In regards to the ''plastic guns'' discussion

DEMO vs GAMEPLAY TRAILER
A smart redditor caught with his eye, a shot of the Mangler in both gameplay trailer and demo. It shows a remarkable difference in between a two, which suggests that todays showcase, is a much older build, than what was shown in the gameplay trailer.
Now i know the struggle with the new vision 343 shows is tough for some, but unload the shotgun shells, till we’ve at least seen a bit more ACTUAL gameplay and avoid this ‘‘civil war mindset’’ that is ongoing.
Things are likely subject to change in the coming 4 months, and the product is far from finalized.

The slipspace engine is too dam powerful, to be used for rendering cartoon games and with certainty 343 won’t waste the potential that way.
For 8 minutes, i certainly got hit with the ol’e impression stick but i also realize those shallow 8 minutes barely reflect the entirety.

Sorry, did I miss something?

A demo and gameplay trailer? Separate??

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> Sorry, did I miss something?
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> A demo and gameplay trailer? Separate??

Absolutely! A gameplay trailer was released shortly after, showing improved visuals AND a glimpse of the BR (classic halo 2 style) and the energy sword.

Gameplay trailer

I have no doubt it was an older build that was shown today. They should have confirmed this before showing the gameplay because right now the game is getting trashed left right and center for looking and performing terribly in that demo. And deservedly so. The game is supposed to come out in about 3 months and that is what you’re showing people? Yikes.

What they showed looked and performed terrible. Not a very good first impression as far as gameplay goes.

I’m certainly hoping that you’re right because that
I want to see a lot more game very soon, but regardless, first impressions hit hard. And this one hurt a little.

Edit: I take this back. In terms of art and graphics a lot can still be done with the time left. I’ve just never left a Halo reveal disappointed and I’m a little frustrated with what I want to say on the game.

Ah thank god, I was worrying that the gun would look like that, but it looks good now, would want to see better textures on the metal pillars, especially from further away, they look completely untextured from far away. My faith has been restored (at least in the mangler)

My money is on we saw the xbox series x trailer and the xbox 1 gameplay demo

Strange, I didn’t think the guns looked plastic aside from the BR, what I didn’t like was the design

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> I have no doubt it was an older build that was shown today. They should have confirmed this before showing the gameplay because right now the game is getting trashed left right and center for looking and performing terribly in that demo. And deservedly so. The game is supposed to come out in about 3 months and that is what you’re showing people? Yikes.
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> What they showed looked and performed terrible. Not a very good first impression as far as gameplay goes.

It looks the same in that gameplay trailer. BR looks like playdoh.

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> My money is on we saw the xbox series x trailer and the xbox 1 gameplay demo

Would be strange for them to Demo their game with a lesser version though?

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> My money is on we saw the xbox series x trailer and the xbox 1 gameplay demo

Why the hell would they do that? Makes absolutely no sense for an event showcasing next-gen games. Some people need to think before writing…

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> > 2793974233130299;7:
> > My money is on we saw the xbox series x trailer and the xbox 1 gameplay demo
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> Why the hell would they do that? Makes absolutely no sense for an event showcasing next-gen games. Some people need to think before writing…

There is an IGN post confirming that the demo was played on a PC with “Xbox series x level hardware”.

The PC version will have the ability to look better than Series X. So this was probably the best looking version of the game at it’s time of completion.

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> DEMO vs GAMEPLAY TRAILERA smart redditor caught with his eye, a shot of the Mangler in both gameplay trailer and demo. It shows a remarkable difference in between a two, which suggests that todays showcase, is a much older build, than what was shown in the gameplay trailer.
> Now i know the struggle with the new vision 343 shows is tough for some, but unload the shotgun shells, till we’ve at least seen a bit more ACTUAL gameplay and avoid this ‘‘civil war mindset’’ that is ongoing.
> Things are likely subject to change in the coming 4 months, and the product is far from finalized.
>
> The slipspace engine is too dam powerful, to be used for rendering cartoon games and with certainty 343 won’t waste the potential that way.
> For 8 minutes, i certainly got hit with the ol’e impression stick but i also realize those shallow 8 minutes barely reflect the entirety.

Go to 0:36, that UNSC gun looks equally -Yoink- like in the stream.
It’s just different lightening AFAIK, not a actual upgrade at all.

Well, at least the BR model looks nice. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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> > 2793974233130299;7:
> > My money is on we saw the xbox series x trailer and the xbox 1 gameplay demo
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> Why the hell would they do that? Makes absolutely no sense for an event showcasing next-gen games. Some people need to think before writing…

It makes perfect sense. The -Yoinking!- consoles official dev kits havent even been out very long. Theyve been working on a computer that estimates what the consoles capabilities would be, which has been standard practice for any new console since the original playstation. But the xbox 1 is old hardware. Only an idiot would believe that the series x version is at the same level of completion as the xbox 1. Geez, these -Yoinking!- children need to think before they write

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> DEMO vs GAMEPLAY TRAILERA smart redditor caught with his eye, a shot of the Mangler in both gameplay trailer and demo. It shows a remarkable difference in between a two, which suggests that todays showcase, is a much older build, than what was shown in the gameplay trailer.
> Now i know the struggle with the new vision 343 shows is tough for some, but unload the shotgun shells, till we’ve at least seen a bit more ACTUAL gameplay and avoid this ‘‘civil war mindset’’ that is ongoing.
> Things are likely subject to change in the coming 4 months, and the product is far from finalized.
>
> **The slipspace engine is too dam powerful, to be used for rendering cartoon games and with certainty 343 won’t waste the potential that way.**For 8 minutes, i certainly got hit with the ol’e impression stick but i also realize those shallow 8 minutes barely reflect the entirety.

That’s sure what it looks like in their first showing off of the game. At this point seems Slipspace is only being used in cutscenes.

As someone pointed out, real life modern weapons are made mostly with plastic composites regarding weight loss.
HOWEVER. No excuse why a Halo Reach AR looks more appealing and detailed and a bit more gritty and metallic than what we got.
I dont quiiiite bite the " fresh of the assembly line" , either
Also Halo isn real life, but mimicing certain aspects…