How hard is it to add even the default OBJ gametypes into BTB right now?
> How hard is it to add even the default OBJ gametypes into BTB right now?
Well since they are making TO 6v6 because people have been asking for Objectives to be added to Big Team Lol Slayer, it will most likely never be any objectives in Big Team Lol Slayer.
Just got to love how they mess up the stuff players ask for, added TO oh then lets make it 4v4 instead of the 5v5 we used to have, players asked for Objectives to be added to BTB, oh then lets make TO 6v6 instead and still not really give the players what they asked for.
Im happy with it, 6 vs 6 seems pretty good to me, means TO can have some of the smaller maps that wouldn’t fit into BTIS. Also some of the maps that seemed a little to large for a 4 vs 4 TO will play better.
Overall I’m happy about the recent bulletin.
6v6 would be a perfect in between size for the new maps/bigger on-disc maps. Stop complaining about things just because they are different.
Its a step. They might as well remove Dominion and add it to the playlist, though.
The more they mix Objective gametypes together, the less population it will have. Look what happened to Team Regicide when they combined it with KoTH and Oddball. Players don’t want to have to play a ton of games they might not necessarily like just to play the one specific gametype they are looking for.
CTF should be a permanent playlist by itself. Make it 6v6 to add bigger maps…maybe. It’s not like any of the DLC maps ever come up anyway.
KoTH, Oddball, Extraction, and Team Regicide should be on weekly rotations. 4v4 or 5v5.
Add the big map gametype Extraction to Dominion. Keep 6v6.
6v6 is NOT anything like 8v8.
We need an 8v8 BTB objective playlist that uses bigteambattle.net settings.
6v6 is horrendous for Objective. There are too many players for Oddball, KOTH and Team Regicide and not enough for BTB CTF. Team Objective needs to stay 4v4 and CTF only should be added to Big Team Infinity Slayer.
On top of that, Abandon, Haven and Adrift are too small and the BTB maps are too big leaving us with only a few maps that play well.
I made a similar topic, but it got moved to the polling booth since it has a poll. So far the answer to your headline is: No.
PLEASE VOTE!
> How hard is it to add even the default OBJ gametypes into BTB right now?
None!
But, I do not support the mixing of BTIS (aka key word SLayer) with objective game types to make BTB (aka slayer and objectives).
BTIS (aka Slayer, based on kills/deaths) must have its stand alone play list as it has dome for all of Halo 4.
And, Team Objectives, whether 6v6 or 8v8 and, whether called Team Objective or BT Objective, must hive its separate stand alone play list.
343i, I like how you have had separate play lists for slayer, SWAT etc and others for Dominion, CTF, Oddball etc. Sure, moving Extraction to Team Objectives due to its smallish population is right to do. But, mixing a game mode (Slayer) which is purely about kills/deaths with other game modes that are about capping a flag, holding a hill, holding a ball etc, is wrong, IMO.
Keep them separate as they currently are, that is, BTIS and Team Objective. Or, if you must, rename Team Objectives as BT Objective. If the team sizees are to be increased, that will be fine with me.
Don’t get me wrng, I love both Slayer and objective game modes, especially CTF, Dominion, KOTH and Oddball. But, I don’t want them mixed together as they are not the same. If I want to play several games in a row for Slayer and work to a CSR, that’s what I’d like to concentrate on. Or, if I am in the mood for objectives, I can have a break from slayer and go to the Team Objective play list. I believe it was wrong to mix slayer and objectives in past Halos and call it BTB. What you, 343i have done, by having a separate Slayer aka BTIS and Team Objectives is the right way to have gone.
> 6v6 is NOT anything like 8v8.
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> We need an 8v8 BTB objective playlist that uses bigteambattle.net settings.
While I support 8v8, I do not support the mixig of Slayer with Objectives. Both must remain in their own stand alone play lists, that is, BTIS for 8v8 slayer and a separate Team Objective/BT Objectives (or whatever it might get called).
> Its a step. They might as well remove Dominion and add it to the playlist, though.
No!
Dominion has enough people play it and it warrants to be a stand alone list. While I think moving Extraction was a good move due to its low population, Dominion, on its own, is fine.
The wrong thing that 343i could ever do is ruin BTIS (aka slayer) by mixing it with objective game types. One is about kills/deaths and the other capping a flag, holding a ball or extracting a site.343i, don’t ruin it by mixing them all together, that is, slayer with objectives.
> > 6v6 is NOT anything like 8v8.
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> > We need an 8v8 BTB objective playlist that uses bigteambattle.net settings.
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> While I support 8v8, I do not support the mixig of Slayer with Objectives. Both must remain in their own stand alone play lists, that is, BTIS for 8v8 slayer and a separate Team Objective/BT Objectives (or whatever it might get called).
I wouldnt want to mix them either.
But I would want a classic feel big team battle playlist.
With the objectives mixed with legendary (non-infinity) slayer.
> > > 6v6 is NOT anything like 8v8.
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> > > We need an 8v8 BTB objective playlist that uses bigteambattle.net settings.
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> > While I support 8v8, I do not support the mixig of Slayer with Objectives. Both must remain in their own stand alone play lists, that is, BTIS for 8v8 slayer and a separate Team Objective/BT Objectives (or whatever it might get called).
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> I wouldnt want to mix them either.
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> But I would want a classic feel big team battle playlist.
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> With the objectives mixed with legendary (non-infinity) slayer.
That would be cool.
So, do you mean two voting options for slayer?One BTIS and the other BTB (aka classic)?
But, yes, slayer on its own play lists and objectives on another 
I will not be buying the new map pack so that I can play 6v6 objective on some extra maps, when what I wanted was 8v8 objective in the BTB playlist.
They just need to add objective game types to BTB. I know Infinity Slayer is in there but it’s time they change the name of the playlist to Big Team Battle and give everyone what they want… Some objective in the mix. As for Team Objective itself, it should stay 5v5. 6v6 is a step up for them to do it maybe in the future, but then we’re going to be playing some what medium sized maps so then Team Objective is ruined till they make that step up of sticking Objective into BTB.
Most of Halo gameplay works better in an objective based setting but BTB is basically made for objective. CTF on Meltdown anyone? KOTH on Vortex? Neutral flag on Longbow? Seriously, it absolutely blows my mind as to why BTB is slayer only. Is this really what the Halo population enjoys? Stale mindless killing for hours on end? Nothing beats the rush of out running someone in CTF to snag a last minute flag cap. I love Halo 4 but 343 makes some terrible decisions resulting in me loving it a lot less than I should be. It blows my mind at the amount of talent at 343 yet not one person can figure out how to manage the playlists. I really hope they get it together for Halo 5 launch. BTB with objectives and Multi-team are things that should launch with the game. Don’t make vital playlists tack-ons half a year after the game releases.
Halo 4 needs a playlist overhaul. Wipe everything off the board 343 and listen to what the community wants. I hope this is at least done in a month or so after the Castle playlist starts getting consistent triple digit numbers in the player pool. As a Map Pass owner I also wouldn’t mind seeing the maps go on sale or even become free at this point considering I never even get to play them anyway. Go back to the Halo 2 process where we have the choice to purchase maps or get them free a couple months later. Anyone that cares are still going to buy them anyway and everyone else will have an incentive to maybe come back and give the game another try.
Sorry, I got a little off-topic their…
Not really. 4 players are the difference between squad games and BTB games.