IMO Infinite should be delayed.

For those stating that the demo build that was shown off was an old build (which could be true, who knows), but basing off of this post - https://www.343industries.com/news/articles/employee-spotlight-ani-shastry?fbclid=IwAR0JG4-o0Yr6PtEjYsxLTMDWsRdfnPbiEYMMO8wJUgO7eHBv7g0Y6bPy_-M

The way he is saying they polished the demo up to look great with good textures and lighting which unfortunately did not look great in the demo at all which garnered a lot of bad reactions. Sure the 1 min trailer looked somewhat better than the demo, but there are still problems with it. (also for those who don’t know the demo was confirmed to be running on a PC with specs resembling the Series X).

There are character models/among other things in the older games that look better than Infinite, but have to take into account the older titles were linear games, whereas Infinite is open world (not sure how open world it is tho, there are however other open world games which look better than Infinite, but they are 30fps compared infinite 60fps), which will take a lot more resources.

I know most people are gameplay over graphics, because Halo wasn’t a graphically heavy game anyway, but i know that most people were expecting more than what was shown. Especially since Infinite was supposedly built from the ground up for the Series X, but in reality it just seems like it was made for the Xbox One (Of course with lower Res).

But back to the topic title, i wouldn’t mind if 343/Microsoft delays the game to make the game better.

Still excited to see more of course, only time will tell if they have made major improvements.

They just shouldn’t release it, it’s already $550m down the drain anyways. This games gonna flop so hard.

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imo you’re retarded if you believe that the game should be delayed over demo graphics from a build that is months old and doesn’t even have ray tracing enabled.

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> imo you’re retarded if you believe that the game should be delayed over demo graphics from a build that is months old and doesn’t even have ray tracing enabled.

Did you even read the blog link?

They supposedly ‘POLISHED’ the demo. If that is “polished” then that is a joke.

They shouldn’t delay it lmao, just flat out cancel whatever this is. I won’t buy it.

I think all we can do is be hopeful at this point. I have enjoyed every game and have to give them the benefit of the doubt because they have gone wrong yet. Ofcourse thats my opinion and you can disagree if you want.

Have a great day everyone!

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> imo you’re retarded if you believe that the game should be delayed over demo graphics from a build that is months old and doesn’t even have ray tracing enabled.

An extremely polished demo. They’ve likely spent more time bringing the rest of the game to this graphical quality than improving the segment we saw, in the last few months.

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> > imo you’re retarded if you believe that the game should be delayed over demo graphics from a build that is months old and doesn’t even have ray tracing enabled.
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> Did you even read the blog link?
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> They supposedly ‘POLISHED’ the demo. If that is “polished” then that is a joke.

This website is the only group of people whining over graphics atm. Everywhere else is hype. Go to halo waypoint and its just people saying “I’m not buying it” or “Cancel it” how dumb do the people on this place get because this is some serious special ed corner of the world over here. ITS A DEMO, do you comprehend those words or are you too dumb to understand that as well? Halo fans on here are just full retard non stop. You will complain about everything. I don’t like the art, I don’t like the story, I don’t like sprint, I don’t like bloom, I don’t like the armor customization, I don’t like no playable elites, I don’t like 343, I don’t like cortana being evil, I don’t like hitmarkers. And now its I don’t like the graphics. Is there anything you idiots wont complain about? Newsflash Halo 3 and Halo Reach weren’t perfect and had a lot of the same issues these newer games have. Just stop your endless yoinking for 5 seconds please. This looks like the perfect Halo game for me and many others yet dumb yoinks are on here saying to cancel it. Why? Because it doesn’t 100% lineup to THEIR strict standards of what YOU think Halo should be!? What a joke.

> While this is just a section of the final game, it took a herculean effort to make sure this little corner of our Ringworld was polished and pretty enough for its premiere! The art, lighting, design, environment, graphics, production and engineering teams involved in carving out and curating this little slice, are nervous and excited to show people a glimpse of what we’re building.

Wow you sure know how to read between the lines. This is why Demos are not considered the actual representation of the game in its final stage. Therefore, even more polishing are at work or almost finished. And if sources are correct, this demo was cobbled awhile back. If they were to delay this game, they would have to delay the xbox series X. Otherwise, Microsoft will have a harsh time with sales.

Someone once said mediocrity lasts forever. I’d rather they delay the game and release something that’s polished, looks great, supports 4 player splitscreen, LAN, and co-op. There was nothing in the demo that indicated it couldn’t play on the Xbox One. Hey, that’s great and all but the demo wasn’t for the Xbox One but for the Xbox Series X.

In my humble opinion I’d rather they release the complete game at one time that includes forge, firefight, multiplayer, single player campaign and all the couch co-op goodness every other Halo game, excluding Guardians, the series is known for.

I fully understand getting a demo out during this time of working remote is tough. Delay the game and get it right.

When was the last time Nintendo launched a game on schedule? I also can’t ever remember playing a terrible, half-baked Zelda or Mario game. But, I can certainly remember the last time 343 released a half-baked, broken, shell of a Halo game. I personally do not want another Guardians game. Microsoft’s PR team tends to overpromise and under deliver. It would be great if the team could push back and get the time needed to get Infinite right.

