Maybe it isn’t the weapons that are at fault. Maybe a 20% increase in shields will balance out the weapons. It could allow for the possibility of weapon combos (i.e. shooting with the AR to break shields and finishing with precision weapon.) If done well, an increase in shielding could add more skill and increase the dreadfully low TTK.
i would rather them just nerf all the weapons…that way 4-shot can still exist and things could still be balanced.
Amen, but then your opponent would be harder to kill with any weapon, especially the SMG or Pistol…The Sniper is a two shot kill if you miss the head…The pistol is like 5 or 6 rounds…The SMG is a shield -Yoink!- and the AR is nothing but a waste of time medium to long distance, especially with shields upgraded…
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> Amen, but then your opponent would be harder to kill with any weapon, especially the SMG or Pistol…The Sniper is a two shot kill if you miss the head…The pistol is like 5 or 6 rounds…The SMG is a shield -Yoink!- and the AR is nothing but a waste of time medium to long distance, especially with shields upgraded…
Sniper damage should be increased proportionally since it’s an accuracy-based power weapon. I just think that certain weapons should be shield strippers like you said, not killers. In the end, balance is all that matters.
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> Maybe it isn’t the weapons that are at fault. Maybe a 20% increase in shields will balance out the weapons. It could allow for the possibility of weapon combos (i.e. shooting with the AR to break shields and finishing with precision weapon.) If done well, an increase in shielding could add more skill and increase the dreadfully low TTK.
I will say the time to kills can be devastatingly fast, but I don’t think it’s the shields that need buffed. I think punishing rapid fire on autos at range more and limiting the assist they get would be just fine. I haven’t really noticed anything off otherwise. The DMR and BR seem to be a lot more in balance in this game (although I’d slow down the DMRs RoF just a little bit)
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Agree 200% on all points.
Weapon switching is also a little too slow.
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> Maybe it isn’t the weapons that are at fault. Maybe a 20% increase in shields will balance out the weapons. It could allow for the possibility of weapon combos (i.e. shooting with the AR to break shields and finishing with precision weapon.) If done well, an increase in shielding could add more skill and increase the dreadfully low TTK.
This or Nerf gun strength. This game is starting to reach for the kill times of twitch shooters
I don’t think a 20% boost to shields, but a 50-75% buff to your actual health. Right now it takes ~5 shots from the AR to kill you after your shields are gone. If you miss one BR or DMR the AR has a faster kill time, even at mid-range. This would make the AR a little worse, while keeping the BR and DMR exactly where they are.
I was more so thinking that we need a slight health increase, you die so quick on low/no shields to automatics. Not a huge increase, but a small one.
I think slowing down the BR/DMR(fire rate) ever so slightly and ridding the ADS bonuses on the AR would do the trick. Then again it’s too early to tell. The game is heavily based on mobility so slowing things down only allows people more time to run away or boost behind a corner.
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Pretty much this. The weapon ranges don´t make sense for me at all. Neither the shields and health. When i try to switch weapons, i don’t have much of a chance neither. So you either run or get killed.
Nothing needs changed learn to aim, straif, and take cover. You up or lower any thing you’re going to turn this into a cat & mouse/hide & seek games. The games built around speed. If you slow minded players can’t keep up then go play slow outdate h2.
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The Dmr is already a 5 shot and doesn’t shoot anywhere close to speed of pistol, but you want to nerf its Rof more?
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> Nothing needs changed learn to aim, straif, and take cover. You up or lower any thing you’re going to turn this into a cat & mouse/hide & seek games. The games built around speed. If you slow minded players can’t keep up then go play slow outdate h2.
No, I will not go play Halo 2. This is a beta, and I am voicing my concerns over it. I feel it has the potential to be the next Halo 2 if handled PROPERLY. TTK is obviously too small, and the AR is obviously too OP. We are just brainstorming ways to deal with these blatant problems.
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You & everyone else needs to get over the fact old halo is dead. H5 won’t be a h2 clone so you can get that out of your head. Theyre apealing to casual gamers more then anything these days. It has to be both fun and competitive, and h2 style is overly competitive with little fun why? Because its a 1 gun game which is bland & show lacktivity. Get over it there’s more casual players then semi pro/pro. & i prmoise you developers love $$$ so they need casual buyers.
What ever it is there is something that needs to be changed. If its nerfing Auto weapons, or increasing health something is off. I really think 343 should address this in some way,and give their thoughts on it. If they are keeping it the way it is fine, but at least tell us.
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What the actual -Yoink- are your talking about?? Read my post again. What changes have described that remotely make it sound like Halo 2? Just beacuse I am giving feedback on certain parts of the game does NOT mean I want the same game all over again. I agree, the beta is amazing, but their is still things that need to be tweaked. That is why we have a beta. We give feedback because it is a beta. What I meant by saying that it could be the next Halo 2 is that it could be the redemption of Halo. It could be as loved by this generation and older ones as Halo 2 if HANDLED PROPERLY. You would have understood that if you had read the rest if my post.
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i " ‘’ your h2 statement. That’s pretty much saying you want a clone. Lol go back to school kid. Jeeze
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My God, you suck at reading. Read my last post. Carefully. And please, just stop being such a white knight. We are giving feedback, and all you are doing is attacking us. You’re not even refuting our statements with actual facts or analysis. Get off your high -Yoinking!- horse.
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Also, I am in school. University of Washington. Now be a constructive member or get off my post.