Is Halo: 5 the worst Halo?

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> > I ask for evidence and you give me a single man’s opinion and for all i know that man is you, nice one. I’ll shut up anyways, there’s no point in continuing an arguement I’ve already won, bubye. :slight_smile:
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> You wanted evidence that I wasn’t the only one saying it. I gave it to you. I’ll take that as admitting to defeat. Not a graceful loss, but when you grow up you’ll take a step out of your bubble and see that there is much more out there to know and learn about. You’re still young, so you’ll be wrong a lot in life, but it’s how you handle it that will determine where you end up.

Eating popcorn intensifies.

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> > Every new Halo is considered the worst Halo. Every game we get these kinds of comments.
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> Reach and Halo 4 are still considered bad games years after the fact. Why do you think it will be different this time?

Personally Halo Reach and Halo 4 were good. Halo 5 is alright.
I can’t stand people who are being butt hurt over how a game is designed and plays out if you don’t like it then don’t play and stop crying over it. That is why own one COD came and that is Modern Warfare 2 the others I will own.

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> > Reach was the biggest turd of a Halo. I can’t even begin to explain the anger that swells inside me after playing Halo 3 to see Bungie present this complete garbage with bloom, jetpacks, armor lock, and completely awful movement speed.
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Because you aren’t good. I know all the morons loved Reach.

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> > > Every new Halo is considered the worst Halo. Every game we get these kinds of comments.
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> Personally Halo Reach and Halo 4 were good. Halo 5 is alright.
> I can’t stand people who are being butt hurt over how a game is designed and plays out if you don’t like it then don’t play and stop crying over it. That is why own one COD came and that is Modern Warfare 2 the others I will own.

I guess we can’t all understand the concept of criticism.

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> Halo 5 is just different not worse

Yeah no it’s different AND worse

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> > > > > In my opinion Halo: 5 is the worst halo ever made, and personally I am offended by it. To me I feel 343 does not care about the Halo universe the way Bungie did. Halo: 5 has less armor customization ability than Halo: 3. What I mean by that is you can only change the entire armor set (legs, shoulders, chest all together) and the helmet. Yes, you can change the visor but big deal. Halo: 3 allowed you to change both shoulders, chest, and helmet. Don’t get me started on Halo: Reach (halo customization heaven). Yes, Halo: 5 has a lot of armor to choose from (and I mean a lot) however, most of it is recycled garbage. 343 seems to have shown no effort or creativity with the armor.
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> > > > > The campaign in my opinion was utter -Yoink-; it was too short and ended terribly, and let’s not forget the fact that the previews for Halo: 5 were NO WHERE near accurate to the campaign. I feel 343 is just trying to get as much money as possible, something that can be seen with the new REQ system which allows you to buy the packs, making unlocking new armor pointless, and not even a challenge. I cannot begin to express how frustrated and down right upset the lack of effort that was put into this game makes me.
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> > > > > I feel Halo: 5 was a giant middle finger to the Halo community and we all sat on it. There’s so much more that is just terrible about this game, and you all know what those things are. We all have our own opinions. Some of the things I hate you may love. I do love some features of Halo: 5 but, they aren’t enough to save it for me. I want to hear what you think. What’s your opinion on the game?
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> > > > The 343 fan boys need not even read your post to be confronted with the absolute HARD FACTS which is Halo 5 is an utter failure in terms of player retention.
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> > > > Facts are Facts boys and girls and you CANNOT argue them (although the knuckle heads will try their very hardest…& we all know who they are).
> > > > Halo 5 limped up to 9th place when the MoR update rolled out. 2 days later…TWO FLIP’N DAYS LATER it dropped out of the top 10 AGAIN! Ya know what that means??? It means no one is impressed nor wants to continue to play this PoS game. I get faster matches in Halo REACH with just 130 players playing in a certain game type (at the time there was a total population of ~ 9000 players). Chew on that for a while :wink:
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> > > > That is pretty damn sad. Currently it is in 13th place. Too bad we can’t place a LMFAO emogee cause that’s what this excuse of a game needs.
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> > > lololol, people really care about top 10 soo much on this forum, they can’t enjoy a game, unless it is in the top 10? i get a lot of garbage for my opinions, but you HAVE to be trolling because you sound like a six year old right now.
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> > You’re completely missing the point. The point is people made their own choice to stop playing due to lack of interest, the top 10 is just to point out that people are lying about Halo 5 being the best or most popular Halo in the series. It really does sound like you can’t accept the facts by making assumptions to provoke responses. It’s one of the worst selling Halo games in the franchise…that speaks volumes over anything involving top 10 since right now less people are buying the game, less people are playing Halo 5 than any previous Halo game.
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> i did not, “miss the point”. there are literally hundreds of games on the xbox marketplace, why would top 10 matter to your, personal enjoyment level? oh we are talking about the “masses”? again, there is over a hundred games, the fact that, halo is anywhere near, let alone IN the “top ten” is a sentiment that it is very much so still very popular. this “hurdur not in the top 10? game is dead” mindset people in this forum is absolutely childish. as halo, not being in the top ten effects nothing but pretentious ego’s of the playbase it self, the way the person i replied to spoke, was very much in a crying fashion. the fact is, halo is “failing” is because of the very fanbase that swears it wants to “save” it. crying over something as trivial as my precious halo isn’t as popular as it was TEN years ago?? must be time to jump ship. is counter productive to say the least is it now?
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The top 10 matters because it’s one of many factors, Halo 5 isn’t even in the top 10, the fact is it show’s further that Halo can’t hold any place long enough, that a majority of people are slowly loosing interest. Anywhere near top 10 is one thing but we’re talking about the decline of Halo’s popularity, nothing about Halo being dead…not sure where you’re getting that assumption from since once again you’re making assumptions about the player-base that you know nothing about. The fact your trying to provoke members isn’t really helping your case either.

