Just out of curiosity why is this not TU? I’m actually enjoying this playlist now with the new maps, but playing with 100% bloom is terrible. Any chance this becomes TU?
No.
> Just out of curiosity why is this not TU? I’m actually enjoying this playlist now with the new maps, but playing with 100% bloom is terrible. Any chance this becomes TU?
The way these maps are set up,the bloom is less noticeable to me since they aren’t super wide maps like Spire or Boneyard…
Anyway,I used to be like you,asking why TU isnt in Invasion,until somebody showed me a thread about it…I will try to find taht thread for you,but no gurantee’s here
I’d love it TU, but for the sake of 100% bloomers lets give them one more playlist besides TS and AS
Basically the problem is with loadout balance. Particularly in earlier phases. Spartans hold the best cards in the case of precision weapons, which is what TU buffed up. TU on invasion would throw off the loadout weapon sandbox balance.
I don’t understand how anyone can enjoy 100% bloom. I can’t believe I played so much of this game with it on pre-TU.
They don’t think it can work with invasion. I’d like to personally see why it can’t.
> They don’t think it can work with invasion. I’d like to personally see why it can’t.
Invasion was made for vanilla REach…making it TU will destroy the game type’s balance…a whole thread made a very good point on this,but i can’t seem to find it 
> They don’t think it can work with invasion. I’d like to personally see why it can’t.
There is a topic somewhere that goes into this with extreme detail. I don’t know where the topic is myself, i usually see it linked in such questions about Tu and Invasion. What i do know from the argument there, incorporating the title update would be akin to dumping a bucket of wrenches into the gears.
The bloom reductions unbalance the entire sandbox of invasion. An advancing spartan with a bloom reduced magnum for example would make short work of an elite, while an elite with a needle rifle crouching can squeeze off a broken amount of rounds without bloom disrupting their aim.
Nerfed AA’s work properly in their original forms in the playlist as well. The nerf on AC would negatively impact the elites in all tiers of invasion, while the Al nerf would negatively impact the spartans in tiers 2-3.
and low and behold, while i was typing, someone posted up the link.
> > They don’t think it can work with invasion. I’d like to personally see why it can’t.
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> Invasion was made for vanilla REach…making it TU will destroy the game type’s balance…a whole thread made a very good point on this,but i can’t seem to find it
You can correct me if I’m wrong here, but I believe the thread you are referencing addressed the potential problems prior to the removal of bleedthrough. With bleedthrough gone its worth taking another look.
EDIT: After reading through that thread again I still think invasion would benefit from the TU. the bleedthrough part of that argument is fair, but bleedthrough is gone. AL and AC don’t have to remain in their original OP state to remain “fair” in Invasion. Reduced bloom evens out between Spartans and elites for the exact reasons the poster used to try to argue against them.
> > > They don’t think it can work with invasion. I’d like to personally see why it can’t.
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> > EDIT: After reading through that thread again I still think invasion would benefit from the TU. the bleedthrough part of that argument is fair, but bleedthrough is gone. AL and AC don’t have to remain in their original OP state to remain “fair” in Invasion.
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> > Seeing as how invasion maps took the pre-TU AC and AL into consideration,putting TU AC and AL into them means they kinda have to change to adapt to the changed AAs.It might be minor or major,but they’ll have to adapt.
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> > Reduced bloom evens out between Spartans and elites for the exact reasons the poster used to try to argue against them.
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> > I love reduced bloom , I really do…but all of the inv maps WERE made for pre-TU…Adding TU Means the maps have to change .How much?I dont know,but I’m willing to bet alot.
> > Anyhow,The NR spawn for the Elites just won’t do…As 343i once said,the TU NR is now a power weapon as it should have been…and I don’t like the idea of having my enemies the ability to spawn with Power Weapons.