Forge has become one of halos most important and popular modes. It allows people to be creative and design whatever map they want. Sure I’m not the best at forge but I love playing on the great creations of others. It would be real dumb if they removed it
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> > People were mad that Halo 5 didn’t have INFECTION (a gametype) for months, you cut Forge and that is a level of pissed off 343 will never recover from.
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> The same was with Firefight,etc.343i can never make their own Halo game if they have to do everything that Bungie has done.Since this will be a not numbered Halo,without 6 in title 343i can try doing something new to evolve Halo.
If they want to “make their own game” then don’t take over an existing franchise. Like it or not people are going to have certain expectations when it comes to a long running series and ditching major features is not the way to “evolve” anything. Moreover I don’t buy that there is a pressing need to “evolve” the game in the first place.
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> > > I don’t like forge, I have rarely used, personally I wouldn’t miss it, however there are those that like it. I think 343i have already removed enough, playable elites, blood, splitscreen, emblem making was ruined, customisation was reduced and more. All listed should return, and forge should remain, and have a terrain editor like Far Cry added, that might get me forging more.
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> > You would miss the maps and gamemodes being made from it.
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> No I wouldn’t, I don’t think I’ve ever downloaded a forge map or game mode, I have zero interest in what players make. Like I said it’s something I have rarely used, but it should remain for those who like it.
Have you ever played Matchmaking? Its all forge maps.
Does Halo Infinite need Slayer?
That’s the kind of quesiton you are asking.
How about no
Let’s keep Forge please
I don’t make maps in Forge and don’t even play Multiplayer all that much. But even I shudder to imagine what Halo would be like without Forge… It’s been one of the coolest things about Halo. You’ve probably played forged maps without even realizing it, because they are so prevalent in the community. Think of it like the Skull, “Eye Patch”, from Halo CEA (it turns off auto-aiming). In the description it says “you’ll miss it when it’s gone”. Same can be said for Forge.
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> > Forge is a part of the magic of halo, removing it would be a great mistake
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> They could make Halo Forge game separately,bigger and with more options.
No one would buy a halo game that only has forge they should just have it in the main game
I would like it if forge was not mandatory to download because I do not use it very much, but people can use it well and create amazing things so definitely keep it.
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> > > People were mad that Halo 5 didn’t have INFECTION (a gametype) for months, you cut Forge and that is a level of pissed off 343 will never recover from.
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> > The same was with Firefight,etc.343i can never make their own Halo game if they have to do everything that Bungie has done.Since this will be a not numbered Halo,without 6 in title 343i can try doing something new to evolve Halo.
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> Cutting Forge doesn’t evolve Halo.
I meant only if it would improve the fps aspect of the game.
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> > > > I don’t like forge, I have rarely used, personally I wouldn’t miss it, however there are those that like it. I think 343i have already removed enough, playable elites, blood, splitscreen, emblem making was ruined, customisation was reduced and more. All listed should return, and forge should remain, and have a terrain editor like Far Cry added, that might get me forging more.
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> > No I wouldn’t, I don’t think I’ve ever downloaded a forge map or game mode, I have zero interest in what players make. Like I said it’s something I have rarely used, but it should remain for those who like it.
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> Have you ever played Matchmaking? Its all forge maps.
You’re twisting this. I have played slayer in matchmaking. I have never knowingly downloaded user created content. I had no option to play forged maps in Halo 5 because 343i made some of them from forge. It’s another reason I dropped the game after a few months, bland and boring design. Like I said, I have zero interest in forge, but it should be there for the players that like it.
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> > > > > I don’t like forge, I have rarely used, personally I wouldn’t miss it, however there are those that like it. I think 343i have already removed enough, playable elites, blood, splitscreen, emblem making was ruined, customisation was reduced and more. All listed should return, and forge should remain, and have a terrain editor like Far Cry added, that might get me forging more.
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> > > > You would miss the maps and gamemodes being made from it.
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> > > No I wouldn’t, I don’t think I’ve ever downloaded a forge map or game mode, I have zero interest in what players make. Like I said it’s something I have rarely used, but it should remain for those who like it.
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> > Have you ever played Matchmaking? Its all forge maps.
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> You’re twisting this. I have played slayer in matchmaking. I have never knowingly downloaded user created content. I had no option to play forged maps in Halo 5 because 343i made some of them from forge. It’s another reason I dropped the game after a few months, bland and boring design. Like I said, I have zero interest in forge, but it should be there for the players that like it.
Maybe I read it wrong. But okay.
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> > > > > > I don’t like forge, I have rarely used, personally I wouldn’t miss it, however there are those that like it. I think 343i have already removed enough, playable elites, blood, splitscreen, emblem making was ruined, customisation was reduced and more. All listed should return, and forge should remain, and have a terrain editor like Far Cry added, that might get me forging more.
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> > > > > You would miss the maps and gamemodes being made from it.
