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I really hope 343 brings back the good old nostalgic Halo feel to Halo 4.

I was playing Halo 3 yesterday and today and it just made me think. Everything about Halo 3 when i really think about it was just great. The music, the colors, the design, the maps, everything.

Im not going to say “343 PLEASE BRING BACK A COPY AND PASTE OF HALO 2&3 PLZ” but i would like a hint of Halo 3 included in it. I myself and probably everyone else does want something new and fresh added to the trilogy.

Halo: Reach was an all right game, i never really loved it but i never really hated it. I played it simply because of my love for Halo. But, it really did lack a lot of things.

It lacked really well-designed maps. Sure, it brought back the oldies and thats great and all, but its a lot better when a developer makes a great solid map. Maps that utilize small things like custom power-ups, semi-powerful weapons like the shotgun, and small support vehicles like the ghost or mongoose. A good example would be the ghosts on High Ground or the Shotgun/camo/overshield on Guardian.

Now maybe its because Halo 3 was my go-to game as was Call of Duty 4 when i started really getting into gaming, but i just want a game to evoke feelings like Halo 3 did. I dont want just a “game” i want a work of art that will be fun to play. i respect Reach’s attempt and purpose to evoke a feeling of helplessness and heroism, but i never really felt it as strong as i did for Halo 3.

I want a game that will do everything right so three, four, and even five years after its release, i will look back on it’s hay-day and just say, “Damn, that was a lot of fun.” And revel in the moments and memories it supplied me with.

I really do have high hopes for Halo 4. I really dont want to be disappointed, but then again, who really does?

A good way to make a game like that is by taking a storymode like Halo 2, multiplayer like Halo 3, and graphics like Reach, the game would be amazing. IMO

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I used to really care about them screwing this game up, but now I have only 1 want. Get a working ranking system so that way I don’t have to carry my team in MM.

Otherwise at this point, my expectations for this game are on about the same level as dinosaur bones. Half of that is because of Reach, and half of it is so that if the game does happen to be superb, it’ll blow my expectations out of the water.

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> I used to really care about them screwing this game up, but now I have only 1 want. Get a working ranking system so that way I don’t have to carry my team in MM.
>
> Otherwise at this point, my expectations for this game are on about the same level as dinosaur bones. Half of that is because of Reach, and half of it is so that if the game does happen to be superb, it’ll blow my expectations out of the water.

But see in all reality no one really can compare Reach to Halo 4 when it comes out. Bungie and 343 are two different developers and do everything differently. But then again they can compare them together because of how they are a part of the same trilogy.

But i believe 343 has learned from Reach.

And i do hope to bring competitiveness back, because it would be nice and it would bring back a lot of the fanbase.

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> I used to really care about them screwing this game up, but now I have only 1 want. Get a working ranking system so that way I don’t have to carry my team in MM.
>
> Otherwise at this point, my expectations for this game are on about the same level as dinosaur bones. Half of that is because of Reach, and half of it is so that if the game does happen to be superb, it’ll blow my expectations out of the water.

Well said. Both you and the OP.

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personally i enjoyed 2’s campaign the most, and 3’s multiplayer the most. if they could bring back the simple elements of both and bring fresh stuff, i’d be happy

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http://halo.xbox.com/Forums/yaf_postst62232_Dear-343i.aspx

Here is a little something to add to this thread. I would copy and paste the whole thing, but there are so many useful comments in this thread that it would be to big.

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> personally i enjoyed 2’s campaign the most, and 3’s multiplayer the most. if they could bring back the simple elements of both and bring fresh stuff, i’d be happy

Yes agreed. Which is why i believe people were so letdown by Reach too.

Halo 2 + Halo 3 = Perfect game. But Reach came out the complete opposite.

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> I used to really care about them screwing this game up, but now I have only 1 want. Get a working ranking system so that way I <mark>don’t have to carry my team in MM.</mark>
>
> Otherwise at this point, my expectations for this game are on about the same level as dinosaur bones. Half of that is because of Reach, and half of it is so that if the game does happen to be superb, it’ll blow my expectations out of the water.

