I have a request. For those of you who have already decided that this game will be bad and that you have no interest in buying it, can you please leave this forum? Why stick around if you already hate the game? The majority of these individuals are poisoning this forum with an endless amount of pessimism, and many topics that make the same exact arguments. Frankly, I am sick of reading these topics, and I’m sure that many others are, too.
This forum should be a place where people get excited and have constructive discussions and speculations about Halo 4. This should be a place where we can share a new confirmed detail about the game without anticipating a hundred identical complaint topics in response.
Now I’m not trying to be a ****, but really, there is not point in voicing these same complaints over and over. If you somehow don’t like the game already without even playing it, keep it to yourself! When I don’t like a game I just go do something else… I don’t just sit on the forum for that game posting my negativity.
I know it’s different for many of you with this game than it is with other games because you’ve played all the previous Halos. You feel an attachment to the series and will be deeply sad if this game doesn’t live up to your expectations. You must realize, though, that complaining won’t help. It won’t change the game for the better. If you have something that you’d like changed before launch, I’d recommend voicing constructive criticism instead.
A classic playlist has already been confirmed. In one way or another you will get the Halo 4 that you want, even if it’s limited to one or a couple playlist(s). Please consider this before making more topics filled with negativity.
Well the response that your going to get is this, “We are all aloud to voice our opinions right?”
And that’s their argument for throwing anything constructive about their post, out the window. In other words, you can easily troll as long as you’re just voicing your opinion; not saying anyone is trolling.
So, you’re only allowed to voice your opinion if you blindly worship 343i and Halo 4?
That’s pretty much how it is already to be honest though, the last thread I went on there were people telling a guy to kill himself because he didn’t think Halo 4 would be good, and it’s a similar attitude I see on almost every thread.
Of course, none of these threads ever get moderated, but I’m sure if someone made a thread praising Halo 4 and people started hating on the OP of that thread, half the people would be banned/have posts removed.
Lmao, and this is why our forums need to have it’s quality improved. Instead of just accepting that there are people who don’t like the approach of the Halo and will fight to have their voices heard, we have people like you who just prefer to shut them out and not listen to them. The negativity in these forums come from people who won’t constructively argue and prefer to say trash like “Adapt or go away, don’t buy the game then, move on you won’t be missed, etc”. There is nothing wrong with complaining if we can have a constructive approach to it, but the forums are riddled with immature voices who prefer to shut out the voices of those who are concerned about the game they care so much for.
There IS a point to arguing our point over and over. We haven’t been heard by 343i yet and until we do, we’ll be here complaining.
> So, you’re only allowed to voice your opinion if you blindly worship 343i and Halo 4?
No, that’s not what I was saying. I was suggesting that complaining isn’t accomplishing anything. No one likes to listen to someone complain. The purpose of this post was to encourage constructive criticism OR to not make the post in the first place. But really, though… isn’t it a good point that if someone has already decided they hate the game they shouldn’t even be on this forum in the first place? Why would you stick around posting here if you had no interest in the game?
> So, you’re only allowed to voice your opinion if you blindly worship 343i and Halo 4?
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> That’s pretty much how it is already to be honest though, the last thread I went on there were people telling a guy to kill himself because he didn’t think Halo 4 would be good, and it’s a similar attitude I see on almost every thread.
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> Of course, none of these threads ever get moderated, but I’m sure if someone made a thread praising Halo 4 and people started hating on the OP of that thread, half the people would be banned/have posts removed.
Your an idiot, he said nothing of the sort and you know it. It’s tiring to read OMGhALO4wIllsUK!!! over and over with nothing constructive to add.
> The negativity in these forums come from people who won’t constructively argue and prefer to say trash like “Adapt or go away, don’t buy the game then, move on you won’t be missed, etc”. There is nothing wrong with complaining if we can have a constructive approach to it, but the forums are riddled with immature voices who prefer to shut out the voices of those who are concerned about the game they care so much for.
Complaining and constructive criticism are inherently different. Complaints are framed negatively, whereas constructive criticism is framed positively. Constructive criticism still has the goal of improving something, but it avoids unnecessary negativity. People who give constructive criticism know that complaining doesn’t accomplish the goal nearly as well. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could all get along here? I think that if the people who want changes to the game could be constructive in their arguments, we would be on the path to making that happen. As you said, the people on my side who are tired of the complaining also need to be open to reading and contributing to their topics, but I can’t put up with all the negativity any more. It’s just completely unnecessary.
> Lmao, and this is why our forums need to have it’s quality improved. Instead of just accepting that there are people who don’t like the approach of the Halo and will fight to have their voices heard, we have people like you who just prefer to shut them out and not listen to them. The negativity in these forums come from people who won’t constructively argue and prefer to say trash like “Adapt or go away, don’t buy the game then, move on you won’t be missed, etc”. There is nothing wrong with complaining if we can have a constructive approach to it, but the forums are riddled with immature voices who prefer to shut out the voices of those who are concerned about the game they care so much for.