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> > > > No I wouldn’t, I don’t think I’ve ever downloaded a forge map or game mode, I have zero interest in what players make. Like I said it’s something I have rarely used, but it should remain for those who like it.
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> > > Have you ever played Matchmaking? Its all forge maps.
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> > You’re twisting this. I have played slayer in matchmaking. I have never knowingly downloaded user created content. I had no option to play forged maps in Halo 5 because 343i made some of them from forge. It’s another reason I dropped the game after a few months, bland and boring design. Like I said, I have zero interest in forge, but it should be there for the players that like it.
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> Maybe I read it wrong. But okay.
You read it wrong if you weren’t twisting it. I’m not against forge, but it’s not something I’m interested in, however I’m not selfish enough to vote against it’s inclusion because I don’t use it. I have no choice if 343i use forge, but I never have and never will knowingly download another players content. I have also never knowingly played custom made content. I play slayer, if I can’t play slayer I usually don’t bother.
I will try new studio content like Warzone, but if I don’t like it I drop that too. I don’t think I’ve ever played infection either. The other maps or modes you mentioned earlier in the thread are alien to me, you putting them in the post is the first time I’ve heard of them. I won’t go looking for them though. Hope that explains my view a bit better.
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> > > > > > > I don’t like forge, I have rarely used, personally I wouldn’t miss it, however there are those that like it. I think 343i have already removed enough, playable elites, blood, splitscreen, emblem making was ruined, customisation was reduced and more. All listed should return, and forge should remain, and have a terrain editor like Far Cry added, that might get me forging more.
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> > > > > No I wouldn’t, I don’t think I’ve ever downloaded a forge map or game mode, I have zero interest in what players make. Like I said it’s something I have rarely used, but it should remain for those who like it.
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> > > You’re twisting this. I have played slayer in matchmaking. I have never knowingly downloaded user created content. I had no option to play forged maps in Halo 5 because 343i made some of them from forge. It’s another reason I dropped the game after a few months, bland and boring design. Like I said, I have zero interest in forge, but it should be there for the players that like it.
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> > Maybe I read it wrong. But okay.
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> You read it wrong if you weren’t twisting it. I’m not against forge, but it’s not something I’m interested in, however I’m not selfish enough to vote against it’s inclusion because I don’t use it. I have no choice if 343i use forge, but I never have and never will knowingly download another players content. I have also never knowingly played custom made content. I play slayer, if I can’t play slayer I usually don’t bother.
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> I will try new studio content like Warzone, but if I don’t like it I drop that too. I don’t think I’ve ever played infection either. The other maps or modes you mentioned earlier in the thread are alien to me, you putting them in the post is the first time I’ve heard of them. I won’t go looking for them though. Hope that explains my view a bit better.
Do you just play campaign? Just curious.
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> > > > > > > > I don’t like forge, I have rarely used, personally I wouldn’t miss it, however there are those that like it. I think 343i have already removed enough, playable elites, blood, splitscreen, emblem making was ruined, customisation was reduced and more. All listed should return, and forge should remain, and have a terrain editor like Far Cry added, that might get me forging more.
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> > > > > > No I wouldn’t, I don’t think I’ve ever downloaded a forge map or game mode, I have zero interest in what players make. Like I said it’s something I have rarely used, but it should remain for those who like it.
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> > > > You’re twisting this. I have played slayer in matchmaking. I have never knowingly downloaded user created content. I had no option to play forged maps in Halo 5 because 343i made some of them from forge. It’s another reason I dropped the game after a few months, bland and boring design. Like I said, I have zero interest in forge, but it should be there for the players that like it.
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> > > Maybe I read it wrong. But okay.
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> > You read it wrong if you weren’t twisting it. I’m not against forge, but it’s not something I’m interested in, however I’m not selfish enough to vote against it’s inclusion because I don’t use it. I have no choice if 343i use forge, but I never have and never will knowingly download another players content. I have also never knowingly played custom made content. I play slayer, if I can’t play slayer I usually don’t bother.
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> > I will try new studio content like Warzone, but if I don’t like it I drop that too. I don’t think I’ve ever played infection either. The other maps or modes you mentioned earlier in the thread are alien to me, you putting them in the post is the first time I’ve heard of them. I won’t go looking for them though. Hope that explains my view a bit better.
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> Do you just play campaign? Just curious.
I just stated I play slayer, are you reading my posts ?
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> But it takes over 30 gigabytes or so on Halo 5 just for Forge.No matter how good maps people could make the developers maps will always be better.I tried playing Custom Browser for Timmy Helmet but i can’t play it,its just Assassinations,Clan recruits and Infection.And when someone tries to make something unique of a game mode,they can’t because you can not change the game rules much beyond core mechanics.I know that a lot of people love Forge,but im suggesting it to make it a seperate thing outside of Campaign and Multiplayer.
Than… say so from the get go? 
