Halo: reach was made by 343.
And Halo 4 made by Bungie.
How would halo 4 be?
> Halo: reach was made by 343.
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> And Halo 4 made by Bungie.
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> How would halo 4 be?
The exact same game as we have seen in the trailers
Now seriously,Bugnie forget the Halo therme,in reach you dont feel like if you were playing a halo,343 return that feeling in halo 4
Probably still amazing. Don’t forget these are the people who brought you Ce, Halo 2 and Halo 3. They are amazing game developers who know what they’re doing.
> > Halo: reach was made by 343.
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> > And Halo 4 made by Bungie.
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> > How would halo 4 be?
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> The exact same game as we have seen in the trailers
> Now seriously,Bugnie forget the Halo therme,in reach <mark>you dont feel like if you were playing a halo</mark>,343 return that feeling in halo 4
The sole reason you didn’t feel it, was because it was just a Covenant vs UNSC game no mystery of forerunner etc.
> > Halo: reach was made by 343.
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> > And Halo 4 made by Bungie.
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> > How would halo 4 be?
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> The exact same game as we have seen in the trailers
> Now seriously,Bugnie forget the Halo therme<mark>,in reach you dont feel like if you were playing a halo</mark>,343 return that feeling in halo 4
Yes I did.
> > Halo: reach was made by 343.
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> > And Halo 4 made by Bungie.
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> > How would halo 4 be?
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> The exact same game as we have seen in the trailers
> Now seriously,Bugnie forget the Halo therme,in reach you dont feel like if you were playing a halo,343 return that feeling in halo 4
I got the feeling.I was playing a Halo game. It didn’t felt like I was playing any other game when I played.
I can agree with you that not everything turned out as well as Bungie wanted it to turn out. I will also agree with you that Halo 4 will be more close to the original trilogy.
> Probably still amazing. Don’t forget these are the people who brought you Ce, Halo 2 and Halo 3. They are amazing game developers who know what they’re doing.
I won’t ever forget what they gift they gave us but at the same time, i wouldn’t want Bungie to going anywhere near Halo 4 after Reach. It’s obvious Reach was more or less “business as usual, let’s get the job done and that’s it” kind of game and while it certainly wasn’t the worst game of all time (it’s decent enough seeing how many hours I’ve poured into the game already), it just…something was off. The MP (at least in balance) was atrocious and the maps were pretty bad (all in my IMO of course). Campaign and Forge were pretty legit though.
I think it was best that Bungie moved on for Halo and not make another entry in the series. It allowed 343 to bring a fresh set of new eyes and perspectives to introduce ideas (highly controversial ones too) into the series instead of letting it stagnate.
Like some activision an Treyarch type ordeal. Fighting with each other instead of realizing halos watching with a sandwitch 
actually halo reach was supposed to originally be halo 4 (im guessing thats why there are armor abilities) but microsoft told them no
> > Probably still amazing. Don’t forget these are the people who brought you Ce, Halo 2 and Halo 3. They are amazing game developers who know what they’re doing.
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> I won’t ever forget what they gift they gave us but at the same time, i wouldn’t want Bungie to going anywhere near Halo 4 after Reach. It’s obvious Reach was more or less “business as usual, let’s get the job done and that’s it” kind of game and while it certainly wasn’t the worst game of all time (it’s decent enough seeing how many hours I’ve poured into the game already), it just…something was off. The MP (at least in balance) was atrocious and the maps were pretty bad (all in my IMO of course). Campaign and Forge were pretty legit though.
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> I think it was best that Bungie moved on for Halo and not make another entry in the series. It allowed 343 to bring a fresh set of new eyes and perspectives to introduce ideas (highly controversial ones too) into the series instead of letting it stagnate.
Microsoft did say Bungie had to make two more Halo games before leaving their contract, so really for what ODST and Reach were, they weren’t too bad.
halo 4 would suck, it is a good thing bungie didn’t make halo 4, I lost faith in them with Reach, they said that it was the halo that they have always wanted to be.