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> > While this is just a section of the final game, it took a herculean effort to make sure this little corner of our Ringworld was polished and pretty enough for its premiere! The art, lighting, design, environment, graphics, production and engineering teams involved in carving out and curating this little slice, are nervous and excited to show people a glimpse of what we’re building.
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> Wow you sure know how to read between the lines. This is why Demos are not considered the actual representation of the game in its final stage. Therefore, even more polishing are at work or almost finished. And if sources are correct, this demo was cobbled awhile back. If they were to delay this game, they would have to delay the xbox series X. Otherwise, Microsoft will have a harsh time with sales.

Most of the time demos are actually better than the final game with most receiving graphical downgrades so food for fought.

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> imo you’re retarded if you believe that the game should be delayed over demo graphics from a build that is months old and doesn’t even have ray tracing enabled.

If a game needs ray tracing to have good graphics…

It has horrible graphics.

Look, majority of us posting here at least like, if not love Halo! But some of you must stop shilling for Halo!

Do most of you understand that this game is going to release in 4 months? That means it must go Gold in a couple months. Halo Infinite graphically looked worse than H5G on the XB1X. This is not debatable. Character’s, animations, weapons looked like toys, Warthog looked like plastic, the flight, it all looked off.

And don’t even try the “but it will get a day one patch, or they’ll fix it over time” garbage! NONSENSE, we must stop this trash of games releasing unfinished, or worse broken now!

Rumors are already swirling that Halo Infinite won’t have MP when it releases. Ray Tracong will be patched in later (on a console that allegedly has it built in), and the story will be given out sporadically.

Here is the funny thing… alot of you shillin for Xbox, and Halo were probably crappin all over Halo 4, HW2, and H5G. Don’t get soft now.

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> > > imo you’re retarded if you believe that the game should be delayed over demo graphics from a build that is months old and doesn’t even have ray tracing enabled.
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> > Did you even read the blog link?
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> > They supposedly ‘POLISHED’ the demo. If that is “polished” then that is a joke.
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> This website is the only group of people whining over graphics atm. Everywhere else is hype. Go to halo waypoint and its just people saying “I’m not buying it” or “Cancel it” how dumb do the people on this place get because this is some serious special ed corner of the world over here. ITS A DEMO, do you comprehend those words or are you too dumb to understand that as well? Halo fans on here are just full retard non stop. You will complain about everything. I don’t like the art, I don’t like the story, I don’t like sprint, I don’t like bloom, I don’t like the armor customization, I don’t like no playable elites, I don’t like 343, I don’t like cortana being evil, I don’t like hitmarkers. And now its I don’t like the graphics. Is there anything you idiots wont complain about? Newsflash Halo 3 and Halo Reach weren’t perfect and had a lot of the same issues these newer games have. Just stop your endless yoinking for 5 seconds please. This looks like the perfect Halo game for me and many others yet dumb yoinks are on here saying to cancel it. Why? Because it doesn’t 100% lineup to THEIR strict standards of what YOU think Halo should be!? What a joke.

This isn’t the only place you should check Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, Discord, and wherever else the community is. Fact is the game could look better. Even if it looks perfect to you other people are allowed to dislike it. Others opinions are not a joke. They should be respected and considered. I don’t agree with cancelling with it and I’ll be skeptically waiting till we see more.

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> Look, majority of us posting here at least like, if not love Halo! But some of you must stop shilling for Halo!
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> Do most of you understand that this game is going to release in 4 months? That means it must go Gold in a couple months. Halo Infinite graphically looked worse than H5G on the XB1X. This is not debatable. Character’s, animations, weapons looked like toys, Warthog looked like plastic, the flight, it all looked off.
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> And don’t even try the “but it will get a day one patch, or they’ll fix it over time” garbage! NONSENSE, we must stop this trash of games releasing unfinished, or worse broken now!
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> Rumors are already swirling that Halo Infinite won’t have MP when it releases. Ray Tracong will be patched in later (on a console that allegedly has it built in), and the story will be given out sporadically.
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> Here is the funny thing… alot of you shillin for Xbox, and Halo were probably crappin all over Halo 4, HW2, and H5G. Don’t get soft now.

343 fixing something, that’s a joke in itself.

They’re more likely to break the entire game attempting to fix something.

They should release it and let the chips fall where they may. They can’t fix much of what is wrong with it anyways and the PR battle is already lost with yesterday’s demo.

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> > > imo you’re retarded if you believe that the game should be delayed over demo graphics from a build that is months old and doesn’t even have ray tracing enabled.
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> > Did you even read the blog link?
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> > They supposedly ‘POLISHED’ the demo. If that is “polished” then that is a joke.
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> This website is the only group of people whining over graphics atm. Everywhere else is hype. Go to halo waypoint and its just people saying “I’m not buying it” or “Cancel it” how dumb do the people on this place get because this is some serious special ed corner of the world over here. ITS A DEMO, do you comprehend those words or are you too dumb to understand that as well? Halo fans on here are just full retard non stop. You will complain about everything. I don’t like the art, I don’t like the story, I don’t like sprint, I don’t like bloom, I don’t like the armor customization, I don’t like no playable elites, I don’t like 343, I don’t like cortana being evil, I don’t like hitmarkers. And now its I don’t like the graphics. Is there anything you idiots wont complain about? Newsflash Halo 3 and Halo Reach weren’t perfect and had a lot of the same issues these newer games have. Just stop your endless yoinking for 5 seconds please. This looks like the perfect Halo game for me and many others yet dumb yoinks are on here saying to cancel it. Why? Because it doesn’t 100% lineup to THEIR strict standards of what YOU think Halo should be!? What a joke.