As someone that has a really terrible internet connection sadly, I can agree that splitting the game in multiple downloads would solve a lot of issues, especially when it comes to updates. Oh man, those updates! HOWEVER, if you buy Hi the package better includes SP, MP, cinema and Forge as a bare minimum! Completely dividing the game in section would divide the community and hurt the franchise as a whole. Also I think even if the game has multiple downloads, than it should automatically download the content while you’re navigating menus or playing solo - so that everyone is up-to-date and on the same content level as fast as possible. If we cut stuff it should be the bloated sea of useless or duplicated REQ content imho.
Forge itself is a really powerful tool. It’s not a blown out editor of course and that comes with its clear defined limits, but it comes really close to be one. Also the introduction of programming in H5 added an extra layer of complexity I never though would have been possible. So I highly disagree with you there mate! Both in level design and game modes, forge gave us the best parts Halo 5 had to offer. By a landslide I would add! Its the sole reason why I came back on this game, even though I hate AMM games from the get go.
I even went so far and downloaded it for PC - even though the Win10 store is among the worst launchers on the markets and has an horrendous download manager. I hope Spencer will keep the promises and resolve all the issues around the release of Scarlet, especially if they want to transform Xbox into an all around platform and not just a console. Sorry, went OT there! 
Returning IT, forge maps like Echos or Elixir have better geometries and more interesting visuals than anything I’ve seen from 343i in MP so far - graphics aside of course. Because yes: Forge has limits. We’re not too far away from a blown out editor, but FC for instance is way ahead of us. And yet some creations are just beautiful! Just look up “Rapture” as a reference. What the community does - even with this limited creation tools - never finishes to amaze me!
And what Halo does better than anyone on console is the custom game editor. Here I disagree with you on every level. If you say Halo’s custom games are just slight variants, than you haven’t really played Forge game types at all. We can gladly discuss maps quality, but the game-types variety in H5 has no competition on Xbox. I even go so far and claim that costume modes in modern Halo are objectively speaking the best on the console market right now. The only thing I can think of that could give us even more freedom is a weapon customization tool for damage, rate of fire and such, pre-made loadouts options or a class system for forge only and personalized HUDs for different teams (for Trouble in Terrorist Town kind of modes). But there are already workarounds to that and mini-games like Flapjack Frenzy, Duck Hunt, Castles, Prop Hunt, Podracer and Fat Kid are proof of that! Than there are the full-fledged game modes too, like Siege, Rally and Griffball (which started as a forge mode in H3). Not to mention the costume game browser, which could be better on an UI level, but it’s still an amazing feature to have!
Forge is just a great time and saved Halo 5 for me! Therefore having to read that it’s useless kinda hurts me. A lot! 
Different people different tastes I guess, but don’t underestimate the power of Forge or the the community behind it!
EDIT: just finished reading the whole tread, I rarely agreed with so many different users at once! X’D
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> > Cutting Forge doesn’t evolve Halo.
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> I meant only if it would improve the fps aspect of the game.
No it wouldn’t. The way development works is that you have teams working on different aspects of the game. The people working on campaign and multiplayer aren’t going to necessarily be the same people. There might be some overlap, but for the most part they are distinct. Same goes for the Forge team.
You are simply asking for something to be cut that would alienate a good chunk of the fanbase.
I see Forge is a sacred thing for most Halo players,was expecting a lot of backlash from this question and i got it 100%
.The only real reason i asked this was cause i wanted a better,much longer Campaign.But i have no idea how game size works on current generation,i thought if a game like Halo 5 has 100 gigabytes download size,what is among the biggest of all games on market,that there have to be compromises in each aspect of game.
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> I see Forge is a sacred thing for most Halo players,was expecting a lot of backlash from this question and i got it 100%.The only real reason i asked this was cause i wanted a better,much longer Campaign.But i have no idea how game size works on current generation,i thought if a game like Halo 5 has 100 gigabytes download size,what is among the biggest of all games on market,that there have to be compromises in each aspect of game.
Just like Dr Halsey said, there are a lot of people working at 343i and just making a part of this team stop working
in their “branch”, the people working at the “campaign-branch” won’t suddenly start working “better” thus making an objectively better campaign.
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> Honestly i mentioned a long time ago on Forums that i would rather have Campaign and Multiplayer Halo be 2 separate games.And now i think Forge should also be a separate thing.Im sure this way we would have much more quality content in all 3 of those components.They would all receive new content and improvements every couple months.
You’re a dingus if you think this is a viable option.
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> There may be fewer forgers, but the good ones pump out some awesome maps. Where would I be without A Squid Loaf and his puzzle maps? Or unsorted guy with his creative custom games?
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> Forge may not be a tool that you use, but it is a foundation for what makes Halo fun and creative. Fat Kid wouldn’t exist without forge. Or Duck Hunt. Jump Rope. NASCAR. Hot Pursuit. Halo on Halo.The list goes on and on.
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> Halo Infinite Needs Forge.
You are getting a big red heart from me!