - all characters are at their most powerful/skilled state seen in the respective universe.
> - there is no distinction between friend or foe within a respective universe. They are all allies to fight the other universe.
> - The goal is to kill every last thing in the other universe and dominate it.
> - Scientific upgrades to other factions are allowed within a respective universe.
> - The other universe is allowed to use the others technology if need be.
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> As a run down of everything above that applies to Halo, this would mean that:
> - The Precursor technology destroyed by the Halos come back, all 18 Halo rings come back, every Foreunner that died comes back, every Flood that died comes back, every Ancient Human that died comes back, etc. This applies to every ship that was destroyed as well. The Precursors themselves do not come back because they became the Flood, but the Flood, at their most powerful point, can basically do anything they were once able to do as Precursors.
> - Factions in the Halo Universe would include: The Flood/Precursor technology, Forerunner Ecumene, Ancient Human/San’ Shyuum alliance, The Covenant, UNSC, and Insurrection. At the beginning of the fight, all are at their most advanced state seen in the Halo franchise.
> - The Flood will not infect anything in the Halo universe and the Halo rings cannot kill anything related to Halo, etc.
> - The Forerunners are allowed to grant the Covenant, UNSC, and the Ancient Human/San’ Shyuum Alliance tech upgrades, and vice versa, since Ancient Humanity had levels of technology more advanced than the Forerunners.
> - If the Flood infects anything from the other universe, they gain the knowledge of those they infect and are able to use the others technology.
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> It all boils down to the fact that the Halo universe usually wins mostly because of The Flood/Precursors and the Halo Rings. But everyone else, like the Forerunners, UNSC, Covenant, and Ancient Humanity are able to hold themselves against most everything else. But, of course, while it is fun to argue who is more powerful, its all speculation and up to your own opinion and interpretation and how the battle plays out in your own head. But that does not mean you disregard the facts. Use the facts to your advantage however, but even with facts, there are always many possibilities and outcomes. I hope this helps!
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> Sincerely,
> p1ay4OURFUN
Thanks for your comment,it was really helpful 
Time lords can destroy the very fabric of existence. It took an entire armour of the most powerful warrior race to bring them on their knees.
If you can control time itself then you are far more advanced than the forerunners. If you can destroy reality then you are more advanced than the precursors.
Warhammer 40K overall loses to the Forerunners and Silentium Flood due to their FTL and sheer numbers with the exception of War in Heaven Necrons and the Chaos Gods who stalemate and stomp them respectively.
As for universes more powerful than the Halo verse, the Culture, Xeelee, and the Doctor Who universes (just to name a few) generally outclass Halo by a large margin along with comic factions from DC and Marvel.
The Culture would totally wreck the Halo universe…
but after Halo 5, looks like humanity is getting its AI overlords after all.
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> Never heard about The Xeelee and The Culture.
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> Some of the most powerful creatures of The Haloverse (Like The Precursors) are probably tough enough handle the Time Lords.
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> And don’t you think people usually tend to overestimate the Downstreamers? I know they are almost omnipotent (some people even think they are as powerful as the Beyonders from Marvel Comics Universe),but they aren’t indestructible,neither invincible…
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> Anyway…None of these Universes are impressive to me.The Precursors,The Flood or even (Maybe) The Forerunners should be powerful enough to handle most of these Universes…
I can only suggest reading up on the Xeelee and the Culture if you can find some stuff on google, like a wiki or something. I wouldn’t do them justice describing them. Certainly not the Xeelee, but perhaps the Forerunner could put up a fight against the Culture. The most striking thing about the Culture to me when reading one of the novels was how fast everything was. We’ve got AI’s in control of warships conducting entire naval battles in nanoseconds using weaponry that can pulverize planets, across distances measuring several light years. And then there’s the Gridfire and the Effectors. It’s mental. The Culture is also an entirely mobile civilization that can travel to at least the nearby galaxies; the closest it comes to basing itself anywhere are in the forms of massive ringworlds and other constructs. The Culture were a nightmare for the more traditional Idirans to fight because the Culture didn’t live on planets.
Something on the Xeelee: http://scifi.wikia.com/wiki/Xeelee. The Photino Birds too, which would eventually kill most lifeforms in Halo just by the mere fact of their existence.
I don’t know much about the Downstreamers, just what I read about them here: https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/what-technological-civilization-can-defeat-the-downstreamers.155834/.
