First and foremost, I love the game. Sure, there are bugs that need to be worked out and some tuning that needs to be done with the battle pass and XP but overall the foundation they have built with this game is undeniably incredible.
The issue myself and everyone I have been playing with, including randoms in team chat, is how the game is awesome but just not fun. It’s truly not a fault of the game itself, it’s the systems going on behind the scenes. The SBMM feels so incredibly advanced at this point that you are essentially playing yourself which causes you to hover around a 0 K/D and tie games more frequently than should ever happen.
When every match feels this sweaty there’s no room for experimentation or just dumb fun. Are the days of being able to have your squad do random fun things within matches just gone because every match you’re essentially going against yourself at your best?
Don’t get me wrong, Halo should always have that gritty competitive side, but it used to be able to walk the line between competition and fun where other shooters couldn’t. It’s not about “getting good”, you shouldn’t have to play at 100% of your ability to simply play the game. Simply being dominant and able to win isn’t the same thing as being able to have fun with the game.
Is anyone else feeling this way? Surely this cannot be the intention behind the current SBMM system. It’s exhausting and I just feel like it will ultimately push players away and we’ll be in the same low population boat we’ve been in with the last few releases, and I don’t want that to happen.
The game is great, but yes, i think is less “fun” and for me is the lack of physics including player collisions (even FF). Casual play feels like a ranked match. Like you said there is no room for experimentation or just playing with the environment. The random situations make the game feel more enjoyable and fun.
“Is “fun” Halo dead?” NOPE. There out a lot of things that need fixing, but it is really fun and good looking. It is a bit sweaty, but that seems just how it is these days. When we can play with co-op/split screen and have forge available, I think it will get a lot better.
With a lot of new players, I’m not sure where you’re getting the whole, “essentially playing yourself” thing. I do really good in Halo Infinite on Xbox One, with me usually being the top guy on my team or caring my horrible new teammates to a win (usually…only so much you can do these days), and I don’t think I’ve ever had a tie game yet.
there is no custom made modes to search and play online, who knows what dark corner of some discords you have to crawl to play 1 match, instead an actual public MM system
I know how Halo works and plays…I’ve been playing it religiously since Halo 2 so check my stats. This version of the matchmaking feels entirely different than what’s came before.
Also, as I said, Halo is competitive and should be. I was Onyx in Halo 5 so I get that side of it completely; but it’s a shooter that’s been able to be more than just the overly competitive scene and right now it doesn’t have that other aspect that sets it apart for what’s really the majority of players out there.
Also no one was comparing CoD to Halo so that argument is moot. They shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath in my opinion. Halo is king and I simply want to see it thrive.
If you know how HALO works and you was ONYX. Then you should never make a post asking for make the game more CASUAL. that “smells” you are getting rusty.
A real fan of HALO will never but never will ask for make the game less mechanical skill intensive
I quoute for the second time. You are “complaining” cuz the game is too sweaty so yeah is kinda hard to believe. “You was onxy” and now is asking for make the game more easy? Lol
If you focus solely on challenges or unlocking tiers in battlepass, you automatically leave fun out of the gameplay. After playing Halo Infinite both alone and with a large group of friends, i can say that fun in Halo is not dead. I enjoying finding creative ways to kill enemies in the matches, such as getting a grapple hook, a fusion coil, and swinging like spiderman to find a poor soul who will witness a fusion coil be thrown at them from above. After playing both 4v4 and BTB, I have undoubtedly had more fun in BTB as there is more to do and is much more chaotic with the weapon spawns and other pick ups on the maps. While in 4v4, i have found alot more sweaty players and leavers who rage quit because they are losing, so i avoid playing 4v4 and choose to play more BTB as i enjoy it more.
If questioning my Halo fandom makes you feel better you do you. However don’t try to craft, or start, an argument by implying things I am saying. I do not want the gameplay altered to require less skill in any way. I just feel the SBMM belongs in Ranked play and not social; it’s as simple as that.
With that said, let’s use your logic and say I am “getting rusty”; it’s certainly possible after all. That would imply I am bad at the game. Being bad or not simply getting the W and going +10 every game means I should just go play something else and not play the game right? You think that’s what the company wants? Competitive or bust? That’s how Halo 5 was…yet Halo 3 was able to do both. The better game between the 2 is obvious.
Just hold out for Custom Games with Forge, that’s literally what its designed for and what keeps MCC and all the halo games alive, being able to edit maps and try whacky stuff with game mechanics and weapons etc.
You’re absolutely correct, the tools to have a genuinely fun Halo are all there that’s for sure. I think the challenges do interrupt the flow of the game though but we expected that really. I have found myself playing BTB as well because of the current 4v4 environment. My squad actually prefers ranked 4v4 to quick play because it somehow feels more fair or at least expected.
