"Infinite is a Master Chief Story" is a bad idea.

No playable elites just confirms even more that there won’t be a playable Arbiter in the game. 343, WE LIKE ELITES. When we said we liked Halo CE, we didn’t mean make Halo CE but in 2021. ADD PLAYABLE ELITES. ADD ARBITER. WHY ARE WE GOING BACKWARDS??? This “iTs A mAsTeR cHiEf stOrY” idea is so lame, Halo is so much more beyond the Master Chief (yet he should still be the major focus). Sure, we didn’t like Locke and we wanted more Master Chief, but that doesn’t mean make the next game 100% Master Chief because you messed up the last game. I really hope the idea of a Master Chief story is just for launch, because if this is going to be the only mainline Halo game for the next 10 years, I hope we get more than Chief-focused stories. Having stories involving the Arbiter, Blue team, Red team, and any other major characters that can be playable on Zeta Halo would be an amazing addition. Maybe even incorporating our own multiplayer Spartans into the open world missions to develop our own stories. I agree that Master Chief SHOULD be the main focus of Halo, but having other playable characters shouldn’t be taken out completely.

Edit: I don’t care that much that Infinite does not have playable elites in multiplayer. I never used Elites in multiplayer, as I play exclusively as a Spartan in all the games. I’m just saying the option should be there. And for campaign, I’m sure many people would love to play as the Arbiter again.

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> No playable elites just confirms even more that there won’t be a playable Arbiter in the game. 343, WE LIKE ELITES. When we said we liked Halo CE, we didn’t mean make Halo CE but in 2021. ADD PLAYABLE ELITES. ADD ARBITER. WHY ARE WE GOING BACKWARDS??? This “iTs A mAsTeR cHiEf stOrY” idea is so lame, Halo is so much more beyond the Master Chief (yet he should still be the major focus). Sure, we didn’t like Locke and we wanted more Master Chief, but that doesn’t mean make the next game 100% Master Chief because you messed up the last game. I really hope the idea of a Master Chief story is just for launch, because if this is going to be the only mainline Halo game for the next 10 years, I hope we get more than Chief-focused stories. Having stories involving the Arbiter, Blue team, Red team, and any other major characters that can be playable on Zeta Halo would be an amazing addition. Maybe even incorporating our own multiplayer Spartans into the open world missions to develop our own stories. I agree that Master Chief SHOULD be the main focus of Halo, but having other playable characters shouldn’t be taken out completely.

Less than 5% of the population likes playing as Elites.

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> > No playable elites just confirms even more that there won’t be a playable Arbiter in the game. 343, WE LIKE ELITES. When we said we liked Halo CE, we didn’t mean make Halo CE but in 2021. ADD PLAYABLE ELITES. ADD ARBITER. WHY ARE WE GOING BACKWARDS??? This “iTs A mAsTeR cHiEf stOrY” idea is so lame, Halo is so much more beyond the Master Chief (yet he should still be the major focus). Sure, we didn’t like Locke and we wanted more Master Chief, but that doesn’t mean make the next game 100% Master Chief because you messed up the last game. I really hope the idea of a Master Chief story is just for launch, because if this is going to be the only mainline Halo game for the next 10 years, I hope we get more than Chief-focused stories. Having stories involving the Arbiter, Blue team, Red team, and any other major characters that can be playable on Zeta Halo would be an amazing addition. Maybe even incorporating our own multiplayer Spartans into the open world missions to develop our own stories. I agree that Master Chief SHOULD be the main focus of Halo, but having other playable characters shouldn’t be taken out completely.
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> Less than 5% of the population likes playing as Elites.

You actually literally just pulled that statistic right out of your -Yoink- you know that right? Like first off, what population? Do you mean the US? The entire world? Your comment reeks of an age range of 12-14yr old.

