Infinite Looks Amazing

first time poster here.

I think Halo Infinite looks amazing! I think it looks like a TON OF FUN to play. I would just like to say that when you get away from the popular Halo Youtubers (more on this later) and twitter trolls, most of the people I come across think Halo Infinite looks fantastic and so much fun to play. I spent 10 minutes looking at the links of anti-Halo twitter posts and I -Yoink- you not, 9/10 users were self proclaimed PS-fanboys who wouldn’t play Halo if they could, which they can’t, because they don’t own an xbox or ever plan to. These are not the people 343 should be listening to, but in the internet world you just see the negativity and it’s hard to not assume these are previous Halo players. I saw literally 1 in 10 actual Xbox or PC gamers.

I’ve been playing Halo since CE in 2001 on the OG xbox. I used to video tape my co-op multiplayer games with friends on VHS tapes using my VCR. We’ve come a long way lol.

I just wanted to start a post with a little Halo positivity, because the amount of hate garnered from supposed Halo “fans” is just eff ing weird. shtting on Halo has become a favorite pasttime from Halo Youtubers. I think it partly comes from their own superiority complex where they think because they’ve read into and helped curate understanding on Halo lore for years, they think they are the gatekeepers of “what is Halo” and what isn’t. And partly just that NEGATIVITY and anti-Halo clickbait titles is simply going to garner more clicks and views. Which feeds into their own understanding that their “superior understanding of what Halo should be” must be correct, I mean, the view count confirms it right? YAWWWWN

These are the same people who got wrecked in Halo Multiplayer and so they complain about Sprint being “unfair.” These are called babies. It’s the same type of gamer who think Season 1 of Fortnite was the best because the player count was so low and features nonexistent they were able to get some wins. As soon as they couldn’t get into the top 20 let alone win, OH it’s the game’s fault. Be wary of people who complain for the reasons they complain. LOSERS complain the loudest. Were you kicked out of a restaurant for not wearing a mask?? oh you better believe they’re leaving a bad yelp review claiming the food was terrible and the staff were rude. YAWWWWN

I’m thrilled about the new weapons, the new Halo ring, the new enemy variants, the merge of new and old art styles, the OPEN WOOOOORRRRRRLD format, the enemy AI, the battle pass concept… it all just looks and sounds so good! The fact that I also remain hopeful for AMAZING Multiplayer, Forge and Theater Modes… can only add to my excitement.

I will leave you with this tidbit of anecdotal information. Most of the people -Yoinking!- and moaning aren’t going to play Halo Infinite for more than 3 months ANYWAY. Regardless of what 343 does or changes. RE. GARD. LESS. So do everything these temporary fans want? wow. You might get 4 months out of them instead. As a 20 year long Halo fan, I’m here for the 10 year plan. Stop listening to the fakers. The supposed “hardcore fans” who -Yoink- and moan aren’t actually hardcore fans.

I’m here for the long term:

Im so ready for infinite to come out!!

Halo!

I think the gameplay will be good. I brush the graphic memes off

I like the basic art style 343 have gone for. It’s a lovely nod to the original game, and while it’s not as detailed (gritty?) as a lot of people hoped - it’s pretty amazing given that it’s an open world game at 4K/60fps. It’s also a style that should scale back to the Xbox One reasonably well.

The problem was that Microsoft held 343 back from putting out any promotional stuff - and then pushed Infinite out on the pedestal for unveiling the Xbox Series X. If they wanted to show off and wow us with the raw graphics power of the new beast they probably needed to lead with a corridor shooter or scripted story game (but I guess none of those games are anywhere near ready for launch).

If they could have drip fed us some more actual game info (a screenshot here or there)… and pushed the scale of the world etc… I’m sure there wouldn’t have been anywhere near as much initial disappointment.

But really, when you compare Halo Infinite with current open world shooters… and cut 343 some slack for being first game out (new consoles take a gen or too to come into their own)… and take into account the pandemic etc… I’m sure we’re going to be amazed with Halo Infinite.

