Is Halo 5 the worst Halo?

I love Halo 5 but im not sure if its as good as the rest of the Halos.
I think Halo 5 has one of the best multiplayers but I enjoyed all of the other Halo Campaigns more than this one.
Now before you comment saying that I am an A**hole for saying this but this is my opinion!

I think the best multiplayer is halo 3, in terms of how fun it is/skill. Also think Halo 3 had the last good story the rest have kind of been a mess and 4 and 5 are kind of sloppy but I think halo 5 multiplayer is a close second to halo 3, maybe tied with reach or halo 2. So in terms of multiplayer its near the top of my list, in terms of story its at the bottom lol.

Best Multiplayer since 2 in my opinion. I personally would rather play 5 than any of the others now.

All of my friends who’ve played Halo religiously with me since CE dropped the game in a month or less and have sworn to never pre-order another halo game. That saddens me and tells me something at the same time.

As for my experience, 4v4 arena and forge are awesome, but the campaign, BTB, and theater have all suffered greatly.

“Worst” would imply one felt that Halo 4 - where you could spawn with Active Camo + Instakill Boltshot in an ‘Arena’ mode - was actually better.

At the end of the day it’s all opinion anyway. Halo 5’s still running strong after about a year whereas Halo 4’s population was almost a graveyard after just a few months. Halo 3 and 5 have been my favorite MP experiences thus far, but Halo 5 DEFINITELY without any doubt had the lamest campaign (Actually the gameplay was pretty fun, but that story oh man…)

God no! I think overall, Reach is by far the worst. That game just looked and played like sludge. Halo 5 has my favourite MP, and Halo 4 and possibly ODST are tied for my favourite SP. Hopefully 343i can make Halo 6 a good middle ground!

for me multiplayer: Halo 3, 5, 2, 4, reach. didn’t really play ce multiplayer so can’t list. It’s hard to place halo 2 because it revolutionised online multiplayer when it came out there was nothing close to it as the time. The golden era of xbl when everyone had a mic and talked and xbox was a social experience. 3 & 5 have better gameplay i think.

campaign: Halo 2, CE, 3, 5…4. Can’t really remember reach campaign. Halo’s campaigns have gotten way too complicated and confusing in the last 2 games. For people who only follow the story when each game comes out it requires far too much background knowledge to follow.

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> God no! I think overall, Reach is by far the worst. That game just looked and played like sludge. Halo 5 has my favourite MP, and Halo 4 and possibly ODST are tied for my favourite SP. Hopefully 343i can make Halo 6 a good middle ground!

How? Almost everything done in Reach is better than 5, no argument. While multiplayer is subjective, Halo Reach overall did better, only Halo 5’s forge and ranking is an improvement. But those don’t carry a game. You can hate Reach, but it pretty much does much better than Halo 5 in every area, Halo 4 too. Even improved things done in Halo 3.

But getting back on topic, yes it is the worse in the series. Bugs plaque the game. Micro transactions are shoved at us with no remorse. Multiplayer focuses on being competitive rather than fun. there is a lack of game modes compared to the past 3 games, and game types are virtually nonexistent. Content browser aka File browser came almost a year after launch and is pretty broken although usable and awesome. Customization has been pushed back to pre-Halo 3. Community is extremely toxic. Machinima is lying near its death bed. Features are at their lowest. Campaign was trash or at the best, worst in the series. UI is pretty basic and is leagues below 4 and Reach. A year after launch and theater is still broken. This game is living off of forge, the games only saving grace.

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> for me multiplayer: Halo 3, 5, 2, 4, reach. didn’t really play ce multiplayer so can’t list. It’s hard to place halo 2 because it revolutionised online multiplayer when it came out there was nothing close to it as the time. The golden era of xbl when everyone had a mic and talked and xbox was a social experience. 3 & 5 have better gameplay i think.
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> campaign: Halo 2, CE, 3, 5…4. Can’t really remember reach campaign. Halo’s campaigns have gotten way too complicated and confusing in the last 2 games. For people who only follow the story when each game comes out it requires far too much background knowledge to follow.

But I knew nothing and understood what was going on, just requires a bit more thought. Though Halo 5 had a pretty bad story.

I feel halo 5 sucks because it’s whole idea was basicly from the meta of halo 4 when every body had quit playing the game.

ie every one that was still playing the game was just using thruster packs and nothing more. Every one else who played the game that wasn’t part of the ideology of no Spartan abilities or equipment in halo wasn’t taking into consideration. Basing the next game solely on what the dead population wanted in a halo game. Basicly making halo 5 the Frankenstein monster of halos.

