Infinite doesn't need a toggle for everything

It seems to me like your entire argument here is “you should stop complaining and enjoy Halo the way I do.”

Toggles allow us to both enjoy it the way you like. Do you genuinely prefer Halo with less blood, because you find it triggering? That’s totally reasonable and it’s a great reason for there to be a toggle for folks who don’t like to see it. For me, the blood and gore in the earlier games helped immerse me in a dangerous and desperate struggle against extinction.

Do you like to have more outlandish armor that doesn’t fit in the universe? That’s fine, to each their own, but let me turn it off so I don’t have to look at it… once again, it breaks immersion for me.

I’m all for you being able to choose to play how you’d like, why do you feel differently?

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Not gonna dispute what you feel is right or wrong for your child. You’re a parent, and you’re doing a good job as far as I’m concerned. But there are situations that transcend that. There are also parents who do not want their children seeing graphic depictions of violence. (Like power rangers suddenly having blood is going to be very different) There are also individuals who feel sick when seeing simulated blood as adults.

I personally don’t like spiders. And some games Are really awesome and interesting, right until spiders are shown, and if there is a setting that turns that off, you’re sure I will use it.

Unironically this.

Sprint on/off should totally be a custom game option.

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Intra-diegetic means “in the story”. An intra-diegetic HUD is a HUD that both the player and the character they are controlling can see.

Halo Infinite without sprint feels a lot like classic Halo tho, and not just because of movement, but also weapons, vehicles and equipments.

It’s still UNSC equipment and I don’t see them put cat ears on helmets. I personally don’t mind, but some people want to keep their game serious and don’t want to deal with the wacky customisation elements that totally feel out of place in the universe.

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No, because then I’d be expecting you to play exactly the way I play. Y’know, I really don’t like Bumper Jumper… Should there be a toggle where I can filter out players who use that and hop around the battle field incessantly? That sounds like a good idea, huh?

And then what’s the point of me displaying that outlandish armor in the first place? It might as well not be in if I’m never going to see it and neither will my team and enemies. Although, it was moderately delicious seeing people complaining about seeing nothing but Default Mk VI armor and wishing people would just stick to the classics. Really shot themselves in the foot there.

Gaslighting - which is exactly what this is - is a bad hat.

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yeah exactly why lots of classic Halo fans are excited for it, not because they are including it in custom game options.

If I told you you could only do something about aesthetics in custom games would you be ok with that? Going back to the whole sprint debate thing.

The arguments presented in this post are different from the one I was responding to, where you complained that having toggles would interfere with the developers’ vision.

I personally don’t actually want them to go back and add more blood, since I prefer less violence anyway and they wouldn’t be able to do that without changing the ESRB rating. But I would be fine with and approve of a toggle that removed the blood that was already there. That would hardly be any work at all.

I’m indifferent to the health bars thing, and wouldn’t mind if there was a toggle, but wouldn’t cry if there weren’t. That’s just how I personally feel about it.

I know the customization toggle is unlikely to happen and is in opposition to their goal of making as much money as possible from cosmetics. I already knew this and have been reminded of this countless times on this forum. As for trolls trying to besmirch the game by purposefully playing with customization off and trying to make it look like the game has no customization, I don’t think that would be much of an issue unless literally everyone who posted videos online turned off customizations, a very unlikely thing. If someone saw one video that claimed there was no customization, and that was enough to turn them off from the game, and they didn’t bother to look up any other video of the game or actually research whether you can customize the game, and somehow didn’t realize that with the multiplayer being free-to-play, cosmetic microtransactions is how 343 will be earning money with it… well, that would be their problem, I guess.

You’re right, it doesn’t need toggles for everything. But what it should have is toggles for things widely requested by the community at large.

What those things are is the question though, since the forums are only a minority.

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Black Ops Cold War has a toggle for Zombie AND Player health bars because old CODs didn’t have health bars.

I get arguing against say an armor toggle, but health bars are a UI element. You should be allowed to do whatever the heck you want with a UI element because it solely affects you (except for the motion tracker).

I think having a toggle to disable sprint when creating a custom map or mode, or an official “classic” playlist from 343 would be a good thing for all the players who feel like sprint is the only thing stopping Infinite from being (almost) perfect (which kinda how I feel).

I think that having a toggle in the general option to disable non-canon aesthetic stuff (like cat ears) is also a good thing. Diabling every customisation won’t be possible of course since the PvP is a free-to-play and 343 needs money to make the servers keep running.

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To clarify, I’m saying I would like to be able to toggle whether or not I see your outlandish armor. It should have no effect on whether or not you can see and use it. Other players who also think it’s cool, will also be able to see it. People like me who don’t want something like that to break their immersion will not have to look at it. That’s a major win-win to me.

Do you really genuinely dislike that I might have the option to hide your non-canon armor, because it is important to you that I be forced to see it? Then I’ll repeat: “I’m all for you being able to choose to play how you’d like, why do you feel differently?”

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Topics to certain things are perfectly reasonable. Hitmarkers and healthbar toggles for example are things that COD BOCW included very easily and I don’t see any reason why they can’t do the same for Infinite.

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I’m well aware. And the whole point of me wearing the armor that I choose is that I want you to see it. You and everyone else. That is the public image that I want to put forward, and I don’t want it limited to only people who enjoy things I enjoy. So why are you kneecaping me on that? Hypothetically speaking, that is.

And I’ll repeat ad infinitum: gaslighting is a bad hat.

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I think more accurately it’s like saying “We shouldn’t have to look at the camera’s battery level while watching a movie,” or “We shouldn’t be seeing a camera crew in the shot of a WW2 movie.”

Both things are necessary to the creation of the movie, but do we need to see them? No, because it would break our immersion.

That the big thing for me. I would LOVE a toggle purely for Fracture (non-canon) armors. No fuss or additional toggles. You either say yes to non-canon and see everything or no to non-canon and see only canon armor. I would love that feature for a more immersive experience. People rag on immersion and I get that Halo isn’t a mil-sim like ARMA, but I like when games take their presentation a little seriously. It’s why I really am disappointed with COD and even Battlefield leaning into a “alternate reality” presentation with crazy skins and even laser tracers in COD.

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The problem with your take is that, if it were shared by the game industry at large, games like Mass Effect or Deus Ex wouldn’t even exist. You have to acknowledge that immersion is a spectrum, not an on/off switch where a game either has it or doesn’t. It’s a valid opinion to want a game to have options to make it more immersive.

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I would love that too. But that’s not okay to people who feel you should be forced to see their rainbow-colored MJOLNIR with an Xbox on their backs and a knight visor with a skull behind it.

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Such melodrama… Long point short, there’s always going to be something you’re not going to like to see, and you’re not always going to have the option to not see it.

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Yep, but I’m still free to complain about it!

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Precisely why I’m not getting COD Vanguard and it’s inevitably crazy cosmetics despite playing COD since Big Red One (only skipped Infinite Warfare). If I don’t like the visual presentation and I can’t tweak it then I just take my business elsewhere. If MCC didn’t have new armor toggles I’d probably never play Halo 3 again with the crazy new stuff. It’s why I’m so worried for Infinite’s multiplayer and the Fracture armors.

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