> actually halo reach was supposed to originally be halo 4 (im guessing thats why there are armor abilities) but microsoft told them no
They were thinking abut making a Halo 4, but they eventually decided on Reach. There are armor abilities in both games because they were developed side-by-side.
> > Probably still amazing. Don’t forget these are the people who brought you Ce, Halo 2 and Halo 3. They are amazing game developers who know what they’re doing.
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> I won’t ever forget what they gift they gave us but at the same time, i wouldn’t want Bungie to going anywhere near Halo 4 after Reach. It’s obvious Reach was more or less “business as usual, let’s get the job done and that’s it” kind of game and while it certainly wasn’t the worst game of all time (it’s decent enough seeing how many hours I’ve poured into the game already), it just…something was off. The MP (at least in balance) was atrocious and the maps were pretty bad (all in my IMO of course). Campaign and Forge were pretty legit though.
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> I think it was best that Bungie moved on for Halo and not make another entry in the series. It allowed 343 to bring a fresh set of new eyes and perspectives to introduce ideas (highly controversial ones too) into the series instead of letting it stagnate.
Oh yeah, I wasn’t saying Bungie should do Halo 4. Im glad 343 are and I think they’re taking Halo where it needs to be. I just don’t think people should assume Bungie are bad game developers just because of Reach.
Agree with your point completely.
> > > Probably still amazing. Don’t forget these are the people who brought you Ce, Halo 2 and Halo 3. They are amazing game developers who know what they’re doing.
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> > I won’t ever forget what they gift they gave us but at the same time, i wouldn’t want Bungie to going anywhere near Halo 4 after Reach. It’s obvious Reach was more or less “business as usual, let’s get the job done and that’s it” kind of game and while it certainly wasn’t the worst game of all time (it’s decent enough seeing how many hours I’ve poured into the game already), it just…something was off. The MP (at least in balance) was atrocious and the maps were pretty bad (all in my IMO of course). Campaign and Forge were pretty legit though.
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> > I think it was best that Bungie moved on for Halo and not make another entry in the series. It allowed 343 to bring a fresh set of new eyes and perspectives to introduce ideas (highly controversial ones too) into the series instead of letting it stagnate.
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> Oh yeah, I wasn’t saying Bungie should do Halo 4. Im glad 343 are and I think they’re taking Halo where it needs to be. <mark>I just don’t think people should assume Bungie are bad game developers just because of Reach.</mark>
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> Agree with your point completely.
Exactly. It’s not like CE-3 just disappeared. Hope Destiny is great.
> > > Probably still amazing. Don’t forget these are the people who brought you Ce, Halo 2 and Halo 3. They are amazing game developers who know what they’re doing.
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> > I won’t ever forget what they gift they gave us but at the same time, i wouldn’t want Bungie to going anywhere near Halo 4 after Reach. It’s obvious Reach was more or less “business as usual, let’s get the job done and that’s it” kind of game and while it certainly wasn’t the worst game of all time (it’s decent enough seeing how many hours I’ve poured into the game already), it just…something was off. The MP (at least in balance) was atrocious and the maps were pretty bad (all in my IMO of course). Campaign and Forge were pretty legit though.
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> > I think it was best that Bungie moved on for Halo and not make another entry in the series. It allowed 343 to bring a fresh set of new eyes and perspectives to introduce ideas (highly controversial ones too) into the series instead of letting it stagnate.
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> Microsoft did say Bungie had to make two more Halo games before leaving their contract, so really for what ODST and Reach were, they weren’t too bad.
True, although i lean towards ODST (in terms of Campaign since there is no online MM to compare with Reach) to be more enjoyable and human. With Reach, i didn’t get any of that sense this was a human story like i did with ODST. Don’t get me wrong, the entire premise of Reach is a sad story and on some levels it works but the characters just weren’t developed properly in the story IMO.