The worst? No, I don’t think so. But it is definitely the most disappointing. After all of the lies they told us, all the misinformation about the story, the absolutely terrible story, and the utter lack of content, it just feels like it’s a huge waste of great potential. After Halo 4, Halo 5 was sold to us as being Halo’s redemption, a true return to real Halo. We all believed that we would get an incredible story and fantastic, content-filled multiplayer, but all we were given was a husk. Halo 5 could have been incredible. No, it SHOULD have been incredible. But for whatever reason, be it the unqualified/terrible lead writer, or decisions made by Microsoft, or even if it’s ineptitude of 343i itself, Halo 5 just isn’t what it should have been. Don’t get me wrong, I have enjoyed playing the multiplayer of Halo 5, but it leaves me with the feeling of wanting more. It’s not completely satisfactory, despite being fun.

Sadly, the fact that, for the third time in a row, we get a Halo product that fails to deliver, I think I’m going to be done with the franchise (after Halo Wars 2). I can forgive 343i for Halo 4, since it was their first game. I was able to forgive them for the Master Chief Collection, because despite its issues, it was clear that it was rushed. However, the fact that it did launch as being completely broken took away a lot of faith that I had in 343i. Halo 5 was the breaking point. Halo 5 showed to us that, even after three tries, 343 Industries was not able to give us a satisfying product. In my eyes, I don’t think they deserve another chance, and they will have to work hard to prove me otherwise.

On top of that, the attitude of 343i’s employees has been despicable at best, From Frankie insulting us because we didn’t enjoy the story to other employees on Reddit telling us that they’re not sorry for the mistakes they’ve made, even going as far as calling us “entitled” for expecting a game that works and is completed at release, their attitude leaves a sour taste in my mouth. And do I really need to mention all of the lies they told us about Halo 4 and Halo 5 before release? If the guys and gals at the company are going to insult their fanbase, they don’t deserve our support and money. I’m sure that many of the employees at 343i are fantastic people, but the face of the company is total crap. There needs to be some big changes, and fast, otherwise I’m sure this successful franchise won’t be flourishing much longer.

Halo 5’s MP was ok/sub-par at best. I enjoy it, but there’s always room for more potential, which, as others have said, was a missed opportunity. Campaign was pretty much a joke, and a cliff hanger for H6 if anything. Sure, it allows them to build up the story even better, but that’s all it did. Forge is where it obviously shined, and it shows.

Halo 4 though, that one was the worst. It was anything but competitive and was pretty campy. Campaign was decent, but I feel that they focused on that and spartan ops a bit too much.

As for reach… well… best MP and campaign out there. I plan on buying the digital copy for Xb1 when I get the chance… maybe download the DLC with it if I don’t have to pay for it again :stuck_out_tongue:

Yes, it truly is. And I say that with the knowledge that Microsoft had 343 bent over a table in a semi-nelson after the desert cloaked Chief trailer and rewrote what was meant to be Halo 5’s ODST-esque prequel into Halo 5 itself whilst bringing Cortana back from the dead just so those suits could push the Cortana mobile assistant feature on Windows Phones. As for the multiplayer, just take a hatchet to all the game modes currently ready to go and ship so more focus will be put into Warzone so the cha-ching can be raked in through REQ’s whilst copying trends that every other FPS franchise is doing nowadays whilst straying even further from Halo Traditions and insult any of the fans who speak out against this.
And I get it, 343 can’t tell the Microsoft markeing commitee to get to buggery or else they’ll be eliminated, only the profits brought in via the Halo franchise can do that. Given Frankie has flat out stated that current Returns are holding back a Halo 3 Anniversary, I’m hoping that he’s trying to say on the down low that Microsoft finally realized they dun goofed by trying have their suits make Halo themselves.