I think your definition of ‘amazing’ is extremely warped…

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> I think your definition of ‘amazing’ is extremely warped…

I get it. I was pretty flat after staying up to watch the event (2am here).

I hadn’t really considered the open world aspect going in. And once you embrace that you then need to wind back your expectations from what they could have done graphically with a more on-rails type world. Especially with what they are doing at 4K/60fps.

The reveal was too secretive and over-hyped… especially with the narrative of the Series X and it’s raw power. And putting Halo’s native gameplay up against a series of rendered demos and tailored montages was a bridge too far.

Hopefully 343 can tidy up some of the issues and reclaim the narrative.

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> > I think your definition of ‘amazing’ is extremely warped…
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> I get it. I was pretty flat after staying up to watch the event (2am here).
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> I hadn’t really considered the open world aspect going in. And once you embrace that you then need to wind back your expectations from what they could have done graphically with a more on-rails type world. Especially with what they are doing at 4K/60fps.
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> The reveal was too secretive and over-hyped… especially with the narrative of the Series X and it’s raw power. And putting Halo’s native gameplay up against a series of rendered demos and tailored montages was a bridge too far.
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> Hopefully 343 can tidy up some of the issues and reclaim the narrative.

There plenty of current gen massive open world games that look drastically better in every aspect.

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> > > I think your definition of ‘amazing’ is extremely warped…
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> > I get it. I was pretty flat after staying up to watch the event (2am here).
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> > I hadn’t really considered the open world aspect going in. And once you embrace that you then need to wind back your expectations from what they could have done graphically with a more on-rails type world. Especially with what they are doing at 4K/60fps.
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> > The reveal was too secretive and over-hyped… especially with the narrative of the Series X and it’s raw power. And putting Halo’s native gameplay up against a series of rendered demos and tailored montages was a bridge too far.
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> > Hopefully 343 can tidy up some of the issues and reclaim the narrative.
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> There plenty of current gen massive open world games that look drastically better in every aspect.

In terms of an open world massive FPS shooter?

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> > > > I think your definition of ‘amazing’ is extremely warped…
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> > > I get it. I was pretty flat after staying up to watch the event (2am here).
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> > > I hadn’t really considered the open world aspect going in. And once you embrace that you then need to wind back your expectations from what they could have done graphically with a more on-rails type world. Especially with what they are doing at 4K/60fps.
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> > > The reveal was too secretive and over-hyped… especially with the narrative of the Series X and it’s raw power. And putting Halo’s native gameplay up against a series of rendered demos and tailored montages was a bridge too far.
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> > > Hopefully 343 can tidy up some of the issues and reclaim the narrative.
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> > There plenty of current gen massive open world games that look drastically better in every aspect.
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> In terms of an open world massive FPS shooter?

Speaking of open world FPS I’m looking forward to Cyberpunk 2077.

Cyberpunk 2077 of which the alpha gameplay reveals looked three times better then Halo: Infinite.

Even Destiny 2 looks better.

Hmmmm. Every day the irony gets better imo. I dont think fighting fire with fire is the way to go. Positivity and positive feedback is welccome… but ignoring and turning a blind eye toward legitimate criticisms are an issue perhaps just as bad as unconstructive negative feedback. (not even sure if thats feedback lol).

The fact of the matter is the following:
Halo infinite largely looks good to me. . . but clearly is not meeting the standards of what most considered was the standard of the next generation gaming, including my own expectations.

