Infinite won't last for 10 years

When unveiled at the Xbox showcase in July 2020, Chris Lee touted that Infinite was meant to be the platform for Halo content for the next 10 years. He was really excited that it would be the hub where all future Halo releases would happen. However, shortly after the reveal and delay, he left the company. Joe Staten is now the creative lead, and he hasn’t mentioned it being the platform for the next 10 years. I’m guessing he and the rest of the team have dropped the notion of it being a 10-year platform. On top of that, Infinite hasn’t been the success they wanted, and is currently struggling. I’m thinking that in 3-4 years from now, the next Halo game will release. How’d you feel about Infinite likely not being a10-year platform?

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Ok

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I think it could last 10 years. I don’t think it will be 10 years before the next halo game, however. Which is how most everyone seems to interpret that statement, which boggles my mind.

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“destiny will have a 10 year roadmap”

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Don’t forget the anthem 10 year plan.

I never expected infinite to last 10 years, bc we’ve been fed this 10 year plan marketing lie a lot in the past few years. very often this lie is just there to justify am unfinished game which leads to just broken promises when the have underperforms (anthem, Halo, Avengers).
Some games which used this lie just died earlier (anthem, avengers) and some changed them completely (destiny) and aren’t even close anymore to the promised plan.
Still can’t believe people are still buying into this marketing lie.

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It won’t last three years if the rumours are true
The words “unmitigated disaster” come to mind
As bad as H4 an H5 were, this is somehow worse which is a same becuase I actually really like the game at its core.
Its not perfect but as a classic halo fan I undertsand this is as close to H3 as we are ever going to get again…

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The idea of the gaming last 10 years, sure it could last 10 years. Look how long MCC has been going and we content continues to be released for the handful of Halo games. The same can be done with Infinite, but with the challenges this game currently has, I’m not sure sure how “great” the next game would be.

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The thing is: the games lasting 10+ years aren’t the games we were told that would last 10 years. They are games that were designed to be fun, while the live service games are designed to sell MTs and are therefore less fun (creating problems to sell solutions)

10 years is a long time for a game and I don’t understand why these studios try to make that a thing. These games are not MMO’s and don’t have the same kind of loop gameplay that keeps people around for that long.

Even if this game was really solid, I couldn’t see it maintaining a healthy player base for that long without people getting bored and wanting something new. That said…the game has too many problems and I don’t really see it maintaining its current player base for much longer, especially with MW2 around the corner.

I’m generally just disappointed in the campaign’s live service elements. I think that it would be a huge misstep to release the campaign as it is for $60 and then never add anything to it. The open world feels so two dimensional, but the gameplay and the cutscenes are decent. I’ll be disappointed if they just move on and try again, since this is the closest 343 has come to making a good Halo campaign IMO.

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Halo Infinite couldn’t even last 1 year, anyone who thinks it’ll last 10 is coping hard.

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I feel extremely bamboozled for spending $60 on this campaign. Just couldn’t get behind it and enjoying it.

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I think it’s absolutely possible: It just depends on if Microsoft cares about the brand’s identity and reputation.

Historical Example: Final Fantasy XIV released in the most abysmal shape imaginable. It was barely playable, buggy, horrendously balanced, not fun, and overall kind of a joke. Guess what’s still around 12 years later and super popular?

As I mentioned above… Final Fantasy XIV says hi

FFXIV requires a company to have a great degree of humility and determination to deliver a great product.

Something you don’t really see in western AAA studios.

But they didn’t deliver a great product. The product they delivered was horrendous. At launch that game was in a much dire state than Halo Infinite. They effectively had to make a brand new game from the ground up as an apology; Halo Infinite doesn’t need to go that far.

No Man’s Sky.

Edit: Or, for a more relevant release, Master Chief Collection (unplayable disaster at launch, now it’s in a good state with updates 8 years later)

3-4 years? :rofl: Infinite took 6 and look how that turned out.

Usually when I see people touting 10 year plans I instantly see it as complete bogus but in Infinite’s case I kind of wished for it (and still do) to work out.

343 have always struggled releasing a finished product that meets the expectations of the community so them releasing a single multiplayer to expand upon for years without having to redo everything constantly is genuinely an amazing idea. It would mean they could finally start pushing the franchise forward for once instead of always playing catchup. We’d also be seeing campaigns way more often as they don’t have to be tied to a new game release.

Slipspace being so bad and daddy Microsoft rightfully being unhappy with Infinite’s performance may put pressure on 343 to change these plans but I really hope they stick with it and give Infinite the MCC treatment with new campaigns to eventually bring a wider audiences back.

The one thing I don’t understand is why the community seems to want 343 to scrap Infinite so badly. Sure it is in a awful spot rn but sticking with it will not only be faster than a new game but mean fans don’t go without content for years like H5 only to end up with another unfinished product.

Halo Infinite has lost the vast majority of its playerbase. It’s not ever getting those numbers back, the game is a mess all the way down to its code, this game does NOT have a 10 year life ahead of it. I’d be very surprised if it made it to the 2 year marker.

First campaign DLC for Infinite has a target of 2025. Originally they weren’t going to do dlc for campaign as they never have before. But they are doing it because the community wants it. It’s a common ask. Just going to take awhile to develop and implement.

This 100%. They’re moving slow right now (development Hell) so they can move faster later. They’re thinking long term and are extremely likely to stick to the 10 year plan. They built their own engine for a reason and it’s getting worked on and improving daily.

An example of how the slipspace engine is improving is the playlist selection in multiplayer. A year ago, they couldn’t add more playlists without causing critical errors. Now we’re getting a new playlist that stays every couple months. Most recent being big team social following the yappening event.

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So did FFXIV (and it lost its players A LOT quicker than Halo Infinite). Last year it surged in popularity to the point where Square had to scramble to accommodate both new and returning players.

First of all, same with FF XIV. Second, show me the messy code. From where I’m standing, all the major issues are bad systems that are fundamentally flawed at the design level. The biggest issues in the game can be fixed without some insane overhaul to the game’s tech. You got some insider info that I don’t know about? (And please, provide more than the quote about the Store UI that everyone brings up)

You woulda said the same thing about FF XIV back in 2010/2011.

This is what annoys me about gamers who have never worked on a video game in their life. Making video games takes a long, long time. it’s inherently slow. And if you’ve got problems with management and the processes that you work under (which we know regarding leaks of high profile departures that were causing issues with development)? It’ll take a while to course correct.

A single team could search for a good candidate for months before filling a vacancy. Overhauling a system with a new paper design, implementation, iteration, testing, further iteration, and eventually release can take over a year.

I think it will last 10 years and that we will have fun playing it for most of that time and I hope all the deluded fanatics who want 343 to fail because they’re not getting exactly what they want from the game will leave the community once and for all and go be toxic on some other game like Destiny or whatever…

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