In Regards to the Hate of Specializations

Does anyone remember what evolving means?

It means that you change for the better/to survive.

Ever since Bungie designed Halo, they decided they would make the game evolve with every iteration of it. No one ever said that Halo’s MP would stay the same. Many of you may have forgotten, but Halo’s MP has never been unique. In fact, Halo’s MP can be called generic. It’s pretty standard for an Arena shooter.

Do you guys see that Halo has always been going with the flow? At the time of the original trilogy, the market called for balanced Arena Shooters. Guess what? It’s now calling for CBS’s. I understand many of you like Arena Shooters, but it’s just dumb luck that you had to live in the downfall of Arena Shooters.

In my personal opinion, you guys just need to stop complaining and realize that you’ve been left behind. Halo 3 is still around for you to play. So is Gears 3. But as far as i’m concerned, no Arena Shooter has been released this year.

Halo is a lot of things for many people. For me, it’s the captivating storyline. For others it’s the MP. Obviously some of the MP lovers have been hit hard, but you need to realize that Halo will never go back to it’s Arena roots.

Halo has definitely evolved through the implementation of stuff like online multiplayer, forge, theater, firefight and now spartan ops.

In terms of gameplay mechanics, however, each game is worse than the previous one.

Weapons on the map will still keep it an arena shooter.

You know there are dozens of other threads discussing similar topics?

I wish these threads would stop…

Was this really the only way to, in your words, change for the better?

No, a lack of imagination on your part doesn’t mean that this was either the only way or even necessary.

Game play that ruins balance is not good for said game, random unfair -Yoink- and gimmicks are not in the game for the sake of balance. There are ways to change for the better that don’t throw balance out the window; custom load outs with a progression system are NOT capable of being balanced ideas.

> You know there are dozens of other threads discussing similar topics?
>
> I wish these threads would stop…

I wish people would stop making dumb posts like this.^

> Was this really the only way to, in your words, change for the better?
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> No, a lack of imagination on your part doesn’t mean that this was either the only way or even necessary.
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> Game play that ruins balance is not good for said game, random unfair -Yoink!- and gimmicks are not in the game for the sake of balance. There are ways to change for the better that don’t throw balance out the window; custom load outs with a progression system are NOT capable of being balanced ideas.

When did I say these were good ideas?

All I said was that if you don’t like them, you just need to accept that Halo is dead to you.

> Was this really the only way to, in your words, change for the better?
>
> No, a lack of imagination on your part doesn’t mean that this was either the only way or even necessary.
>
> Game play that ruins balance is not good for said game, random unfair -Yoink!- and gimmicks are not in the game for the sake of balance. There are ways to change for the better that don’t throw balance out the window; custom load outs with a progression system are NOT capable of being balanced ideas.

Too bad they aren’t throwing balance out the window…

> > Was this really the only way to, in your words, change for the better?
> >
> > No, a lack of imagination on your part doesn’t mean that this was either the only way or even necessary.
> >
> > Game play that ruins balance is not good for said game, random unfair -Yoink!- and gimmicks are not in the game for the sake of balance. There are ways to change for the better that don’t throw balance out the window; custom load outs with a progression system are NOT capable of being balanced ideas.
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> Too bad they aren’t throwing balance out the window…

I know. This is what comforts me. Halo 4 will be 10X more balanced than Call of Duty.

> Was this really the only way to, in your words, change for the better?
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> No, a lack of imagination on your part doesn’t mean that this was either the only way or even necessary.
>
> Game play that ruins balance is not good for said game, random unfair -Yoink!- and gimmicks are not in the game for the sake of balance. There are ways to change for the better that don’t throw balance out the window; custom load outs with a progression system are NOT capable of being balanced ideas.

Wow really how the -yoink- do you know Halo 4’s gameplay is ruined? Wait a minute, you don’t cause you have not played it have you? This is just your opinion. I’m so sick of people trying to state their opinion as fact when they have not played the game.

The halo franchise does not exist in a vacuum.

It exists in a competitive marketplace, one in which COD and others have been putting up a helluva fight for a long time.

People are free to make a game that is a true spiritual successor to CE in terms of gameplay mechanics and see how well they do in sales in todays market. I predict someones house will have to be re-mortgaged when its all over. QED.

There will be playlists that prohibit the use of specializations, which is something that I have not seen mentioned in other threads concerning specializations. So folks who do not care for this added feature have somewhere to go. (((Shrugs)))

People assume though that most playlists will have them enabled.

i agree, the people who complain about halo arent the true fans. they dont thrive for every aspect of the story and then enjoy creating reviewing and just have good ol matchmaking fun, they rely too much on how it use to be and halo changes all of the time, you arent a fan of the franchise of you think it will suck, your just a fan of the MP and arena shooters, an halo still is arena in its classic playlists

> > Was this really the only way to, in your words, change for the better?
> >
> > No, a lack of imagination on your part doesn’t mean that this was either the only way or even necessary.
> >
> > Game play that ruins balance is not good for said game, random unfair -Yoink!- and gimmicks are not in the game for the sake of balance. There are ways to change for the better that don’t throw balance out the window; custom load outs with a progression system are NOT capable of being balanced ideas.
>
> When did I say these were good ideas?
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> All I said was that if you don’t like them, you just need to accept that Halo is dead to you.