Tbh, carrying your time is pretty hard to avoid whenever you want to win. There isn’t much else you can do. Sometimes I carry so hard that I just quit so the other mates will suffer. How could this ranking system prohibit you from carrying teammates? It happens in Reach all the time, even though there isn’t a ranking system.

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The main thing I wish for them to do is bring back the competitive multiplayer of H3.

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> > I used to really care about them screwing this game up, but now I have only 1 want. Get a working ranking system so that way I <mark>don’t have to carry my team in MM.</mark>
> >
> > Otherwise at this point, my expectations for this game are on about the same level as dinosaur bones. Half of that is because of Reach, and half of it is so that if the game does happen to be superb, it’ll blow my expectations out of the water.
>
> Tbh, carrying your time is pretty hard to avoid whenever you want to win. There isn’t much else you can do. Sometimes I carry so hard that I just quit so the other mates will suffer. How could this ranking system prohibit you from carrying teammates? It happens in Reach all the time, even though there isn’t a ranking system.

Its horrible in Reach though. Im playing against people that 3,000 kills and 12,000 deaths while there is that one good person on the other team that has to suffer. Although it doesnt really matter because a loss will just count as a loss and lack of pointless credit gain instead of downgrading a skill level like in Halo 2 and 3.

Its not fair to be matched up against other people that arent the same skill level.

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> The main thing I wish for them to do is bring back the competitive multiplayer of H3.

Dont forget about banning host booters :slight_smile:

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> > > I used to really care about them screwing this game up, but now I have only 1 want. Get a working ranking system so that way I <mark>don’t have to carry my team in MM.</mark>
> > >
> > > Otherwise at this point, my expectations for this game are on about the same level as dinosaur bones. Half of that is because of Reach, and half of it is so that if the game does happen to be superb, it’ll blow my expectations out of the water.
> >
> > Tbh, carrying your time is pretty hard to avoid whenever you want to win. There isn’t much else you can do. Sometimes I carry so hard that I just quit so the other mates will suffer. How could this ranking system prohibit you from carrying teammates? It happens in Reach all the time, even though there isn’t a ranking system.
>
> Its horrible in Reach though. Im playing against people that 3,000 kills and 12,000 deaths while there is that one good person on the other team that has to suffer. Although it doesnt really matter because a loss will just count as a loss and lack of pointless credit gain instead of downgrading a skill level like in Halo 2 and 3.
>
> Its not fair to be matched up against other people that arent the same skill level.

(Referring to the 1st quot-er) It’s not really the fact that I sometimes have to carry my teamates as I understand this is sometimes necessary, but when you play many games that end up like this, it realy tends to take a toll on your online experience. I mean, I know I’m no pro, but games like that are just ridiculous. I would just like to be able to win a game once every so often by someone elses doing you know?

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> > > > I used to really care about them screwing this game up, but now I have only 1 want. Get a working ranking system so that way I <mark>don’t have to carry my team in MM.</mark>
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise at this point, my expectations for this game are on about the same level as dinosaur bones. Half of that is because of Reach, and half of it is so that if the game does happen to be superb, it’ll blow my expectations out of the water.
> > >
> > > Tbh, carrying your time is pretty hard to avoid whenever you want to win. There isn’t much else you can do. Sometimes I carry so hard that I just quit so the other mates will suffer. How could this ranking system prohibit you from carrying teammates? It happens in Reach all the time, even though there isn’t a ranking system.
> >
> > Its horrible in Reach though. Im playing against people that 3,000 kills and 12,000 deaths while there is that one good person on the other team that has to suffer. Although it doesnt really matter because a loss will just count as a loss and lack of pointless credit gain instead of downgrading a skill level like in Halo 2 and 3.
> >
> > Its not fair to be matched up against other people that arent the same skill level.
>
> (Referring to the 1st quot-er) It’s not really the fact that I sometimes have to carry my teamates as I understand this is sometimes necessary, but when you play many games that end up like this, it realy tends to take a toll on your online experience. I mean, I know I’m no pro, but games like that are just ridiculous. I would just like to be able to win a game once every so often by someone elses doing you know?

