Overall impressions of the BTB mode or very positive so far. Fragmentation is a superb map and I love what you folks have done with the vehicle spawns. Having heavy vehicle spawns delayed by a bit helps the match pacing significantly, IMO.
Main suggestion I’d give is to increase the indication range for when a loot room becomes available for unlock by another 10-20 meters.
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> I’m personally not a fan of the new vehicle spawn system in BTB. I prefer the old way. If a scorpion/wasp etc are going to be on the map I just assume have them be there at the start. I understand what 343i is going for with this new system but I dislike it.
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> I don’t flat out hate the new mechanic for BTB, maybe it’s the map. The idea is to see the Pelican coming in with a vehicle; which is cool…if I could see the pelican. If I’m below the cliffs I have no way of knowing which direction the vehicle landed in.
Big problem with this method is the battle over who gets the vehicle. Everyone wants to try and it ends up going to whoever’s latency wins. in prior games it was whoever spawned closest that wanted it, which honestly (and weirdly?) felt more fair, and over the course of a play session meant pretty much everyone got a chance.
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> Frame rate is bad and hit detection is off… weapons are unbalanced. Radar needs to be fixed, literally the enemies show up on the radar in melee range.
agree it. ur right
I must know more about the little space groundhogs! Haha.
Great map. Lots of fun. But…
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Vehicle drops are giving very rarely the powerful vehicles.
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A lot more trouble connecting this time around. Either wont load multiplayer menu or says I’m not the fireteam leader.
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Crashed twice on Xbox Series X. Once from entering the loot cave.
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Joining mid match I was killed while still in the loading screen. Kind of annoying.
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Exiting vehicles takes too long to get out before they explode.
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Would rather the entire team show up at the victory screen. Like in halo 5.
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Why are there no female spartans in the multiplayer? No voice choice and just a body type choice? No chatter from them on the battlefield either. More masculine and feminine body types should be added as well to make sure it feels like we are the spartans.
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AI… Love the concept, but they need more varied lines and to not tell me I’m running low on ammo every 3 seconds. I don’t mind the introduction of AI and Agryna as the commander. It’s kind of like Palmer from five and makes sense. But we all want and NEED Steitzer!
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Not happy about the reduction to medals. The weapon specific sprees and such would be nice. Also here I feel like the AI is trespassing on Steitzer territory. Haha.
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Its (maybe) too easy to spot people who are hiding because of the outline system.
Other than that, I hope there is a lot more weapons, vehicles and equipment that we haven’t seen yet. What we have now is nice but doesn’t feel quite as varied as previous games. Curious to know if the Assault game mode returns as well.
A lot more fun with BTB imo. Just enough chaos to get hectic and just enough space for shenanigans. Hope more open and vehicle focused maps are in the making. Like Sandtrap from H3.
Keep up the great work!
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> Pros of BTB so far (having played roughly 5-6 matches):
> - Wow, this is really fun! I love the sandbox as well as the wide open map. - Chaotic feel of BTB is really there - Hacking loot caves is really cool! I could easily see custom games/modes centered around the number of hacks you can do in a game and such - I love the idea of vehicle drops coming in as well as the weapon pod things. - Overall I am really enjoying this and am looking forward to spending all weekend playing it :)Cons of BTB so far:
> - Timer for the game feels REALLY short, especially in CTF. I’ve played about 6 matches so far, and only ONE of them was not subject to a timeout (A slayer match). This feels really annoying, especially if the game is just starting to get good at that time. It also leads to severe turtling tactics by whichever team gets a flag/total control point first (since they’ll win as long as they deny the points). - Perhaps related to the short game timer, but the iterative/escalating vehicle drop thing you all have implemented could use a speed buff. It seems like out of the 15 minutes allowed for play time, 14 minutes of those are for ghost/warthog drops. I haven’t even SEEN a tank yet, and I’ve only seen air vehicles once. Decreasing the threshold for these types of vehicles to spawn would be cool, so we can see more of it all. - On the subject of loot caves, how is the actual loot decided? I’ve opened several of them and every single time it seems to be a gravity hammer, spike grenades, and an overshield. Confirmation of some variety/randomness would be nice.
Update: Played throughout the entire first window, still have not seen tanks or any more air vehicles. Also, can confirm that there are other RNG spawns in loot caves.
SO FUN!
Feels like a true halo game 10/10
You guys KILLED it <3
I think that BTB shows some of the flaws the game still has a lot more than arena. They, in my eye, are the short radar range and the highlighting of enemy players, as you will always be seen, even when standing outside of the action. With this the scope flare also has the same effect. You have no chance to react or kill anyone if you’re getting shot at just seconds after you peeked. Also the AR not being descoped when shot at, but ranged weapons do, is making this even worse - the AR sometimes kills faster than the commando in mid-far range.
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> > Crashes everytime I start it. I play on xbox one X and banned second time for crashing
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> I too got banned for crashing. My ban does not have a timer. Did yours?
No but it’s not permanent, it’s like 5-15 mins
Wonderful job on BTB 343i! It feels amazing to experience even as a player whose not entirely into BTB in the past games. It’s genuinely amazing.
Feedback:
I’ve only managed to squeeze a couple of games in so far but my main comments are:
Looking forwards to playing more over the weekend!
Keep getting that I can’t connect to servers…
Mission Report on 10am to 2pm BTB
Played on Xbox Series S
Issues:
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> Here is my BTB specific feedback. I’m running on a Series X, playing on a 65" LG OLED CX and overall having a blast. I began playing Halo in 2002, and this is the most “Halo” multiplayer has felt for me in a long time.