It looks fantastic enough for me… but there are still things id like to be ironed out or tweaked.
Its becoming free to play for the mp, and it seems like it might be able to run on a wide range of pc’s… thats great for me… now i dont have to buy a console nor game … i dont even have to have gamepass… to play halo. Aint that awsome. I am totally down to playing the next halo without any payment what so ever… for me
Now i dont have to set a high standard…

  • its gonna be the halo for the next 10 years supposedly .
    All good news… to me
    Lol
    I dont have high standards… I just want to play a halo game. The better the halo game the happier i am. But heck im still going to put pressure to get more value for less money lol… which in my case is not paying any money at all… (except im probably still gonna get gamepass just to play the campaign.)
    What is halo… is an argument long going within the halo community and many people have a point when they say some of the artistic choices seem unhalo… or when they say some of the elements of gameplay or sandbox seem unhalo…
    They have a point… a point that doesnt neccesarily have to be catered to, but at least aknowledged and recognized. Personally i think this doesnt look much like previous halos… but hey… thats because its a new halo lol. halo 2 didnt look like halo CE. Halo 3 didnt look like halo 2. Halo reach did not look like halo 3. Halo 4 did not look like halo reach. XD Each of them adding or removing elements of the sandbox, tweaking apperances, and changing the form halo took. Only thing arguably that remained as was retained is the essence of the gameplay, and elements that would hint at the continuity of the universe.

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> first time poster here.

Welcome

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> I just wanted to start a post with a little Halo positivity, because the amount of hate garnered from supposed Halo “fans” is just eff ing weird.

You say this and then proceed to analyze why Halo haters are hating Halo, but is that even worth your time?

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> I’m thrilled about the new weapons, the new Halo ring, the new enemy variants, the merge of new and old art styles, the OPEN WOOOOORRRRRRLD format, the enemy AI, the battle pass concept… it all just looks and sounds so good! The fact that I also remain hopeful for AMAZING Multiplayer, Forge and Theater Modes… can only add to my excitement.

Nice to see positivity. I am also looking forward to playing Halo Infinite. Seems like it will be a fun game so far.

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> The reveal was too secretive and over-hyped… especially with the narrative of the Series X and it’s raw power. And putting Halo’s native gameplay up against a series of rendered demos and tailored montages was a bridge too far.

Yeah, I kinda have a feeling this is pretty much what happened. In my case, I was paying zero attention to all of this “Xbox Series whatever” stuff, since I recently got a PC that can play games and therefore no longer have a need for an Xbox console. So my expectations were relatively low, and I was happy with what was shown in the campaign demo.

But when I went to share my excitement with my friends, I found they were mostly unimpressed and saying things like “it doesn’t look next-gen” (one of my friends was more unhappy with the weapon designs and art style than the graphics, but I don’t mind those). I was hoping my friends would share my excitement for the game, but it was a sad surprise to see them so underwhelmed. My initial reaction was to dismiss them as graphics snobs, but I later realized yeah maybe it doesn’t look as good as the Slipspace engine demo from 2018. I am totally fine with that, but I can see why they’d be disappointed if they were expecting the gameplay to look like that, especially if it was combined with a lot of boasting from Microsoft about some kind of big new powerful Xbox console.

So people like me are ok with a game that looks “current-gen”, but seeing so many people disappointed that Halo Infinite doesn’t look incredibly groundbreaking makes me inclined to agree with you here: this Halo Infinite gameplay reveal has disappointed people mostly because of how much it was hyped up beforehand. At least as far as I can tell.

Tell ‘em Halo haters! What’s so ironic about this situation is that Bungie also added new things to each Halo game, expanding the gameplay always BUT with that being said, they kept the good Halo artstyle

I’m so glad to see mostly positive replies to my positive post!

And just to re explain, I think constructive criticism is helpful. But I just personally feel like most “anti” statements aren’t constructive. B!#%hing and moaning about Sprint for EIGHT years (8 YEARS!!) is not “constructive criticism.”

I just want more Halo. MOAR! I’m hoping this “10 year” plan is something more akin to dropping a solid new campaign addition once a year, or every 2 years at the MOST. I’d obviously MUCH more prefer an 8-10 hour NEW campaign every 1 year, over a 12 hour campaign every 6 years.