Its games like that which are just pathetic. Not one person should carry a team. Its so annoying when one person has to do all the work. Its a team-based playlist for a reason.

They need to bring ranked playlists back so badly.

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> > The main thing I wish for them to do is bring back the competitive multiplayer of H3.
>
> Dont forget about banning host booters :slight_smile:

When do people host-boot…?

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wow OP, I feel like you took the words right out of my mouth. I too went back and played some h3 yesterday. Its so much pure fun, wiht awesome maps, and it’s nostalgic now, after over 4 years. I agree. Halo 4 should remind me of halo 3 more tha any other game…

but i mean h3 does feel dated at this point. the weapons (AR, BR, etc.) dont have the kick that they should. h4 needs to move forward, but i can’t wait for a halo that feels like 3 and hopefully has some of its awesome maps too!

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> > > The main thing I wish for them to do is bring back the competitive multiplayer of H3.
> >
> > Dont forget about banning host booters :slight_smile:
>
> When do people host-boot…?

Host booting died with Halo 2…

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> Host booting died with Halo 2…

No, it did not. It was alive and well in H3.

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> > > > The main thing I wish for them to do is bring back the competitive multiplayer of H3.
> > >
> > > Dont forget about banning host booters :slight_smile:
> >
> > When do people host-boot…?
>
> Host booting died with Halo 2…

Played host booters in every playlist in halo 3. Had them on my team even. Saying host booters died in h2 is foolish. Get some backround knoledge, learn what ip flooding is. Dont make such ridiculous claims.

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> > > > I used to really care about them screwing this game up, but now I have only 1 want. Get a working ranking system so that way I <mark>don’t have to carry my team in MM.</mark>
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise at this point, my expectations for this game are on about the same level as dinosaur bones. Half of that is because of Reach, and half of it is so that if the game does happen to be superb, it’ll blow my expectations out of the water.
> > >
> > > Tbh, carrying your time is pretty hard to avoid whenever you want to win. There isn’t much else you can do. Sometimes I carry so hard that I just quit so the other mates will suffer. How could this ranking system prohibit you from carrying teammates? It happens in Reach all the time, even though there isn’t a ranking system.
> >
> > Its horrible in Reach though. Im playing against people that 3,000 kills and 12,000 deaths while there is that one good person on the other team that has to suffer. Although it doesnt really matter because a loss will just count as a loss and lack of pointless credit gain instead of downgrading a skill level like in Halo 2 and 3.
> >
> > Its not fair to be matched up against other people that arent the same skill level.
>
> (Referring to the 1st quot-er) It’s not really the fact that I sometimes have to carry my teamates as I understand this is sometimes necessary, but when you play many games that end up like this, it realy tends to take a toll on your online experience. I mean, I know I’m no pro, but games like that are just ridiculous. I would just like to be able to win a game once every so often by someone elses doing you know?

Damn, I know what you mean. It really shouldn’t come to that. They were completely useless. Hopefully we do get a better Ranking system that matches us up correctly like you said. Now I understand what you meant. The better your mates, the less carrying of a load that you have to do.

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> wow OP, I feel like you took the words right out of my mouth. I too went back and played some h3 yesterday. Its so much pure fun, wiht awesome maps, and it’s nostalgic now, after over 4 years. I agree. Halo 4 should remind me of halo 3 more tha any other game…
>
> but i mean h3 does feel dated at this point. the weapons (AR, BR, etc.) dont have the kick that they should. h4 needs to move forward, but i can’t wait for a halo that feels like 3 and hopefully has some of its awesome maps too!

At least someone is on the same page as me!

I hope they can bring back the feeling that Halo 3 had. Music, gameplay, and all.