After checking out how good this game is going to be I just ordered an Xbox One specifically for MCC at launch and heard about the limited amount of playlist slots that will be out on launch.
I think a large amount of halo fans are going to favour playing one game in multiplayer games, for me I will want to play a lot of halo 3 and I’m sure there will be many others who want to play halo CE, 2 and 4. So I think it’s a bad idea to only have twelve playlists and 2 of which are specific to Halo 3 and Halo CE, and I’m sure this will hinder the popularity of the online multiplayer.
Ideally each game should have the most popular playlists each game had, Halo 3 would have ranked Lone wolves, Doubles, Snipers, SWAT Team slayer and MLG would all be populated enough to warrant their own playlists.
I think it is bonkers to have to choose between either a) Halo 3 map possibly AR or BR starts possibly slayer or objective possibly a small arena map like guardian or valhalla and b) More specialised playlists but any of the four games.
This is important because if multiplayer isn’t good from inception people will stop playing quickly and the population will fall and won’t be enough to support the playlists, like halo reach and 4 the population dropped off much faster than in previous halos as the multiplayer wasn’t up to scratch.
Other than this I am really looking forward to playing Halo without the worry of Cheaters, Booters, DDoS or horrible hosts in glorious 60 fps.
The way I see it is that there’s plenty of time to play everything you enjoyed in the previous games. Just because it isn’t there on day one doesn’t mean it won’t happen.
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> The way I see it is that there’s plenty of time to play everything you enjoyed in the previous games. Just because it isn’t there on day one doesn’t mean it won’t happen.
So there is no reason to address the issue now rather than later when it’s a problem? If it were just a few playlists missing I would be inclined to agree but it isn’t, Halo 3 is still running with around ten playlists and in it’s prime had 15+? yet four games will only have twelve?
The playlists made sense to me with the exception of only allowing free-for-all in H2A. A rumble pit/lone wolves playlist has been a part of matchmaking ever since matchmaking was a thing. It seems odd to limit free-for-all to a single game this time around.
Too many maps and styles may hurt the playlists, such as being able too choose where you go might make it hard to find players to play with, too divided
OP, I think part of that reason is because they’re also re-releasing 4 campaigns which is something like at least 32 hours worth of gameplay just for one complete run through (not speed running obviously). They also need to keep the playlists relatively streamlined at first so people don’t get overwhelmed with options which will lead to reduced population counts in every playlist. 12 playlists isn’t exactly a small number to start out with.
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> How is there no rocket race? A playlist that legitimately allowed Halo to be a drinking game
You see this is the question you will constantly be asking.
The playlist system / rotation (Key work here is Rotation, when they add more, they take the others away) in H4 kinda sucked.
There were days you’d have a challenge to get CTF wins, and have no CTF playlist
If your gonna restrict the content we can “find” multiplayer wise by disallowing us to jump into certain premade games - at least give us a custom game finder / filter for all running “public” custom games.
At least that way we can jump into games we actually may want to play.
Hell, give us the lobby data publicly accessible as a RESTful api, and I’ll make a damn custom games builder as a .Net site / mobile app.
I will say this though - I am happy to finally get a game back that has public lobby chat (voice) - something destiny completely missed (guess that was the Activision input).
The xbox live party system destroyed the xbox live community. I say this because on average I’d estimate 75% of xbox live users jump into an xbox live party before starting the game they want to play. (I’ve been guilty of it myself).
This leaves us with hardly any players with mics plugged in in Lobbies, that are’t in private chat sessions.
Then there is the “Oh he is annoying as hell, lets just jump into a party” stance…
Pre-game “banter” was a big part of Halo
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> Too many maps and styles may hurt the playlists, such as being able too choose where you go might make it hard to find players to play with, too divided
No having a substandard multiplayer experience with too few options will hurt the playlists more than people being confused by too many options, I think people will be able to work out what they feel like playing as most of them will have played the franchise for at least 4 years.
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> OP, I think part of that reason is because they’re also re-releasing 4 campaigns which is something like at least 32 hours worth of gameplay just for one complete run through (not speed running obviously). They also need to keep the playlists relatively streamlined at first so people don’t get overwhelmed with options which will lead to reduced population counts in every playlist. 12 playlists isn’t exactly a small number to start out with.
Games don’t suffer from reduced population counts when they launch it’s when people get bored of them and go play something else instead, it will take a week tops before people get bored of campaigns and either play the online multi or stop playing as much. If online multi is lacking on launch and yes 12 playlists is a small number over four very different games.
Yeah this isn’t making much sense to me. I mean honestly for me if there was just a H2 Hardcore or MLG thats all I need. But if the only way for me to guarantee Halo 2 is to join a playlist with SMG starts it’s going to blow balls. It just doesn’t make a lick of sense to me. I’d rather have at least 3-4 playlists per game, and see where the population goes then cut back, rather than limiting people on day one to play -Yoink- game types they KNOW they won’t like. These aren’t new games, we don’t need to get our feet wet to see where we’ll land. Everyone here knows what they want to play.
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> Yeah this isn’t making much sense to me. I mean honestly for me if there was just a H2 Hardcore or MLG thats all I need. But if the only way for me to guarantee Halo 2 is to join a playlist with SMG starts it’s going to blow balls. It just doesn’t make a lick of sense to me. I’d rather have at least 3-4 playlists per game, and see where the population goes then cut back, rather than limiting people on day one to play -Yoink- game types they KNOW they won’t like. These aren’t new games, we don’t need to get our feet wet to see where we’ll land. Everyone here knows what they want to play.
Likewise Halo 3 exclusive MLG or Hardcore plus maybe Lone wolves or snipers would make me a lot happier. I’ll probably opt to play more halo 2 rather than risk playing halo 4 or something else I don’t want to play.
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> rather than risk playing halo 4 or something else I don’t want to play.
This is the big deal for me, I would love playlists that simply cut Halo 4 all together. I’ll happily play a full day of TS on H1, 2, and 3 in one hopper but honestly H4 will make me avoid a specific list.
They will have to fix it. Condensing the playlists into cross-game playlists will actually make a worse user experience. For me I only want to play halo ce and halo 2 classic. But what if I don’t want to play only 4v4? I then need to go into big team which is cross-game. So at this point if I get put in a game (game, not map or game type) that I don’t want to play, I’m just going to quit in the first five seconds of the game. I’m sure a lot of people will have to resort to this. Back in the day when you wanted to play halo 2 big team you simply didn’t put in the halo 3 disc.
1 Doubles Playlist cross all games would be perfect.
I find it annoying they don’t have one, and will most likely release a statement soon saying, “We’ve listened to you, our fans and are happy to announce a Halo Doubles Playlist.” And then we all act like, yay they listened. Even though this was probably the plan all along.