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> > God no! I think overall, Reach is by far the worst. That game just looked and played like sludge. Halo 5 has my favourite MP, and Halo 4 and possibly ODST are tied for my favourite SP. Hopefully 343i can make Halo 6 a good middle ground!
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> How? Almost everything done in Reach is better than 5, no argument. While multiplayer is subjective, Halo Reach overall did better, only Halo 5’s forge and ranking is an improvement. But those don’t carry a game. You can hate Reach, but it pretty much does much better than Halo 5 in every area, Halo 4 too. Even improved things done in Halo 3.
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> But getting back on topic, yes it is the worse in the series. Bugs plaque the game. Micro transactions are shoved at us with no remorse. Multiplayer focuses on being competitive rather than fun. there is a lack of game modes compared to the past 3 games, and game types are virtually nonexistent. Content browser aka File browser came almost a year after launch and is pretty broken although usable and awesome. Customization has been pushed back to pre-Halo 3. Community is extremely toxic. Machinima is lying near its death bed. Features are at their lowest. Campaign was trash or at the best, worst in the series. UI is pretty basic and is leagues below 4 and Reach. A year after launch and theater is still broken. This game is living off of forge, the games only saving grace.

I couldn’t disagree more. It feels more unbalanced, the weapons are all ugly as sin, the frame rate was diabolical, it looked fuzzy as hell, the vehicles were sluggish and overpowered, awful, just awful ui apart from lobbies. I could go on but the list is literally endless.

Halo 5 is the best multiplayer since Halo 3. The campaign was bad though… not enough Chief.

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> do I really need to mention all of the lies they told us about Halo 4 and Halo 5 before release?

What were the lies about Halo 4? I ask hoping I’ve only forgotten due to the shock of Halo 5.

Halo 4 was easily my least favourite Halo. I hold Halo 5 is high regard actually.

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> > do I really need to mention all of the lies they told us about Halo 4 and Halo 5 before release?
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> What were the lies about Halo 4? I ask hoping I’ve only forgotten due to the shock of Halo 5.

“We’re bringing Halo back to its roots with Halo 4”
“Trust us”
“We have full support from the pros who love our game”
“There will be a classic playlist at launch”
“The Didact will be instrumental in post-Halo 4 fiction”
“Cortana is dead”

Those last two were post-Halo 4, sure. But still… Granted, it’s not as many lies as Halo 5, but that’s another thing that makes Halo 5 so disappointing compared to it.

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> > > God no! I think overall, Reach is by far the worst. That game just looked and played like sludge. Halo 5 has my favourite MP, and Halo 4 and possibly ODST are tied for my favourite SP. Hopefully 343i can make Halo 6 a good middle ground!
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> > How? Almost everything done in Reach is better than 5, no argument. While multiplayer is subjective, Halo Reach overall did better, only Halo 5’s forge and ranking is an improvement. But those don’t carry a game. You can hate Reach, but it pretty much does much better than Halo 5 in every area, Halo 4 too. Even improved things done in Halo 3.
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> > But getting back on topic, yes it is the worse in the series. Bugs plaque the game. Micro transactions are shoved at us with no remorse. Multiplayer focuses on being competitive rather than fun. there is a lack of game modes compared to the past 3 games, and game types are virtually nonexistent. Content browser aka File browser came almost a year after launch and is pretty broken although usable and awesome. Customization has been pushed back to pre-Halo 3. Community is extremely toxic. Machinima is lying near its death bed. Features are at their lowest. Campaign was trash or at the best, worst in the series. UI is pretty basic and is leagues below 4 and Reach. A year after launch and theater is still broken. This game is living off of forge, the games only saving grace.
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> I couldn’t disagree more. It feels more unbalanced, the weapons are all ugly as sin, the frame rate was diabolical, it looked fuzzy as hell, the vehicles were sluggish and overpowered, awful, just awful ui apart from lobbies. I could go on but the list is literally endless.

It was less balanced, but more factors came into play that made balancing hard, not to say that its balance didn’t work. Also, ugly? Well thats your opinion so I’ll leave it to you, although the weapons looks haven’t changed all that much with time. For frame rate, did you play Reach on Xbox one a few months ago? Cause it had the same frame rate as every other Halo on 360, so I can’t really see what was the frame rates problem. Fuzzy? I think you may have needed glasses or your connection was bad cause thats kinda strange. Sluggish and overpowered? lol wut? With the inclusion of vehicles they were pretty well balanced, and I think performed best in the series, weren’t as heavy hardcore as CE-3 but also weren’t paper like 4-5. They also traveled at good speeds and made you feel like you were actually going fast as you should in the vehicle. How was the UI awful? It was not only easy to use, but gave you more things to work with than Halo 5. If you think Halo Reach’s UI is bad than you must be absolutely disgusted with Halo 5’s. Please do go on, I’d like to see this so called endless reasons.

People liked Reach’s multiplayer?

Reach really turned me off Halo, and Halo 4 failed to re-grab my interest. H5 had a disappointing campaign, but -Yoink!-, I do love its Arena.