I think PART of why people are so critical of Halo, is how FEW there really are. It’s been 20 years and there are only 7 “real” games (I’m counting 1, 2, 3, ODST, REACH, 4 and 5). But only 4 and a half of those are Master Chief’s story. So they get PUT ON A PEDESTAL. If 343 cranked out more, it would even the plains a bit, so to speak. When COD drops a ‘bad’ game, people just put it at the back of their rankings of all COD’s (I don’t play COD btw). They don’t say OH COD IS DEAD I HATE COD NOW. They know next year there will be another one!!

Overall I think the 10 year plan of Halo Infinite is SUCH a great idea. In my opinion there are some ways to do this BETTER, but I’m sure 343 has a good plan of attack. I just hope they follow through! Stop listening to the haters so much and listen to the lovers!

My biggest point in my OP was that the people complaining are only going to play Halo 6 for 3 months AN.Y.WAY. So don’t try to cater to them so much! They’ll come back every time you release new -Yoink-. Like people do with Fortnite, Apex, etc. But the people rabidly playing it for weeks, months, years – take their opinion with a much higher grade instead!!

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> > I think your definition of ‘amazing’ is extremely warped…
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> I get it. I was pretty flat after staying up to watch the event (2am here).
>
> I hadn’t really considered the open world aspect going in. And once you embrace that you then need to wind back your expectations from what they could have done graphically with a more on-rails type world. Especially with what they are doing at 4K/60fps.
>
> The reveal was too secretive and over-hyped… especially with the narrative of the Series X and it’s raw power. And putting Halo’s native gameplay up against a series of rendered demos and tailored montages was a bridge too far.
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> Hopefully 343 can tidy up some of the issues and reclaim the narrative.

Open world normally doesn’t mean bad graphics though. Whats halo infinites excuse there?

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> I’m so glad to see mostly positive replies to my positive post!
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> And just to re explain, I think constructive criticism is helpful. But I just personally feel like most “anti” statements aren’t constructive. B!#%hing and moaning about Sprint for EIGHT years (8 YEARS!!) is not “constructive criticism.”
>
> I just want more Halo. MOAR! I’m hoping this “10 year” plan is something more akin to dropping a solid new campaign addition once a year, or every 2 years at the MOST. I’d obviously MUCH more prefer an 8-10 hour NEW campaign every 1 year, over a 12 hour campaign every 6 years.
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> I think PART of why people are so critical of Halo, is how FEW there really are. It’s been 20 years and there are only 7 “real” games (I’m counting 1, 2, 3, ODST, REACH, 4 and 5). But only 4 and a half of those are Master Chief’s story. So they get PUT ON A PEDESTAL. If 343 cranked out more, it would even the planes a bit, so to speak. When COD drops a ‘bad’ game, people just put it at the back of their rankings of all COD’s (I don’t play COD btw). They don’t say OH COD IS DEAD I HATE COD NOW. They know next year there will be another one!!
>
> Overall I think the 10 year plan of Halo Infinite is SUCH a great idea. In my opinion there are some ways to do this BETTER, but I’m sure 343 has a good plan of attack. I just hope they follow through! Stop listening to the haters so much and listen to the lovers!
>
> My biggest point in my OP was that the people complaining are only going to play Halo 6 for 3 months AN.Y.WAY. So don’t try to cater to them so much! They’ll come back every time you release new -Yoink-. Like people do with Fortnite, Apex, etc. But the people rabidly playing it for weeks, months, years – take their opinion with a much higher grade instead!!

nobody is b—ing about sprint. Halo 4 was a cod clone with halo aspects. 5 was a failed attempt at real halo competitive play but sprint ruins map size. A halo 5 map on halo 3 could almost be used for big team battle, but definitely used for 6v6.

