It was pretty clear from the outset that the way this tournament was set up only people who could play for hours and hours every day were going to stand a chance of winning - no doubt the tags at the top are probably shared by multiple people taking it in shifts to try and play as close to 24 hours a day in order to win the top prizes. Once I realised this I lost all interest in the tournament and have not been trying in it at all really.
It should have required an amount of games to ‘enter the hat’ and then it should have been a random draw from that. The way this has been set up is going to do no good for some people’s health over the next month - seriously.
I have a full time job, wife and three kids so only play a little and stand no chance against some of the obscene amounts of hours that have been played so far.
That said, good luck to anyone trying to win a prize in this tournament. I hope you get what you want and happy holidays to you all.
Please take a look at the post I have made in this thread in regards to the tournament. Thread
To get to the top of Tier 2 and win a $400 Warhead Headset it only takes 4 games a day, which is less than 45 minutes.
Happy Holidays!
Agreed. This is a horrible setup and it’s socially irresponsible to run a tournament like this.
The person who wins the truck will either:
A) have spent a dangerous amount of time playing the game on little sleep. There are multiple accounts of players dying from exhaustion after playing 30+ hours straight (in Asia). Have fun with the lawsuit from the kid’s family,Microsoft. Literally, you CANNOT win this this tourney without putting your health in serious danger.
To anybody at 343i reading this: do you have no shame? No conscious?
B. share an account with your friends. 24/7 baby.
That said, we don’t know the format of the finals yet. But the way the rules are written doesn’t give me hope. Basically it says the same format will be followed.
Please make if skill based. I’m not going to win a prize either way, but this tourney is irresponsible, as stated by the OP.
> Please take a look at the post I have made in this thread in regards to the tournament. Thread
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> To get to the top of Tier 2 and win a $400 Warhead Headset it only takes 4 games a day, which is less than 45 minutes.
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> Happy Holidays!
No.
It will be a LOT tougher than 4 games/day in the finals. People know not to try now, but there’s probably 100 people strategically placing themselves in tier 2 just to try to snipe the headphones. Probably more than 100.
Anyway logic is flawed. 4 games / day assumes 300+ points a game. This probably means you’re winning. As you win, your competition gets tougher, and look - now you’re only managing 100-200 / game. That’ll work for a couple days… But you’ll end up hitting the wall. Skill means nothing here.
> Agreed. This is a horrible setup and it’s socially irresponsible to run a tournament like this.
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> The person who wins the truck will either:
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> A) have spent a dangerous amount of time playing the game on little sleep. There are multiple accounts of players dying from exhaustion after playing 30+ hours straight (in Asia). Have fun with the lawsuit from the kid’s family,Microsoft. Literally, you CANNOT win this this tourney without putting your health in serious danger.
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> To anybody at 343i reading this: do you have no shame? No conscious?
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> Please make if skill based. I’m not going to win a prize either way, but this tourney is irresponsible, as stated by the OP.
Virgin Supports Responsible Gaming and does not encourage excessive gameplay.
Not everyone can get to the Olympics, stop complaining.
> It will be a LOT tougher than 4 games/day in the finals. People know not to try now, but there’s probably 100 people strategically placing themselves in tier 2 just to try to snipe the headphones. Probably more than 100.
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> Anyway logic is flawed. 4 games / day assumes 300+ points a game. This probably means you’re winning. As you win, your competition gets tougher, and look - now you’re only managing 100-200 / game. That’ll work for a couple days… But you’ll end up hitting the wall. Skill means nothing here.
My argument was targeted towards Spartan Ops, my apologies for not considering the Matchmaking side of the tournament.
I have just taken a look at the MM Leaderboards, it will take about double the time averaging 4 games an hour and getting 200-300 points a game. Spartan Ops does seem to be the easier route.
> As you win, your competition gets tougher, and look - now you’re only managing 100-200 / game. Skill means nothing here.
Playing consistently well against opponents that increase in difficulty the more you play… I would say that it takes some skill to do so.
As far as your concerns with “Snipers” after the first day or so most “Snipers” get discouraged because they see the top spots have many more points then they do.
Prizes are still there to be won for the vast majority of players who do not have excess amounts of time.
> Not everyone can get to the Olympics, stop complaining.
There is no skill involved. Maybe the spec…never mind.
I’m not complaining, it’s just sad to see my favourite franchise reduced to a less than 100k population and a developer that runs pony shows like this.
> > It will be a LOT tougher than 4 games/day in the finals. People know not to try now, but there’s probably 100 people strategically placing themselves in tier 2 just to try to snipe the headphones. Probably more than 100.
