Is Halo MCC Population Slowing Down?

Just looked at Steam Charts is concerning for me regarding Halo MCC Activity.

Check it out for yourself and make your own determination!

Yep, because there is nothing new to mcc and what we have right now is a unbalanced matchmaking system, gamemodes which are barely playable from unfair balancing, and a terrible gamemode deciding machine and all we get are the same gamemodes over and over.

If they don’t do anything about their terrible ways of playing multiplayer then its not going to grow anytime soon

Because at the end of the day these are old games. Most old games don’t hold populations for very long. When it comes to gaming most want the latest and greatest. Not what was great like ten years ago. MCC probably would have a better population had the game been what it is now when it released as well. MCC just took way to long to develop into a proper game and most gave up on it. Very little has been done as far as I can see to draw players back.

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> Just looked at Steam Charts is concerning for me regarding Halo MCC Activity.
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> Check it out for yourself and make your own determination!

You have to remember that Steam charts aren’t capturing the whole MCC population as there’s still a huge number of players from the Xbox (both PC and console) ecosystem. Per True Achievements’ weekly gameplay chart MCC is still the 15th most played game there - ahead of things like Overwatch, Madden 21 (admittedly that may just be the Xbox One version) Sea of thieves, Gears 5.

MCC’s Steam population was always going to tail off once the collection was complete naturally as once people had played the stories many may not have been planning to stick around for the MP and indeed - as iconic as Halo’s MP is, it has dated and the nostalgia where applicable may have fallen off.

I’m not concerned: i think it’s natural.

Yeah nothing to be concerned about in my opinion, does suck maybe less people to shoot at.
Hope the toxic behavior of griefing players in matchmaking didn’t affect the numbers but who knows.

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> Because at the end of the day these are old games. Most old games don’t hold populations for very long. When it comes to gaming most want the latest and greatest. Not what was great like ten years ago. MCC probably would have a better population had the game been what it is now when it released as well. MCC just took way to long to develop into a proper game and most gave up on it. Very little has been done as far as I can see to draw players back.

Pretty cosmetics have proven not to hold the gamers interest past the oh cool new trinket stage , whereas new maps , playable content , balancing patches and general quality of life improvements always have been and always will be the key to holding and in some cases growing populations

Sure, but it’s not concerning because the steam numbers don’t include Xbox or the Windows Store and even after all these years the MCC is one of Xboxs most played games and with crossplay it means you won’t have to worry about finding a match for a very long time. Steam was never going to keep the 100k players, but I imagine it’ll keep steady at a few thousand for a very long time especially now with seasons giving an incentive to come back.

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> Yeah nothing to be concerned about in my opinion, does suck maybe less people to shoot at.
> Hope the toxic behavior of griefing players in matchmaking didn’t affect the numbers but who knows.

I hope your right my friend I really do. I would hate to think of all the hours I have put in to mod 14 CTF PC maps go to waste. So I hope we get some Dedi Server Software and the CGB. If not it would tick me off big time! I guess we will find out in Season 7 eh?

Well, we have been getting 3 Seasons of Halo 3 Content, maybe mix it up in the next few Season would bring back players in the long run. A Season that is not Halo 3 focused after 3 season of halo 3 content. New content like new remastered maps for Halo 2 Anniversary. A season dedicated to Halo 2 could bring back some players.

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> > Because at the end of the day these are old games. Most old games don’t hold populations for very long. When it comes to gaming most want the latest and greatest. Not what was great like ten years ago. MCC probably would have a better population had the game been what it is now when it released as well. MCC just took way to long to develop into a proper game and most gave up on it. Very little has been done as far as I can see to draw players back.
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> Pretty cosmetics have proven not to hold the gamers interest past the oh cool new trinket stage , whereas new maps , playable content , balancing patches and general quality of life improvements always have been and always will be the key to holding and in some cases growing populations

I have been saying for a while now they need to introduce balance patches to the games! and that we need more meat than bone content

  • That could be because multiple things like matchmaking is not balanced out, people quite to often and a lot of afk players. If 343i could address those problem along with others then more players will come back. - Also maybe mixing up the content that we have been receiving and not just Halo 3/Reach focus. Maybe a Halo CE Season to mix things up or a Halo 2 Season along with, Elites Customizations from Halo 2 Elite Campaign, new avatars, fixing Halo 2 hit registration, and New Remastered Maps for Halo 2 Anniversary to play on which would be new content.

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> > Yeah nothing to be concerned about in my opinion, does suck maybe less people to shoot at.
> > Hope the toxic behavior of griefing players in matchmaking didn’t affect the numbers but who knows.
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> I hope your right my friend I really do. I would hate to think of all the hours I have put in to mod 14 CTF PC maps go to waste. So I hope we get some Dedi Server Software and the CGB. If not it would tick me off big time! I guess we will find out in Season 7 eh?

Yeah, would love to see those maps too!
I can imagine dedicated server stuff come in on the last season, I don’t remember if there was supposed to be 9 or 10.