And if you sprint lovers were actually postive “good” people, you’d be in support of the part of the community that wants at least one game with no sprinting classic halo. Last 3 games had what your camp wanted…

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> > > I think your definition of ‘amazing’ is extremely warped…
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> > I get it. I was pretty flat after staying up to watch the event (2am here).
> >
> > I hadn’t really considered the open world aspect going in. And once you embrace that you then need to wind back your expectations from what they could have done graphically with a more on-rails type world. Especially with what they are doing at 4K/60fps.
> >
> > The reveal was too secretive and over-hyped… especially with the narrative of the Series X and it’s raw power. And putting Halo’s native gameplay up against a series of rendered demos and tailored montages was a bridge too far.
> >
> > Hopefully 343 can tidy up some of the issues and reclaim the narrative.
>
> Open world normally doesn’t mean bad graphics though. Whats halo infinites excuse there?

Depends what you mean by bad graphics.

If you mean the pop in (grass / clouds) - that is a concern… but hopefully is just an optimisation / engine issue.

The variable texture detail? Digital Foundry think it’s mainly a lighting issue - so again, something they can hopefully tweak and optimise before release.

I guess it comes down to how much slack you are willing to give them. New engine, new console, COVID-19… all factors that will contribute to them probably not being as far down the track as they/we hoped. It’s interesting though that not a lot of the other AAA games that were touted for launch are anywhere near being ready (or at least all they have shown is CGI trailers).

The art style itself though? That’s more of a subjective preference. I can see how that style suits running open world at 4K/60fps (plus scale down to the xbone) - assuming of course that we truly get to see large scale battles across this world. If you were expecting a more detailed (gritty?) style - I can see how you would be disappointed. Me though, I quite like the direction it is taking.

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> > > > I think your definition of ‘amazing’ is extremely warped…
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> > > I get it. I was pretty flat after staying up to watch the event (2am here).
> > >
> > > I hadn’t really considered the open world aspect going in. And once you embrace that you then need to wind back your expectations from what they could have done graphically with a more on-rails type world. Especially with what they are doing at 4K/60fps.
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> > > The reveal was too secretive and over-hyped… especially with the narrative of the Series X and it’s raw power. And putting Halo’s native gameplay up against a series of rendered demos and tailored montages was a bridge too far.
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> > > Hopefully 343 can tidy up some of the issues and reclaim the narrative.
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> > Open world normally doesn’t mean bad graphics though. Whats halo infinites excuse there?
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> Depends what you mean by bad graphics.
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> If you mean the pop in (grass / clouds) - that is a concern… but hopefully is just an optimisation / engine issue.
>
> The variable texture detail? Digital Foundry think it’s mainly a lighting issue - so again, something they can hopefully tweak and optimise before release.
>
> I guess it comes down to how much slack you are willing to give them. New engine, new console, COVID-19… all factors that will contribute to them probably not being as far down the track as they/we hoped. It’s interesting though that not a lot of the other AAA games that were touted for launch are anywhere near being ready (or at least all they have shown is CGI trailers).
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> The art style itself though? That’s more of a subjective preference. I can see how that style suits running open world at 4K/60fps (plus scale down to the xbone) - assuming of course that we truly get to see large scale battles across this world. If you were expecting a more detailed (gritty?) style - I can see how you would be disappointed. Me though, I quite like the direction it is taking.

The demo looked like a warzone.map. plastic rounded off buildings.