However, I’d rather remember the Bungie in the CE-3 era. Those games were unrivaled with the entertainment value they brought to the console gaming world. Sure they had flaws like any other game really but the combination of a rich story, loyal fanbase, addicting MP, and eventually, creating your maps on your own allowed Halo to become as one of the best gaming series ever created.
> Oh yeah, I wasn’t saying Bungie should do Halo 4. Im glad 343 are and I think they’re taking Halo where it needs to be. I just don’t think people should assume Bungie are bad game developers just because of Reach.
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> Agree with your point completely.
Despite my thoughts on Reach and how i feel about they handled it, i still think Bungie is an amazing studio full of talented and passionate people who love to make videos. I didn’t miss that point at all :). I know, should have made that clear the first time but whatevs. 
I think that, no matter who developed it, Halo 4 would be better then Reach. This is because Reach was kind of a testing ground for the stuff that’s going in Halo 4, so whoever develops Halo 4 has that to go off of. Though Reach probably would have been much better with 343i developing it, as Bungie was starting to lose interest and 343i has a greater variety of members from all over the gaming industry.
As far as campaign goes, 343i wins hands down. If 343i had developed Reach they most likely would have stuck to the already established canon and made a much more exciting story. Same with Halo 4, they’re expanding the canon so much with the new books that they can tell a much better story, though they do still have to explain these things in the game. I think that 343i has gone in a much better direction as far as canon goes then Bungie would have.
Bungie is still a great studio, but they don’t belong in Halo anymore. I can’t wait to play their next game though!
> I think that, no matter who developed it, Halo 4 would be better then Reach. This is because Reach was kind of a testing ground for the stuff that’s going in Halo 4, so whoever develops Halo 4 has that to go off of. Though Reach probably would have been much better with 343i developing it, as Bungie was starting to lose interest and 343i has a greater variety of members from all over the gaming industry.
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> As far as campaign goes, 343i wins hands down. If 343i had developed Reach they most likely would have stuck to the already established canon and made a much more exciting story. Same with Halo 4, they’re expanding the canon so much with the new books that they can tell a much better story, though they do still have to explain these things in the game. I think that 343i has gone in a much better direction as far as canon goes then Bungie would have.
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> Bungie is still a great studio, but they don’t belong in Halo anymore. I can’t wait to play their next game though!
I think a strict Fall of Reach game would be boring.
> > I think that, no matter who developed it, Halo 4 would be better then Reach. This is because Reach was kind of a testing ground for the stuff that’s going in Halo 4, so whoever develops Halo 4 has that to go off of. Though Reach probably would have been much better with 343i developing it, as Bungie was starting to lose interest and 343i has a greater variety of members from all over the gaming industry.
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> > As far as campaign goes, 343i wins hands down. If 343i had developed Reach they most likely would have stuck to the already established canon and made a much more exciting story. Same with Halo 4, they’re expanding the canon so much with the new books that they can tell a much better story, though they do still have to explain these things in the game. I think that 343i has gone in a much better direction as far as canon goes then Bungie would have.
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> > Bungie is still a great studio, but they don’t belong in Halo anymore. I can’t wait to play their next game though!
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> I think a strict Fall of Reach game would be boring.
I’m not saying that it should just be the book, but it should at least respect established canon.
> I’m not saying that it should just be the book, but it should at least respect established canon.
Well, the Limited Edition and Legendary Edition came with a paper saying Reach was a re-construction of the events that Noble Team is thought to have done, so I didn’t see the outrage over it and the lore.
> Probably still amazing. Don’t forget these are the people who brought you Ce, Halo 2 and Halo 3. They are amazing game developers who know what they’re doing.
Out of 5 Halo games Bungie developed. Only 2 were actually extremely good games. Halo 3 was mildly disappointing, and ODST and Reach were extremely so.