I disagree, I don’t like playable elites and I think they’re annoying more than anything. The fact that they’ve been absent from all 343’s titles, as well as most of 343’s MCC efforts lead me to believe the data supports more players thinking this as well, but that’s total speculation.

All the stories you mention can be accomplished through an AI accompanied buddy mission, which mostly relies on good AI design.

My personal opinion, sorry we disagree about playable elites. I know you talked about a lot more, but I don’t want to post a huge story.

“It’s a Master Chief story” is a cover for them to avoid having to deal with angry fans that are (obviously) annoyed that 343 is once again, not listening to community requests. It doesn’t help that people are perpetuating false and easily debunked information on the nature of the Elite hitbox and capabilities.

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> > > No playable elites just confirms even more that there won’t be a playable Arbiter in the game. 343, WE LIKE ELITES. When we said we liked Halo CE, we didn’t mean make Halo CE but in 2021. ADD PLAYABLE ELITES. ADD ARBITER. WHY ARE WE GOING BACKWARDS??? This “iTs A mAsTeR cHiEf stOrY” idea is so lame, Halo is so much more beyond the Master Chief (yet he should still be the major focus). Sure, we didn’t like Locke and we wanted more Master Chief, but that doesn’t mean make the next game 100% Master Chief because you messed up the last game. I really hope the idea of a Master Chief story is just for launch, because if this is going to be the only mainline Halo game for the next 10 years, I hope we get more than Chief-focused stories. Having stories involving the Arbiter, Blue team, Red team, and any other major characters that can be playable on Zeta Halo would be an amazing addition. Maybe even incorporating our own multiplayer Spartans into the open world missions to develop our own stories. I agree that Master Chief SHOULD be the main focus of Halo, but having other playable characters shouldn’t be taken out completely.
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> > Less than 5% of the population likes playing as Elites.
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> You actually literally just pulled that statistic right out of your -Yoink- you know that right? Like first off, what population? Do you mean the US? The entire world? Your comment reeks of an age range of 12-14yr old.

You know what - I literally did pull it out from my -yoink- … and you know what else - no one above the age of 14 plays as an elite.

Alot of people are mad, some aren’t though cause people like the “I’m happy either way” don’t play elites, but the difference between Mr.”5%” here is that he’s not a total bro like the usual guys who don’t care about elites. Most of them don’t mind having elites, they just don’t play it so when people are mad that elites are not in the game, they understand that 82%.
now these guys are 17% since Mr “5%” just became that 1% of people who get salt from elites.

anyways, the fact Elites aren’t playable is a problem.
I don’t care about multiplayer lore, I’d prefer reading lore off a book thank you very much.

One of the reasons halo sustained itself in the future was from Playable elites… tons of people want to play as them while some people like to occasionally swap between spartan to elite and vise-versa.

The elites are bad -Yoink- villains & Formidable allies, to not have them riles the core of halo into anger especially after so many years of asking for it… they all feel betrayed even me and i barely play elites!

So 343, please consider understanding these simple words “If it ain’t broke, don’t change it.” Much like what happened to the magnum, cool design but where’s the old school trigger handle? It just makes me like Halo 5’s magnum even more for retaining the shape of the gun.

Oh and you guys should probably work on your reasons for things… cause i mean “It’s a master chief and spartan story.”, come on man… you’re better than this, at least tell us that’s it’s cause of some technical issue or that you think ranked will be smudging the elite hit boxes, cause we only want elites for modes that halo reach had and custom games/forge.