If they’re not good ideas then stop advocating for them, if you acknowledge they’re bad then you’re part of the problem.

> > Was this really the only way to, in your words, change for the better?
> >
> > No, a lack of imagination on your part doesn’t mean that this was either the only way or even necessary.
> >
> > Game play that ruins balance is not good for said game, random unfair -Yoink!- and gimmicks are not in the game for the sake of balance. There are ways to change for the better that don’t throw balance out the window; custom load outs with a progression system are NOT capable of being balanced ideas.
>
> Too bad they aren’t throwing balance out the window…

You’re right of course, there is still a classic playlist.

> > Was this really the only way to, in your words, change for the better?
> >
> > No, a lack of imagination on your part doesn’t mean that this was either the only way or even necessary.
> >
> > Game play that ruins balance is not good for said game, random unfair -Yoink!- and gimmicks are not in the game for the sake of balance. There are ways to change for the better that don’t throw balance out the window; custom load outs with a progression system are NOT capable of being balanced ideas.
>
> Wow really how the -yoink- do you know Halo 4’s gameplay is ruined? Wait a minute, you don’t cause you have not played it have you? This is just your opinion. I’m so sick of people trying to state their opinion as fact when they have not played the game.

You know I’m sick of hearing people like you too. Do you really think that people’s opinion (having played the game) are worthless? Do you think we can’t infer from people who HAVE played the game? Do you really think accounts from RTX, MLG, E3, etc are worthless? Is my opinion of what I’ve seen worthless even though I’ve played every other halo to death? If 343 is indeed still making a HALO GAME then it should at least play similarly and therefore be close enough for me to have a valid opinion. We’ve seen what works and what doesn’t in halo, and we know -Yoink- like a progression system and custom load outs are not balanced based on what we’ve seen for other games.

Why don’t you keep your ignorant comments to yourself from now on?

> i agree, the people who complain about halo arent the true fans. they dont thrive for every aspect of the story and then enjoy creating reviewing and just have good ol matchmaking fun, they rely too much on how it use to be and halo changes all of the time, you arent a fan of the franchise of you think it will suck, your just a fan of the MP and arena shooters, an halo still is arena in its classic playlists

Frankly, I believe halo is lucky to have at least part of a community that still cares so much about what halo really means as to post their feelings for its caretakers to observe and maybe even take note.

Based on what you said I’m really glad halo has so many “fake fans”, for if we didn’t then halo would have a community that would no different than a flock of sheep. Always content with whatever happens. THAT is not what real fans do (and never -Yoinking!- have done), and that is not what halo deserves.

Halo deserves to have caretakers that NEVER forget the franchises roots and fans that NEVER let them forget what that means.

> You know there are dozens of other threads discussing similar topics?
>
> I wish these threads would stop…

That day, may be millenia away.

> i agree, the people who complain about halo arent the true fans. they dont thrive for every aspect of the story and then enjoy creating reviewing and just have good ol matchmaking fun, they rely too much on how it use to be and halo changes all of the time, you arent a fan of the franchise of you think it will suck, your just a fan of the MP and arena shooters, an halo still is arena in its classic playlists

How much do the core gameplay mechanics need to change for you to complain? What if the mechanics changed so much that you didn’t need to aim anymore, and the gun just homed in on all your targets? Would you complain then? Saying that complainers aren’t halo fans isn’t fair. They care more about the gameplay than the average player, which is why they don’t want to see it change for the worse. If the complainers didn’t care about Halo, they wouldn’t bother complaining. The truth is, the complainers are better fans because they care more.

> > I wish these threads would stop…
>
> I wish people would stop making dumb posts like this.^

I wish for a million dollars

Oddly enough, there’s a species of fish on the planet Quazmar that had an unquenchable thirst for evolution. They mutated and grew after each successive generation. As a civilisation they were notable for achieving nothing, because all their time and effort was poured into evolving their race, and they were subsequently called “lazy-bone-gwones” by their interstellar neighbours who had achieved great things to better the lives of many galactic beings. Their closest neighbour, the Lobdem, raged a watery war against them, evaporating all Quazmar’s oceans in the process and causing their extinction. The Lobdem did this because they were sick of hearing the fish’s constant, often a standard galactic year in length, rantings and ravings of the need to evolve ones species. With the fish gone the Lobdem lost the desire to create ground-breaking, revolutionary devices that blocked sound waves, and since their economy relied on this industry, their civilisation broke down and they too became extinct due to the fallout. Ever since then the galaxy has been a slightly noisier place to live in. A shame really…

> > > I wish these threads would stop…
> >
> > I wish people would stop making dumb posts like this.^
>
> I wish for a million dollars

I wish I was a camel…