The Time Lords can also control cause and effect. They can alter history by building a Paradox Machine. Nothing from Halo demonstrates an ability to counteract that.
The Forerunner and Precursors are pretty OP as well, but they are ultimately galactic powers. Most of these other civs are cosmological in extent.
Warhammer 40K takes that cake. Even the precursors are underpowered compared to some of the Chaos entities in that series.
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> Warhammer 40K overall loses to the Forerunners and Silentium Flood due to their FTL and sheer numbers with the exception of War in Heaven Necrons and the Chaos Gods who stalemate and stomp them respectively.
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> As for universes more powerful than the Halo verse, the Culture, Xeelee, and the Doctor Who universes (just to name a few) generally outclass Halo by a large margin along with comic factions from DC and Marvel.
Superheroes Universes aren’t listed as Sci-fi Universes,probably because they are totally ficctional and out of reallity,while some other ficctional universes such as Hunger Games,Halo or even Star Wars carry some kind of realism,since some of their creatures and actions could be explained by science.
So,based on what you guys are saying,these are the most powerful Sci-Fi Universes (Marvel and DC not listed because Superheros Universes aren’t listed as Sci-Fi Universes).
1 - Warhammer Universe
2 - The Xeelee Universe
3 - Doctor Who Universe
4 - The Culture Universe
5 - The Halo Universe
Is it correct or am I wrong?
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> So,based on what you guys are saying,these are the most powerful Sci-Fi Universes (Marvel and DC not listed because Superheros Universes aren’t listed as Sci-Fi Universes).
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> 1 - Warhammer Universe
> 2 - The Xeelee Universe
> 3 - Doctor Who Universe
> 4 - The Culture Universe
> 5 - The Halo Universe
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> Is it correct or am I wrong?
Doctor Who by a far margin, are at the top.
Next comes Xeelee
Culture (unless they go against Warhammers omnipotents)
Warhammer
Halo (Unless we are discussing forerunners and precursors)
Overall the placement varies on which race or civilization we are discussing specifically about, there are horribly crap races in Doctor Who, just like there are some in Warhammer. But when you include such factors like: Gods, supernatural beings, casual loop MAGIC!/SCIENCE! races, and temporal-advanced entities then the whole list can become a mess.
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> > So,based on what you guys are saying,these are the most powerful Sci-Fi Universes (Marvel and DC not listed because Superheros Universes aren’t listed as Sci-Fi Universes).
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> > 1 - Warhammer Universe
> > 2 - The Xeelee Universe
> > 3 - Doctor Who Universe
> > 4 - The Culture Universe
> > 5 - The Halo Universe
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> > Is it correct or am I wrong?
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> Doctor Who by a far margin, are at the top.
> Next comes Xeelee
> Culture (unless they go against Warhammers omnipotents)
> Warhammer
> Halo (Unless we are discussing forerunners and precursors)
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> Overall the placement varies on which race or civilization we are discussing specifically about, there are horribly crap races in Doctor Who, just like there are some in Warhammer. But when you include such factors like: Gods, supernatural beings, casual loop MAGIC!/SCIENCE! races, and temporal-advanced entities then the whole list can become a mess.
Well…Actually we are including everything this universe has or had to use against the other Universe (like Halo with the Precursors/Flood,Forerunners,Ancient Human,Covenant,UNSC and so on)
So yeah,every possible feat can be used to boost the Universe stats…
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> So,based on what you guys are saying,these are the most powerful Sci-Fi Universes (Marvel and DC not listed because Superheros Universes aren’t listed as Sci-Fi Universes).
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> 1 - Warhammer Universe
> 2 - The Xeelee Universe
> 3 - Doctor Who Universe
> 4 - The Culture Universe
> 5 - The Halo Universe
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> Is it correct or am I wrong?
Wrong actually.
It would go like this between those five when comparing everything.
1 - Doctor Who
2 - Xeelee
3 - Warhammer 40K (only because of the Chaos Gods)
4 - Culture
5 - Halo
Ok,I got it.Doctor Who is by far the most powerful Sci-Fi Universe…
And one last question…Is Halo really the 5th most powerful Sci-Fi Universe or there is some other universe that is more powerful than Haloverse? (like Star Wars,Star Trek,Stargate and so on)…