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> I’m enjoying:
> - the overall chaos of BTB. It feels so active, all the time!
> - the ordinance drops across the map. They feel fair and rewarding to me.
> - grappling onto vehicles and maneuvering around Fragmentation. This is so much fun.
> - having a Fireteam to start out with, and their names highlighted in green on the map.
> - fusion coils making a fun return in multiplayer. I have yet to grapple and throw one, but I can’t wait to do so!
> - Fragmentation is gorgeous and really impressive to look at. Level design feels spot on, as does the art direction.
> - Shock Rifle on this map and Skewer are really fun.
> - Weapon caches are a great idea.
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> Things to improve:
> - why can’t I hear Jeff Steitzer? I would prefer to hear just as many announcements as I do in other modes.
> - aiming still feels a little off. I know this is a work in progress, which is great.
> - I would still like blood decals on walls, floors etc for tactical and aesthetic purposes. It doesn’t feel “Halo” to me without blood.
> - In 12v12 especially, when a teammate dies their position should be marked with a red ‘X’ for contrast against active teammate tags.
> - Banshee feels really heavy to me, and a little difficult to pilot.
> - Scoreboard for CTF – ‘Carrier Kills’ on the far right is a very odd stat. I’d prefer just to know overall kills.
> - the ability to mute teammates selectively off the in-game scoreboard would be nice, especially in BTB.
> - Perhaps most of all, I don’t like the Commando spawn vs the BR spawning on wall racks. I will grab a BR off the rack, but I don’t go for the Commando rifle.
> - In general, I think Fragmentation needs a few more long range weapon spawns, especially at start. It’s the mad rush for 12 people, and depending on where I spawn it’s a bit frustrating.
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> Thanks again for letting us play Big Team Battle! It’s been really fun so far!
“when a teammate dies their position should be marked with a red ‘X’ for contrast against active teammate tags.”
Seconded! I kept running towards dead teammates
Played for 3 hours without a break. Fragmentation is such a great map. First connection attempts were horrible. Joined a match and could stare at a wall while floating in the air, but never spawned. Had to quit that one. FPS and responsiveness were very stable. I’m very sensitive to input lag, but have not noticed it ( Playing on Series X).
One annoying bug. At the first blue flag spawn (on Fragmentation), I was able to sprint into a pillar (1 of 3 surrounding the flag) and was stuck inside. I could not get out and had to kill myself with nades.
Pros
Cons
I would like to be able to communicate with more than 3 of my 11 Teammates.
Halo 2 Style Proximity Chat needs to be implemented. It was more fun and as long as there is an option to turn it on or off, everyone should be happy.
No Traning Mode to explore the Big Map?
First BTB no issues… 2nd dropped at start of game and 3rd entire game shut down and I got banned… If your testing a product that’s has issues to cause a crash the banning on btb needs to be lifted… I understand the reasoning for arena play having it so people don’t game jump looking for a specific map or game type. But seriously btb is 1 map with 3 game type, everyone that was playing just wants to play it…
By far the most fun I’ve ever had from a halo game however I did experience a few bugs for example every time I did a slide I see the inside of my body and sometimes when you reload it makes you reload twice before being able to fire. (my friend was experiencing this to) the new map fragmentation if phenomenal the balancing is perfect if not close to perfect. I personally don’t mind the battle pass system or the challenge system I quite like it. Same goes for the armor coating system. I don’t know if I like the vehicles speed yet they feel really fast and the warthogs sound design makes me feel like a driving a golf cart or Honda Civic. The warthogs turret reticle is not my favorite either it’s too small and and the turret itself feels like an absolute laser whether that’s a bad thing I don’t know. Other than that my experience with halo infinite was amazing hats Off. A few little tweaks here and there and halo infinite might just be the best game of the year.
ps: fix bxb
-Constant static noise during a couple of big team battle matches
-Brief moments with loss of audio and chat while in combat
-Concentrate the position and spread of the bulldog weapon
-Make assault rifle slightly stronger to stand some ground in combat. There are times when the enemy or me have to empty a clip and a half or more to get the kill. It feels nerfed as a base weapon, while the pistol feels about right.
-Vehicle drops barely drop the most powerful vehicles. They also need to spawn some more during a match.
-Please have a reliable ban system that punishes players that are afk the entire time or quit immediately in the middle of a match. This usually happens after realizing they are losing the match. It is annoying and ruins the flow of combat on both sides.
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> Mission Report on 10am to 2pm BTB
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> Played on Xbox Series S
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> Issues:
> - Crashing after every BTB match
> - Crashing at customization menu
> - Stuck on black loading sometimes
> - Players popping in and out from the ground but it was very rare
> - Player stutter
> - Running animation becomes stuck at times
> - Gun will not show after picking it up
> - Feels like there is an input delay with my controller, but that honestly could just be my controller
> - Aim assist was off when it come to try to hit multiple people, like it was stuck on the one behind the guy I was trying to shoot
> - Some frames issues
> - Stability issues
> - The outlines personally im okay with spartans, but with vehicles is abit too much. The outline from spartans plus the vehicle outline is pretty much too noticeable
> - Sounds issues when it come to AR, BR, and Commando
> - Customization is still locked from battlepass even though I completed the level for that armor piece
> - Random Stutter from movements
there’s also another issue going on for some of us, we are not able to play cuz in the menu it says we are offline for some reason and it won’t let us access any of the multiplayer modes.
For the warthog chain gun visuals it would be good to be able to see the lines for the bullets rather than just the end point you are shooting at, as it can be difficult to see where you are shooting.