I'm just gonna say it...

I just, really hate the magnum. It’s so overly used. I mean, a freakin sidearm shouldn’t be more powerful than a full automatic rifle, or equivalent to a long range semi automatic rifle. It’s just not fun at all. Seeing the same weapon used constantly is boring. I know about the 3 sk magnum in Halo CE, and frankly, I don’t care. That game came out 14 years ago and there was no online multiplayer other than the PC version. So much for a balanced sandbox when we’re spawning with a back pocket Death Star. Social Slayer or other nonranked playlists better not be full of magnum spamming try hards if and/or when they finally come.

how can someone complain about a weapon EVERYONE spawns with to start with?

Except there was online multiplayer for the xbox version, and it was great. Do you even xboxconnect?

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> Except there was online multiplayer for the xbox version, and it was great. Do you even xboxconnect?

I’m pretty sure Xbox live wasn’t a thing for halo until 2.

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I’m pretty sure I said Xboxconnect, not Xbox Live. In fact, you quoted me on it.

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Them lan parties bro. Halo: CE was all about those lan parties. And the Magnum was the only thing used.

Magnum/AR starts. Halo 5 is going back to the OG Halo

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Never even heard of it. Doesn’t even pop up on google. But let’s not get off topic here.

They actually pushed the magnum as being a weapon on par with the AR. It only looks like a sidearm, I guess. They made the magnum this strong on purpose, so my advice is just get used to using it. I’m not sure if they’re going to nerf the magnum ever, I’m actually kind of certain they won’t ever nerf a weapon in the game.

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Isn’t really off topic when it pertains to a claim you made in your original post.

Also… first thing that pops up on google…

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> how can someone complain about a weapon EVERYONE spawns with to start with?

Lol. Bingo to the max.

The days of players actually working in trying to get good at games is gone. All people want to do now is complain about things and want devs to make a game catered to themselves personally.

Any gun they choose not to use, they want those weapons nerfed and the gun they use, buffed to the max.

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lol, makes me wonder where this mentality came from - things like: “Oh, i am being killed by weapon XY, so i’m now going to complain the heck out of it on forums, the Devs will notice and nerf, and if they don’t, i’m gonna threaten by saying i’ll quit.”

*…*just freakin QUIT ALREADY for crying out loud!! xD

no.
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cares.

The weapons are actually balanced very well imo. Best i’ve seen since Reach. Plus the pistol has always been like this, and the people who say it wasn’t, haven’t used the pistol that much in previous games, lol.

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> The weapons are actually balanced very well imo. Best i’ve seen since Reach. Plus the pistol has always been like this, and the people who say it wasn’t, haven’t used the pistol that much in previous games, lol.

Do people saying anything about Reach was good even remember reticle bloom?

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You just threw words together hoping that they would form a coherent english sentence. Worry not, I have an IQ higher than the word count of that so called sentence you threw together (I cant say the same for you), and I got the just of what you were trying to say.

Reticle bloom was Bungies way to take away from the dominance of the magnum and DMR of Halo 3. Once you got the timing down, I thought it was fine.

Besides, anything is better than the -Yoink- that was promethean vision and the bolt shot. Jesus christ was that awful

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With the side effect of spamming ending in a lucky kill and thus engagements would run partially on luck. It was considered to be more advantageous to spam than to pace up to a certain range, and that range was quite far. Oh, the Magnum in Halo 3 was barely useful and there was no DMR in there either.

Now when that is said, your first paragrah…

I am with you, people who claim “the magnum is balanced” are the ones who actually overuse that weapon.
Halo 5 felt great before people realized how OP the handcannon was.

Halo 5 magnum is even more OP than Halo CE’s Magnum in terms of efficiency due to its aim assist.

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> I am with you, people who claim “the magnum is balanced” are the ones who actually overuse that weapon.
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how can a weapon EVERYONE has be even remotely OP??

…like, you start with the Magnum every single game in the Arena, so if it’s so OP, just USE IT yourself

I kinda agree with you, and kinda don’t at the same time. The magnum yes does need the slightest nerf, it is a starting gun and shouldn’t be used through the entire match. But at the same time, you want it to keep up with the other weapons on the map like the DMR or the BR, because what happens when your playing CTF and the enemy team gets you into a spawn trap using DMRs and BRs? What are you going to do when the only gun you have is a nerfed pistol and AR? So I think the magnum should be a little nerfed, but only a little to where it beats the BR at long range and the DMR at close range, but also remember the DMR and the BR are very balanced guns so that would be a little tricky to do. And I’m not bringing in the carbine or the lightrifle into this because the carbine is a marksman weapon used to have a high rate of fire and a low DMP(damage per hit) and the lightrife is a long rang only weapon, that also should use a little nerf itself, but that’s a later topic. So yes the magnum should be a little nerfed but only a little, just so it’s beaten by a BR in close range and a DMR in long range.

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Reticle bloom was aight. It made engagements slower but you had to think your shots through instead of spamming. People who spammed at long ranges had a bad time. I thought it was a good system imo. On topic tho, the pistol is fine, Halo’s pistol has always been really good if you knew how to use it. The whole argument is “PEOPLE ARE USING IT TOO MUCH”. Just try to get better with it.

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I feel so old that people didn’t know what that was. Makes me feel like they only know of Halo CE by name but didn’t actually start gaming until after XBLive came out.

Only issue was it was so -Yoink!- laggy that I couldn’t enjoy XboxConnect but I enjoyed playing Timesplitters with it than I ever did with Halo.