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> Alot of people are mad, some aren’t though cause people like the “I’m happy either way” don’t play elites, but the difference between Mr.”5%” here is that he’s not a total bro like the usual guys who don’t care about elites. Most of them don’t mind having elites, they just don’t play it so when people are mad that elites are not in the game, they understand that 82%.
> now these guys are 17% since Mr “5%” just became that 1% of people who get salt from elites.
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> anyways, the fact Elites aren’t playable is a problem.
> I don’t care about multiplayer lore, I’d prefer reading lore off a book thank you very much.
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> One of the reasons halo sustained itself in the future was from Playable elites… tons of people want to play as them while some people like to occasionally swap between spartan to elite and vise-versa.
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> The elites are bad -Yoink- villains & Formidable allies, to not have them riles the core of halo into anger especially after so many years of asking for it… they all feel betrayed even me and i barely play elites!
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> So 343, please consider understanding these simple words “If it ain’t broke, don’t change it.” Much like what happened to the magnum, cool design but where’s the old school trigger handle? It just makes me like Halo 5’s magnum even more for retaining the shape of the gun.
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> Oh and you guys should probably work on your reasons for things… cause i mean “It’s a master chief and spartan story.”, come on man… you’re better than this, at least tell us that’s it’s cause of some technical issue or that you think ranked will be smudging the elite hit boxes, cause we only want elites for modes that halo reach had and custom games/forge.

Lol Mr “5%” doesnt care if elites playable in the game. It literally makes no difference in the story. It actually makes the multiplayer better without them.

But Ill let you guys whine for a bit

theres enough elite threads

If you think I’ll whine about… No.
what’s the issue is the way 343 told everyone why it’s not gonna happen.
that’s the issue with 343, they always take two steps foward and one step back every halo game.

But you don’t seem to appreciate the fun of customs games cause your one of those esports kids who never has time for fun, so good luck with that…
Try not to go overboard on your zealot spartan speech cause honestly it’ll just rile up more people.

take care

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> If you think I’ll whine about… No.
> what’s the issue is the way 343 told everyone why it’s not gonna happen.
> that’s the issue with 343, they always take two steps foward and one step back every halo game.
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> But you don’t seem to appreciate the fun of customs games cause your one of those esports kids who never has time for fun, so good luck with that…
> Try not to go overboard on your zealot spartan speech cause honestly it’ll just rile up more people.
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> take care

Lol I’m not a competitive player and I love playing custom games. The problem with this community is you want everything the way you feel it should be. If they announced playable elites were a thing, I’d be like oh… okay.

My problem is your thought process on why 343 is taking a step backwards. The game doesn’t need playable elites to be a great game.

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> > If you think I’ll whine about… No.
> > what’s the issue is the way 343 told everyone why it’s not gonna happen.
> > that’s the issue with 343, they always take two steps foward and one step back every halo game.
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> > But you don’t seem to appreciate the fun of customs games cause your one of those esports kids who never has time for fun, so good luck with that…
> > Try not to go overboard on your zealot spartan speech cause honestly it’ll just rile up more people.
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> > take care
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> Lol I’m not a competitive player and I love playing custom games. The problem with this community is you want everything the way you feel it should be. If they announced playable elites were a thing, I’d be like oh… okay.
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> My problem is your thought process on why 343 is taking a step backwards. The game doesn’t need playable elites to be a great game.

Look at halo 2, 3 and reach… Playable elites
now look at Halo 4, 5… no playable elites

there’s clearly an audience for Playable Elites and H4 to H5 aren’t considered one of the good halo’s, most people seem to forget CE’s Multiplayer but not the one with elites in them.
if you try to valid the point that H5’s multiplayer is memorable… it’s actually the forge and customs browser that’s memorable. I still remember how amazing H5’s forge was!

Also, i saw that post earlier about being a little bit salty to someone… so I’m just going to clean your act up (I’m literally 21 and i prefer elites.)

If the data supports that a minuscule population of players wants playable Elites, then 343 should say that. So far, their reasoning feels substandard.

Another Elite thread? Stating it is a Master Chief story is to fix the last games narrative not because of Elites lol.

Feel free to use the existing discussion threads on elites for the time being
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/6e35355aecdf4fd0acdaee3cc4156fd4/topics/sangheili-elites-in-new-trilogy-matchmaking/ff89aca2-5e7e-489b-98ae-c58513f99227/posts