You can’t expect fans to enjoy anything 343i dishes out just because they call it Halo. Nobody mentioned anything about jumping ship, if your going to be about anyone then it should be at 343i since it’s their job to focus on quality control…and regardless of my opinion of the game…343i clearly have no met that target with a majority of gamers. The difference is between many of us and you is we’re actually willing to give ‘constructive feedback’ instead of just complaining about people complaining just because not everyone agrees with you.

Sure the only right thing you say so far is yes Halo isn’t as popular as it once was and there’s no reason why it couldn’t become as popular again. Plenty of game developers have rocky IP’s and yet plenty of games eventually try to appeal to the fans like how company’s are by listening to the fans with things like Gears 4, Battlefield 1, Resident Evil 2 remake.

Anyone remember when people said Halo 2 was the worst Halo?

In some ways I agree with you caboose, but in some I disagree. To start, I too am very mad that the campaign was nothing like the trailers and teasers, how ever I feel like the customization is ok. It feel that even though you can only equip armor, helmets, and visors there is something for everyone, but I can agree that there’s definitely a better game for customization. I love the halo 5 forge, there is some much you can with it. Going back to story and universe, I think because 343 is somewhat new to halo they can’t yet make a good intriguing story that makes since universe wise. So over all I feel that halo 5 is not the worst halo game, I don’t know if there is a “bad” halo game, but I can see why you are mad about it.

Well it’s fun but the last two I’ve played I put to boosts on and when the game ends it say attention and my boost is gone and I get no rp

the problems I have with this game are definitely the req system as it seems to mess up all the time and can ruin a game of warzone for yourself,packs are a good idea as I like opening things and collecting stuff but I feel like the armour and helmets you should earn certain ones for certain things and so on,make it feel like an accomplishment,there should be daily and weekly challenges for example get 25kills with an assault rifle and you earn req points for doing them,the campaign I don’t get people moaning,I like fire team Osiris,yea master chief and blue team are awesome but It’s like the campaign can only be good with master chief but that is not the case at all,Spartan Locke is awesome,Buck is funny,not that big of a fan on the two women,reach and odst campaigns were awesome and they didn’t have master chief just saying :smiley:

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> Anyone remember when people said Halo 2 was the worst Halo?

What? People said that? Madness.

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> Anyone remember when people said Halo 2 was the worst Halo?

From before it launch to after Halo 3 launched. Ever since Reach, Halo 2 was put on a golden pedestal.

Halo 5 is different. Even the community is severely divided on it. With halo 2 it was just a vocal minority.

No unfortuinatly I believe that halo 4 was the worst halo. in all but one way… i did enjoy the armor customization

Halo 5 is one of my favorite Halo games of all time.

I personally, think halo 5 is great. The campaign trailers were misleading, but I think that that was the original story and it was changed. By the way, the campaign for halo 5 was probably based on, and is very similar to, a scrapped halo ce plot.

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> No unfortuinatly I believe that halo 4 was the worst halo. in all but one way… i did enjoy the armor customization

I agree, halo 4 was the worst

Honestly in my opinion, Halo 4 was the worst halo game of them all.

No, Halo 4 was.

Halo 5 isn’t the worst halo and you want to know why? Because we get free DLC’s and all the other games are paid, look at Destiny and Cod. They both are made by Activision and they don’t care about the games and just want money. Now who do you think is more hungry for money, Avtivision, who makes games with Cod every year and now dying franchise. Or, 343 who make Halo games at least 3 years of time and listen to their community.

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Back when Halo Ce and Halo 2 were the only two games, and I’d agree with that sentiment if those are the only two games being compared.