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> > Anyway logic is flawed. 4 games / day assumes 300+ points a game. This probably means you’re winning. As you win, your competition gets tougher, and look - now you’re only managing 100-200 / game. That’ll work for a couple days… But you’ll end up hitting the wall. Skill means nothing here.
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> My argument was targeted towards Spartan Ops, my apologies for not considering the Matchmaking side of the tournament.
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> I have just taken a look at the MM Leaderboards, it will take about double the time averaging 4 games an hour and getting 200-300 points a game. Spartan Ops does seem to be the easier route.
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> > As you win, your competition gets tougher, and look - now you’re only managing 100-200 / game. Skill means nothing here.
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> Playing consistently well against opponents that increase in difficulty the more you play… I would say that it takes some skill to do so.
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> As far as your concerns with “Snipers” after the first day or so most “Snipers” get discouraged because they see the top spots have many more points then they do.
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> Prizes are still there to be won for the vast majority of players who do not have excess amounts of time.
Yes, and when you win games you will earn less points per game. The setup rewards team killing basically. Max your points while still losing the game is the winning strategy for this tourney (Wargames), no exceptions.
If you’re not familiar with MM and the hidden system behind, you may not understand.
> Yes, and when you win games you will earn less points per game. The setup rewards team killing basically. Max your points while still losing the game is the winning strategy for this tourney (Wargames), no exceptions.
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> If you’re not familiar with MM and the hidden system behind, you may not understand.
I am not familiar with the system so that is fair.
I thought betrayal booting was enabled, also don’t the game’s points not count if the player is booted? What about the ban for quitting too many games?
There are always exceptions.
Not to mention the peson who will win the truck will either be A: from a country where no-one drives big trucks, or B: Too young to have a driver’s license.
I wonder how many people have had seizures so far
It is just a stupid advertising gimmic to make more money.
Next the coca-cola swat challenge, MacDonald’s big mac big team battle and of course the Range Rover Regicide tournament!
Strange, Hey im new here WAS on the spartan ops leaderboard… but now I can’t find him. And he was HIGH on it to, like I’ve been playing a bunch, less so atm cause holidays but above me… just sayin, they got a point about it being dangerous for peoples health. wait for the last week.
-Yoink!- has assumed all responsability for the tourny if my reading of the small print was correct, fyi.
I’m in tier 2 and only play like 1 hr a day so it works for me
I shudder when I think of the state of the guy/gal at #1 tier one…=/
If this tournament were skill based, exp and game completion wouldn’t matter as much. But no, it just had to be “complete as many games as possible” so people would keep playing halo 4…
I love people that bring this up as an actual issue… a tournament has rules, when you sign up, you are ACCEPTING those rules. Complaining about them means you misunderstood something.
I didnt join the Tournament for the very reason that i didnt agree with its method of choosing a winner
> I love people that bring this up as an actual issue… a tournament has rules, when you sign up, you are ACCEPTING those rules. Complaining about them means you misunderstood something.
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> I didnt join the Tournament for the very reason that i didnt agree with its method of choosing a winner
Yes true
But this tourney is so bad it’s a public health concern. Lol.
And it’s a game we love/loved. Bungee would never never ever have allowed Microsoft to run something like this.
Dark thats not exactly true,
Just cuz a tourny has rules doesn’t mean it can subject contestants to anything even if they agree to it.
I remember the hold your wee for a wii contest a few years back. They had the contestants drink a ton and I mean a TON of water to try and win a nintendo wii. During the radio show(which this was being broadcasted on) a nurse called in to tell them of the health issues to which they said they agreed to the terms and it will be fine…it wasn’t… first place woman died. Jobs were lost lives were ruined, lawsuits were filed.
There is a social responsibility that is to be taken whenever you are creating a contest. People will ALWAYS destory themselves in hopes of winning free stuff and really there is no end to what some people will risk so it’s the hosting org. job to NOT let them go to far/push them too far.
I remember hearing early people jesting about whose gonna compete for the truck in the final round seeing as all the top people will be dead bye jan 10. It was sad but it might be true, someone will be forever harmed by this tourny health wise, and yes it is their own fault as well, there is personal responsibility, but from the start this should have been accounted for when making the rules. the qualifiers should NOT have been a month long for one thing, they should have been shorter, or maybe even just say reach this point to be tier 1.
Another idea is they could have done a take your best 15-20 games of the day kinda scoring, so once someone hits the 20 they can, do other things ya know…
Sigh.
most people with lives and such wouldn’t win a tournament based on skill either. I’m not too concerned over it, or even participating