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> first time poster here.
> I think Halo Infinite looks amazing! I think it looks like a TON OF FUN to play. I would just like to say that when you get away from the popular Halo Youtubers (more on this later) and twitter trolls, most of the people I come across think Halo Infinite looks fantastic and so much fun to play. I spent 10 minutes looking at the links of anti-Halo twitter posts and I -Yoink- you not, 9/10 users were self proclaimed PS-fanboys who wouldn’t play Halo if they could, which they can’t, because they don’t own an xbox or ever plan to. These are not the people 343 should be listening to, but in the internet world you just see the negativity and it’s hard to not assume these are previous Halo players. I saw literally 1 in 10 actual Xbox or PC gamers.
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> I’ve been playing Halo since CE in 2001 on the OG xbox. I used to video tape my co-op multiplayer games with friends on VHS tapes using my VCR. We’ve come a long way lol.
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> I just wanted to start a post with a little Halo positivity, because the amount of hate garnered from supposed Halo “fans” is just eff ing weird. shtting on Halo has become a favorite pasttime from Halo Youtubers. I think it partly comes from their own superiority complex where they think because they’ve read into and helped curate understanding on Halo lore for years, they think they are the gatekeepers of “what is Halo” and what isn’t. And partly just that NEGATIVITY and anti-Halo clickbait titles is simply going to garner more clicks and views. Which feeds into their own understanding that their “superior understanding of what Halo should be” must be correct, I mean, the view count confirms it right? YAWWWWN
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> These are the same people who got wrecked in Halo Multiplayer and so they complain about Sprint being “unfair.” These are called babies. It’s the same type of gamer who think Season 1 of Fortnite was the best because the player count was so low and features nonexistent they were able to get some wins. As soon as they couldn’t get into the top 20 let alone win, OH it’s the game’s fault. Be wary of people who complain for the reasons they complain. LOSERS complain the loudest. Were you kicked out of a restaurant for not wearing a mask?? oh you better believe they’re leaving a bad yelp review claiming the food was terrible and the staff were rude. YAWWWWN
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> I’m thrilled about the new weapons, the new Halo ring, the new enemy variants, the merge of new and old art styles, the OPEN WOOOOORRRRRRLD format, the enemy AI, the battle pass concept… it all just looks and sounds so good! The fact that I also remain hopeful for AMAZING Multiplayer, Forge and Theater Modes… can only add to my excitement.
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> I will leave you with this tidbit of anecdotal information. Most of the people -Yoinking!- and moaning aren’t going to play Halo Infinite for more than 3 months ANYWAY. Regardless of what 343 does or changes. RE. GARD. LESS. So do everything these temporary fans want? wow. You might get 4 months out of them instead. As a 20 year long Halo fan, I’m here for the 10 year plan. Stop listening to the fakers. The supposed “hardcore fans” who -Yoink- and moan aren’t actually hardcore fans.
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> I’m here for the long term:
> https://i.imgur.com/uzHESUN.png

Dude, that was a dangerous first post. Some people here can’t stand some decent optimism. I totally agree with everything you just said!(especially the jab at PlayStation. I’m an Xbox fan who’s convinced PS came from heck, and therefore LOVE to hear it get criticized.)

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> I’m so glad to see mostly positive replies to my positive post!
>
> And just to re explain, I think constructive criticism is helpful. But I just personally feel like most “anti” statements aren’t constructive. B!#%hing and moaning about Sprint for EIGHT years (8 YEARS!!) is not “constructive criticism.”
>
> I just want more Halo. MOAR! I’m hoping this “10 year” plan is something more akin to dropping a solid new campaign addition once a year, or every 2 years at the MOST. I’d obviously MUCH more prefer an 8-10 hour NEW campaign every 1 year, over a 12 hour campaign every 6 years.
>
> I think PART of why people are so critical of Halo, is how FEW there really are. It’s been 20 years and there are only 7 “real” games (I’m counting 1, 2, 3, ODST, REACH, 4 and 5). But only 4 and a half of those are Master Chief’s story. So they get PUT ON A PEDESTAL. If 343 cranked out more, it would even the plains a bit, so to speak. When COD drops a ‘bad’ game, people just put it at the back of their rankings of all COD’s (I don’t play COD btw). They don’t say OH COD IS DEAD I HATE COD NOW. They know next year there will be another one!!
>
> Overall I think the 10 year plan of Halo Infinite is SUCH a great idea. In my opinion there are some ways to do this BETTER, but I’m sure 343 has a good plan of attack. I just hope they follow through! Stop listening to the haters so much and listen to the lovers!
>
> My biggest point in my OP was that the people complaining are only going to play Halo 6 for 3 months AN.Y.WAY. So don’t try to cater to them so much! They’ll come back every time you release new -Yoink-. Like people do with Fortnite, Apex, etc. But the people rabidly playing it for weeks, months, years – take their opinion with a much higher grade instead!!

I DO HATE COD!!!