Yeah for example I was just re-re-re-watching the YouTube trailers for the dozenth time this morning before I went to work, and I cautiously decided to glance down at the comments… I was expecting to see a lot of angry comments or complaints and whatnot. Instead, I see the exact opposite of what I’m seeing here on Waypoint. The vast majority of the comments were positive or even very positive, the videos were consistently in the top 5 for “Trending right now”, and the Likes massively outweighed the Dislikes.

Which is pretty good, I think? For all the doom-and-gloom here on Waypoint it seems that elsewhere people are pretty darn excite for this. We’ll see if that holds up come release though, but count me among the hopeful.

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> > > While this is just a section of the final game, it took a herculean effort to make sure this little corner of our Ringworld was polished and pretty enough for its premiere! The art, lighting, design, environment, graphics, production and engineering teams involved in carving out and curating this little slice, are nervous and excited to show people a glimpse of what we’re building.
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> > Wow you sure know how to read between the lines. This is why Demos are not considered the actual representation of the game in its final stage. Therefore, even more polishing are at work or almost finished. And if sources are correct, this demo was cobbled awhile back. If they were to delay this game, they would have to delay the xbox series X. Otherwise, Microsoft will have a harsh time with sales.
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> Most of the time demos are actually better than the final game with most receiving graphical downgrades so food for fought.

That’s if they really want to put in the time to really polish out their Demos and to really catch customer attention. For example Watch Dogs. I think we both know how that turned out. Lets not forget, some of these demos run on PC cranked up to again, catch consumer attention. I think if anything, this makes our expectation a little higher and in the end you would be more satisfied the game turned out so much better than the Demo versus you being hyped for some really awesome graphics only to later find out its REALLY not what you expected.

Lets not forget, sources are saying the demo was made awhile back. This makes sense since some of the animation was a little janky, like for example the death animation for the backpack brute took awhile. I for sure would not command a bunch of people to refine a demo for a game so late in the year and close to its release date. Its like moving unnecessary manpower from something else that is much more important. Could it have used more polishing? Absolutely. Is there really any time for it? No, it’s crunch time. We’re almost at the holidays. Xbox Series X has a launch date in November.

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> > > > imo you’re retarded if you believe that the game should be delayed over demo graphics from a build that is months old and doesn’t even have ray tracing enabled.
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> > > Did you even read the blog link?
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> > > They supposedly ‘POLISHED’ the demo. If that is “polished” then that is a joke.
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> > This website is the only group of people whining over graphics atm. Everywhere else is hype. Go to halo waypoint and its just people saying “I’m not buying it” or “Cancel it” how dumb do the people on this place get because this is some serious special ed corner of the world over here. ITS A DEMO, do you comprehend those words or are you too dumb to understand that as well? Halo fans on here are just full retard non stop. You will complain about everything. I don’t like the art, I don’t like the story, I don’t like sprint, I don’t like bloom, I don’t like the armor customization, I don’t like no playable elites, I don’t like 343, I don’t like cortana being evil, I don’t like hitmarkers. And now its I don’t like the graphics. Is there anything you idiots wont complain about? Newsflash Halo 3 and Halo Reach weren’t perfect and had a lot of the same issues these newer games have. Just stop your endless yoinking for 5 seconds please. This looks like the perfect Halo game for me and many others yet dumb yoinks are on here saying to cancel it. Why? Because it doesn’t 100% lineup to THEIR strict standards of what YOU think Halo should be!? What a joke.
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> This isn’t the only place you should check Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, Discord, and wherever else the community is. Fact is the game could look better. Even if it looks perfect to you other people are allowed to dislike it. Others opinions are not a joke. They should be respected and considered. I don’t agree with cancelling with it and I’ll be skeptically waiting till we see more.

If we could all follow this line of advice right here, Waypoint would be such a better place to hang out and talk Halo on. I try and be respectful when I can and if I feel I can’t respond to someone in a way that is? I’ll just try and keep my trap shut. No need to start slinging insults at people or getting rude just for having an opinion that differs from my own. I can just keep my disappointment private - hard though that may be to do xD

I’m super excited for Infinite and I’m fine with people NOT sharing that excitement or even being massively disappointed with it. But I’m not going to start trash-talking them or whatever because they didn’t like what they saw. That’s their opinion and I respect that.

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> imo you’re retarded if you believe that the game should be delayed over demo graphics from a build that is months old and doesn’t even have ray tracing enabled.

Ray tracing doesn’t even launch with the game bro it’s “a later free patch” does that not set alarms off for you bro?