Seriously kid? Just shut up. You were just posting and arguing about melee taking 2 hits and how it’s too op even tho that’s been a mechanic for 20 years so don’t you dare talk about real halo fans cuz you aren’t one. And in that same post you were complaining that halo doesn’t play like Fortnite, warzone, overwatch and apex. You’re a joke. You’re probably a 12 yo little kid who’s momma just bought him his first Xbox and spends half his day basing all of his gaming opinions off of what he can parrot from half baked YouTubers. No one takes you seriously. No one cares what you have to say. So be a good boy and get to bed.
You’re the same kid whining about getting killed by a Spartan’s melee attack in another thread you created. I don’t think you get authority to say jack to this guy who wants to enjoy a side of Halo that has ALWAYS BEEN THERE since the FIRST GAME.
He was never asking for Halo to drop it’s skill. He was wondering if it’s currently too skill based (it is) and wondering where the goofy whacky side of Halo is since some things from the older titles are gone that helped make the game more enjoyable and fun. Like some of the physics for objects, player collision, etc. And while I feel that Infinite is pretty fun right now as it is, it can be improved upon in the fun aspect. That’s where stuff like Forge comes in.
To want Halo to be exclusively sweaty and not casual in any aspect is not how Halo is, was or ever will be. Halo is meant to be fun, bottom line. It’s a game. Casuals are allowed in. Hate to break it to you chump, but casuals are the main playerbase and I’m pretty sure you;re one of them.
Get the -Yoink!- off your high horse when you shouldn’t even be on one. Absolute joke.
This kid is that absolute example of why making halo a free T rated game was a terrible idea. Game won’t die because of it’s gameplay mechanics. If it ever dies, it’ll be because of the brain deads who accidentally downloaded it.
I feel like it was more fun to play during the last flight before this launch, right now I’ve found myself playing not to have fun but to finish challenges so I can unlock armors and things. The fact that modes can’t be picked and the challenges are not all active at once is painful, especially if one challenge is to finish a game of a certain mode, and then the next one that becomes active is to win the mode you just won last game. It’s nothing but luck when it comes to that.
The only fun I’ve had so far is in playing with friends, in 4v4 it’s alright, but in BTB our fireteam gets split up even if we have 3 or 4 people in it, so our colors don’t match in game and we have to find each other. 343 can probably get away with it since it’s technically a “beta” but if things remain the same at actual launch, then the only thing that’ll be going for this game is the fact that the MP is free and it’s got Halo on the nametag.
When i see the ‘complaint’ of the topic-starter i had to laugh real hard. I’ll explain later why.
First why i firmly disagree with him:
He wants to have ‘fun’ fights, meaning fights against players clearly less then him. But in doing so he basicly says that those lesser players should be forced into matches (among others against him) they clearly have no fighting chance and are only serving as cannon fodder. Those players should have the worst time, just because he wants to have ‘fun’. I don’t think he realy realizes what the consequences are from what he is asking.
He says that MCC was better in that front. But the whole problem with MCC was just that. Because of that the lesser players were fleeing from the game and the game had lots of quitters because they didn’t want to play in those incredibly one-sided matches. MCC’s playerbase also plumeted from an average of 25-30k (highest point even 54k) one year ago to just 8-12k just before infinite came out. Some of that is normal, but a lot of players also left the game for the terrible matchmaking that the topic-starter now asks should be implemented in Infinite. Please not!
Second: if he wants to experiment, that is exactly why the game has the academy with the training matches and otherwise the botmatches. So people can have chill games without have to sacrifice lesser players to a terrible time.
Now why i had to laugh hard when the topic starter talked about ‘fun matches’: i matched against him and 2 of his friends on MCC about 1-2 months ago i guess (it was clear to see that there were together, because the other 2 also had a nametage starting with ‘hor5eman_’). I was seaching solo and didnt get good teammates, so they had a clear win (and derservedly, they were clearly better), but they were realy toxic, calling my team(mates) trash and even picking a fight with one of my teammates when he (or she?) said that they didnt need to insult. Its laughable when you talk about having ‘fun games’ while being incredibly toxic in those matches. To be honest: if i remember correctly it was one of his two friends who was doing that, but still…
Hey there! I believe you have me (or I suppose us in this scenario) mistaken with someone else. When I play with teammates we don’t play in game chat, we start an Xbox party AND I am on console so I never take the time to type out messages in the in game chat rooms because it’s a nightmare. It’s a solid story and I am sorry if it happened but it just wasn’t me.
That wasn’t on topic though so perhaps that story was an attempt to negatively color the perception of my argument? In reality no I don’t want to only play people “lesser than” my skill level. That’s not at all what I mean by fun but I feel like I’ve made that clear already. Hey thanks for taking the time to give some input though; even to someone you believed was toxic.