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> There IS a point to arguing our point over and over. We haven’t been heard by 343i yet and until we do, we’ll be here complaining.
Are you kidding? Hardly anyone seems to have a constructive approach to it. it’s mostly “HAlo 4 iS juSt COD in SPACEEEEE!!!” or something similar. I do not condemn anyone who dislikes 343’s approach, but for -Yoinks!- sake be mature about it.
I see where you are coming from InstantGain, but I don’t think people should have to leave for voicing their opinions. In many cases, both sides have valid arguments. I think that both sides could be more constructive in their opinions, but that’s a hollow dream. I agree that many just complain for the sake of complaining when they aren’t going to change anything.
Many people say they gave up on Halo when Reach or ODST came out. Those few should in fact leave if they think Halo is ruined for them, and stop badgering other to join in the anti-Halo mind set. Halo will change, all things must, and in affect so shall its fan base. Stay on the bus or get off at the next stop.
> > So, you’re only allowed to voice your opinion if you blindly worship 343i and Halo 4?
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> No, that’s not what I was saying. I was suggesting that complaining isn’t accomplishing anything. No one likes to listen to someone complain. The purpose of this post was to encourage constructive criticism OR to not make the post in the first place. But really, though… isn’t it a good point that if someone has already decided they hate the game they shouldn’t even be on this forum in the first place? Why would you stick around posting here if you had no interest in the game?
Complaining is accomplishing something. People do it because they want to make 343i understand that they’re not happy and people will continue to do so because they are still unhappy, and that’s fair feedback if you ask me. The more people that do it, the more likely they think 343i will make the game better.
People do have interest in the game, it’s why they’re here complaining, because it’s not what they wanted it to be at the moment and they want it to change. A lot of people don’t give constructive criticism though because they know their opinions will be ignored or flamed rather than argued in a proper manner, as in, gets retorts other than “You haven’t played the game yet, so you obviously don’t know anything even though we know many solid facts about the game”.
I for one got sick of hearing the same reply over and over again when I tried to give feedback, which is why I don’t often see the point in trying to give constructive criticism.
> > The negativity in these forums come from people who won’t constructively argue and prefer to say trash like “Adapt or go away, don’t buy the game then, move on you won’t be missed, etc”. There is nothing wrong with complaining if we can have a constructive approach to it, but the forums are riddled with immature voices who prefer to shut out the voices of those who are concerned about the game they care so much for.
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> Complaining and constructive criticism are inherently different. Complaints are framed negatively, whereas constructive criticism is framed positively. Constructive criticism still has the goal of improving something, but it avoids unnecessary negativity. People who give constructive criticism know that complaining doesn’t accomplish the goal nearly as well. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could all get along here? I think that if the people who want changes to the game could be constructive in their arguments, we would be on the path to making that happen. As you said, the people on my side who are tired of the complaining also need to be open to reading and contributing to their topics, but I can’t put up with all the negativity any more. It’s just completely unnecessary.
Then it’s negative in both respects. I’ve explained the people on your side who shun the “complainers” away, but then there are people on my side who provide no constructive arguments, as you’ve said. There are people on my side who will say “Halo is now Call of Reach: Modern Battlefield 4” etc and don’t provide any arguments behind it. But stating this and backing it up with logical evidence is constructive, even if it enrages you that people see it this way.
Overall, there are many immature people who browse these forums and provide nothing, but the fault doesn’t fall to one party. People who defend the game blindly are negatively affecting my forum browsing and that’s just how I see it. People who complain and want to see Halo return to it’s roots are negative to you, that’s just how you see it. I agree with them, you don’t. These are opinions. Nobody is right, nobody is wrong, so why blame one party?
The problem is people who can’t add constructive information to a debate, not complainers who want to see the old Halos.
> People who complain and want to see Halo return to it’s roots are negative to you, that’s just how you see it.
As a matter of fact, I would love to see Halo 4 return to the roots of the series as well. If I had something that I wanted changed before launch, however, I wouldn’t go about it by posting something such as “I’M NOT GOING TO BUY THIS GAME, WHO’S WITH ME!!! THIS GAME WILL BE COD IN SPACE ZOMG! IT’S SO BAD.”
I’ve been playing since Halo: CE as well, and I am a competitive Halo player (and quite good, at that). I would love to see Halo 4 be competitive as much as any other player… I just realize that it’s pointless to go about demanding change in such a childish manner. If I was a 343 employee I would read the constructive, positive posts – not the childish, negative, non-constructive posts.