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> - That could be because multiple things like matchmaking is not balanced out, people quite to often and a lot of afk players. If 343i could address those problem along with others then more players will come back. - Also maybe mixing up the content that we have been receiving and not just Halo 3/Reach focus. Maybe a Halo CE Season to mix things up or a Halo 2 Season along with, Elites Customizations from Halo 2 Elite Campaign, new avatars, fixing Halo 2 hit registration, and New Remastered Maps for Halo 2 Anniversary to play on which would be new content.

Need new maps on H2A so bad, that game is subpar to all the others on MCC right now.

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> - That could be because multiple things like matchmaking is not balanced out, people quite to often and a lot of afk players. If 343i could address those problem along with others then more players will come back.

It amazes me how a game developer cannot seem to fix this AFK issue lol. Most of the games I have ever hosted on my dedicated servers have a Timeout Setting.
Even Halo Combat Evolved had a idle timeout setting. Example: idletimeout =300 (seconds ) ( Which means that if a afker has not moved in 5 mins. the server will automatically kick the user for being Idle for 5 mins ) It ain’t rocket science people!

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> > - That could be because multiple things like matchmaking is not balanced out, people quite to often and a lot of afk players. If 343i could address those problem along with others then more players will come back. - Also maybe mixing up the content that we have been receiving and not just Halo 3/Reach focus. Maybe a Halo CE Season to mix things up or a Halo 2 Season along with, Elites Customizations from Halo 2 Elite Campaign, new avatars, fixing Halo 2 hit registration, and New Remastered Maps for Halo 2 Anniversary to play on which would be new content.
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> Need new maps on H2A so bad, that game is subpar to all the others on MCC right now.

I agree with new maps for Halo 2 Anniversary, I would really like to see all of them remastered to make sure that everybody gets to play on their favorite maps. Halo 2 Anniversary and Halo 2 Classic still need their dedicated season. But new remastered maps would be just fine.

I haven’t really thought about it but we really didn’t get a Halo 2 season did we, I have a hunch we got visors or something but I’ll have to check when I login again.
New maps, and I mean either completely remastered would revitalize that game and retain the population.

At least 15 new maps off the forge variants and maybe 5 developer made maps would be amazing. With all the outsourcing 343 does it shouldn’t be too difficult to get that done either.

Imma be honest, 343 milking the hell out of the br, magnum, and dmr with headshot mechanics with making the silenced pistol in halo 3 the halo ce Magnum is getting stale, we have been getting the same thing a lot. Its just halo ce gun design over and over lately, make the primary starting weapon obsolete and make the main focus on the headshot feature of the secondary. What fun game have you played that regularly gets update does the same thing that theyve done before? Not a single game, which is why they need to balance it and start putting focus on other weapons but not putting it only on them, i wanna use other weapons like the mauler because its cool, and finally fix the damn problem of making dua wielding useless. I wanna be encouraged to mix and match but not stick with the samething for every map, every gamemode, and every game!

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> Imma be honest, 343 milking the hell out of the br, magnum, and dmr with headshot mechanics with making the silenced pistol in halo 3 the halo ce Magnum is getting stale, we have been getting the same thing a lot. Its just halo ce gun design over and over lately, make the primary starting weapon obsolete and make the main focus on the headshot feature of the secondary. What fun game have you played that regularly gets update does the same thing that theyve done before? Not a single game, which is why they need to balance it and start putting focus on other weapons but not putting it only on them, i wanna use other weapons like the mauler because its cool, and finally fix the damn problem of making dua wielding useless. I wanna be encouraged to mix and match but not stick with the samething for every map, every gamemode, and every game!

That is why on my custom game server ( CTF Only ) I give every weapon that is in the map to both teams! EVERY WEAPON!. Why? cuz I believe everyone should use the weapon they like to use or at least try all the weapons in the map. In most maps that I mod I would say that is around 14 to 16 weapons to choose from that I put on each team.
The starting weapons in most map that I have modded the Depending on the map! Are The Assault Rifle and the Rocket Launcher!

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> > 2535427517186887;11:
> > - That could be because multiple things like matchmaking is not balanced out, people quite to often and a lot of afk players. If 343i could address those problem along with others then more players will come back.
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> It amazes me how a game developer cannot seem to fix this AFK issue lol. Most of the games I have ever hosted on my dedicated servers have a Timeout Setting.
> Even Halo Combat Evolved had a idle timeout setting. Example: idletimeout =300 (seconds ) ( Which means that if a afker has not moved in 5 mins. the server will automatically kick the user for being Idle for 5 mins ) It ain’t rocket science people!

The thing is, you can get past a system like that by just putting a rubber band on your control sticks. Your character moves around and the game thinks you’re playing, when in fact you’re just running in a circle looking up. Unless the system is context-sensitive enough (we’re still a ways away from a reliable system like that) it’s just not going to be sufficient.

Not sure. Based on the chart it just looks like it’s trying to balance out. I just wish 343I were more supportive of the game like more double exp events since that would help with population plus the long wait times is probably putting people off playing.