Invasion could work without elites.

I think that invasion would work with just spartans. Red team tries to capture the core from Blue team. Just like normal invasion, but instead of elites, spartans. Thoughts?

As a huge fan of invasion, I would love to see it return in Halo 4, even if its Spartans vs. Spartans.

Yah that would still work. Invasion was fun and i welcome its return.

It doesn’t even need to be a core, it could just be a flag.

If Invasion returns, there has to be more spawn points. 6 players on each side round 1: 6 spawns a good distance away from each other. Spawn Killing is a common issue, and it seems to happen most with groups of reclaimers and inheritors. But that could just be me.

As for Spartans on Spartans, I think I read somewere that we can be a class a promethan. I hope at least in customs we can be promethans, as war games is in a simulater. So why not simulate Spartans as promethans? Or maybe in future games, Elites?

That’s my opinon.

I too love invasion, because it is a multi-stage complex objective gametype. Those rare games when everyone on each team is taking things seriously and no one is quitting are some of the most fun I’ve had on reach.

Even if it’s not Invasion per se, if 343 implements a similar gametype with a lot of strategy that is able to attract a solid population I’d definitely spend time playing it elites or not. Especially with the new ability for players to join mid game to negate the effects of quitters.

> If Invasion returns, there has to be more spawn points. 6 players on each side round 1: 6 spawns a good distance away from each other. <mark>Spawn Killing is a common issue, and it seems to happen most with groups of reclaimers and inheritors. But that could just be me.</mark>
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> As for Spartans on Spartans, I think I read somewere that we can be a class a promethan. I hope at least in customs we can be promethans, as war games is in a simulater. So why not simulate Spartans as promethans? Or maybe in future games, Elites?
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It doesn’t matter what rank they are, if a team is dominating they will automatically spawn kill. When I used to play Invasion with my team we did it as well…

> > If Invasion returns, there has to be more spawn points. 6 players on each side round 1: 6 spawns a good distance away from each other. <mark>Spawn Killing is a common issue, and it seems to happen most with groups of reclaimers and inheritors. But that could just be me.</mark>
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> > As for Spartans on Spartans, I think I read somewere that we can be a class a promethan. I hope at least in customs we can be promethans, as war games is in a simulater. So why not simulate Spartans as promethans? Or maybe in future games, Elites?
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> It doesn’t matter what rank they are, if a team is dominating they will automatically spawn kill. When I used to play Invasion with my team we did it as well…

I feel like this happens a lot on Spire, especially when someone on the spartan side quits and/or your team mates go afk. Makes me wonder why Bungie didn’t just add a soft-kill boundary around the first stage spawn areas… or simply add more than just one spawn point at the beginning stage. Would definitely make it harder for people to start grenade spamming your spawn point.

> > > If Invasion returns, there has to be more spawn points. 6 players on each side round 1: 6 spawns a good distance away from each other. <mark>Spawn Killing is a common issue, and it seems to happen most with groups of reclaimers and inheritors. But that could just be me.</mark>
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> > > As for Spartans on Spartans, I think I read somewere that we can be a class a promethan. I hope at least in customs we can be promethans, as war games is in a simulater. So why not simulate Spartans as promethans? Or maybe in future games, Elites?
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> > It doesn’t matter what rank they are, if a team is dominating they will automatically spawn kill. When I used to play Invasion with my team we did it as well…
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> I feel like this happens a lot on Spire, especially when someone on the spartan side quits and/or your team mates go afk. Makes me wonder why Bungie didn’t just add a soft-kill boundary around the first stage spawn areas… or simply add more than just one spawn point at the beginning stage. Would definitely make it harder for people to start grenade spamming your spawn point.

There are definitely some unique spawn-kill problems on Spire that need some fixing.

Why not Spartans vs. Prometheans?

> Why not Spartans vs. Prometheans?

Because, as far as we know, we can only play as Spartans.

I guess, it’s not like we can bring back elites…

Sure, I’d love to see it return, regardless of who we’ll be playing as.

> > > If Invasion returns, there has to be more spawn points. 6 players on each side round 1: 6 spawns a good distance away from each other. <mark>Spawn Killing is a common issue, and it seems to happen most with groups of reclaimers and inheritors. But that could just be me.</mark>
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> > > As for Spartans on Spartans, I think I read somewere that we can be a class a promethan. I hope at least in customs we can be promethans, as war games is in a simulater. So why not simulate Spartans as promethans? Or maybe in future games, Elites?
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> > It doesn’t matter what rank they are, if a team is dominating they will automatically spawn kill. When I used to play Invasion with my team we did it as well…
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> I feel like this happens a lot on Spire, especially when someone on the spartan side quits and/or your team mates go afk. Makes me wonder why Bungie didn’t just add a soft-kill boundary around the first stage spawn areas… or simply add more than just one spawn point at the beginning stage. Would definitely make it harder for people to start grenade spamming your spawn point.

When a person quits it just makes the job easier, but it’s still pretty easy to spawn kill a team of 6 on Spire, because it’s such an open map. Of course spawn killing is very easy at the first phase because Elites have the higher ground, but it’s also very easy in the 3rd phase.

When you’re the elites you just need two guys with the Rocket Launcer who will spawn kill the guys at the rocket spawn. Another two guys with the Fuel Rod Gun at the shotgun spawn. Someone with the Banshee for the middle & the vehicle spawn. And the last guy cleans everybody who gets away up with the sniper.

If you’re the Spartans you just need to make sure you’ll get the Banshee and it will be game over for the Elites. Because all the Elite spawns are so close together the Banshee can spawn kill all of them. You can get some people with the Fuel Rod Gun and Rocket Launcer at the most right spawn next to the big rock and if someone gets away you still have the Sniper to clean them up.

The best solution in my eyes is, like you already said, add more spawn points. If there are only 3/4 spawn points it’s just way too easy to control the map. Especially with a map like Spire.

Yes, I want it, regardless of the absence of elites.

Invasion would not be the same at all to me without Elites. I voted no, but I guess that’s a little dishonest; it just wouldn’t be as good without Elites to me.

So, bring it back, by all means, but I’m gonna miss the Spartan vs. Elite aspect.