I’m sure everyone on the internet has heard the term, ‘The Streisand Affect’. Shutting the reddit down has now seen even more videos uploaded to Youtube. This whole thing has caused so much trouble. We now even have the Halo fans turning on each other. One of the guys on my friends list, was having a disagreement in the forums, with two other users, they ‘Brigade Flagged’, if that’s a term and now his account is locked.
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This game broke the record for most funding spent on a single video game ever, the fact that they spent around 600 Million on development and can’t include modes from the early 2000’s is incredibly shameful. I have no doubt that they worked hard, and I know that the game is free, but in previous years we payed $60 and got more modes and more customization without spending any extra money. Now if I want 3 armor sets I have to spend a full $60, that is ABSURD.
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I mean bad is opinion based, although to be fair that makes what I said wrong as well. My idea of bad is completely unenjoyable, I think that anyone who says that any of the Halo is impossible to have any amount of fun playing is bs’ing. It might be significantly less fun than previous entries, but never completely unenjoyable.
I am still trying to wrap my head around how a community manager whose job it is to manage this kind of stuff thought it would be a good idea to respond to an ongoing PR dumpster fire by making a statement of “I’m sorry you’re disappointed, we’re working hard through difficult circumstances, servers cost money”
That was the PR equivalent of dumping gasoline on the fire and the internet riot that has followed was an inevitable result.
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Yeah. Sure. Blame it on the community manager. Not the jerks who decided to jump that guy. Perfect. Absolutely flawless logic.
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The OP specifically outlines the problems, as well as how he thinks they should be fixed (for most of the problems, not all), which is completely opposite of just saying “game bad”. And as far as being noticed, that is a completely fair argument. I have no doubt 343 are working hard, but relaying feedback to the devs and relaying information on development and design choices to the fans are literally the two main elements of his job (Not that I am at all aware of his specific situation, but he is a community director, and generally this is what they are paid to do).
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I mean… the playbook for how to handle this kind of thing is obvious. Most big AAA companies with live service games have this figured out. When the internet riots about a problem with your game, you do one of two things:
- “no comment”
- “We’re sorry. We messed up. We will work hard to fix these things”
Both are proven to work and to work well. #2 is astonishingly successful at quelling outrage and building goodwill with your community.
But that’s not what we got, so instead of quelling outrage, the outrage increased.
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I feel like even that second thing happened and outrage still happened regardless. It’s like people WANT to get outraged…
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Maybe I’m not being charitable enough in my reading, but I definitely read the response as “I’m sorry you’re upset”, not “I’m sorry we messed up”, and I think the people rioting are reading it that way.
I don’t personally feel anything like outrage. I’ve been watching what this company does for 10 years, and I’m more just sighing and shaking my head in resigned bemusement. 343 are the most skilled company at tripping over their own shoelaces that I’ve ever seen.
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My impression is the same. Zero accountability.
Why even have flights or beta periods if they were going to ignore almost everything.
From what I’ve read all the flights did was have them change weapon balance.
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Yes, reddit was where a huge portion of commenters took place, however they need to release a “Inside Infinite” on this website, that addresses all these problems and how they will correct them and protentional time frame. As well no excuses, those do not matter and this is not a blame game, it needs to be a time of listening and implementing fixes to the game that the players want.
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I stopped caring about the weekly rewards and leveling my pass. The only hype I have left just turned into regular anticipation for the Campaign. I simply dropped MP and went to playing Pokemon Brilliant Diamond. More interesting than Halo right now, sad to say.
Maybe I’ll feel like returning if they learn to shape up and start making positive changes.
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Have you played the game? I guess if you’re talking about being dead in the sense of lack of support since Infinite is here then you’d be correct, but on any platform games can still be found, well depending on the game you’re searching for – I love Halo 3 the most and it seems the most populated, so great for me, but I guess it’s not so great for players of the other games. Either way, Halo 3 is still populated and I plan to continue playing it way more than Infinite.
Lmao ffucking same! I just started dabbling in Switch Emulation stuff because of my disappointment with Infinite. I’m having way more fun with Pokemon BD/SP rn than anything else.
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Halo 4 & 5 were the pivotal downfall of Halo. Objectively.
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Love your passion man! 
Hopefully, you also want playlists to be more like Halo 3 or as they were at Halo 5 launch! I, for one, will NOT be spending any money on Halo until certain things change. I encourage all other 10, 15, and 20+ year Halo fans to do the same. Happy Holidays!
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Plus, more people are coming back to the old formula, from the sheer un-innovative idea of infinite.
Lol yeah, my exhaustion with Infinite right now had me go pick up Diamond and I’m having a blast just shiny hunting. It’s a time consuming process, but it’s fun just to hunt a special colored monster. All the while I go " Maybe I should get that weekly reward " then I think about how not fun it is to chase the weekly reward and go " Nah. "and boom, I keep playing Pokemon lol. I get way more rewarded for my time in here than I am in infinite. Probably cause I get to play Pokemon the way I want to.
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Shattered even, halo 5 fans would defend 343 like their “almighty god” for everything and say “hurr durrr!!! i think what 343 is breaking infinite by microtransactions, customization and othurrr things is right! believe me! im a whale!”
The downfall started with Reach, but Halo 4 was a catastrophic leap off a cliff for the franchise’s multiplayer base. They took one of the biggest franchises for 10+ years and dropped it to a niche game that could barely hold a 20k peak concurrent player count one year after release. Hard to know exact numbers, but well over 90% of Halo’s established playerbase simply vanished after Halo 4’s launch because it was so bad.
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Hear, hear. This post nails down why I uninstalled the game. I was loving the gameplay, but it was like going to a racist bar for a really good beer: nothing about what I liked could erase the disgust for what I didn’t. Until 343i actually starts implementing the fixes players want, Halo Infinite will stay uninstalled. And if they can’t implement those changes because it would be too long, too costly, or impossible given the game’s architecture, well… Maybe they didn’t make the game right.
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