I’m calling this now. After forge is released there will be no new in house made maps or at least very little.
Flooding the game with forge maps isn’t a bad thing.
The issue is halo infinite is a game as a service that’s not getting service and forge will be more of a excuse not to make maps.
The same thing happened in halo 5. It will happen again.
2 maps in a year. Forge comes out in September season 3 comes out in November and will have “more then 2 maps” but they will really just be forge maps. (Probably not even forge maps made by 343 themselves but community forgers that don’t even get paid for their work.)
My question is how are you gonna expect people to buy the season pass and shop items when they only content in the game that gets any care are the parts that are paid for.
Yeah, I remember they did that in H5.
It has negative and positive.
Positive: because 343I obviously can’t produce enough content, even without forge on the table for players to do ‘their’ job. So we will get more variety in maps, IF 343I is can manage to make a own playlist with forge made maps.
Negative: 343I start to feel relaxed in this situation and rely on players ability to do their job.
HOPEFULLY, Forge will not be an excuse to not create new, original and fresh content for mp.
Just an time-consumer until the new maps and modes continue to come.
This comment is gonna be kinda off subject. Like many people I’m angry. I’ve loved halo since I was a child. Time and time again 343 spit in our faces and people defend them because??? This is 343s track record summed up.
Halo CEA. Not horrible but not as good as it could have been.
Halo 4 was Lack luster flood was ruined the maps weren’t great. (Some good ones.) The story was OK pissed me off. To put it simply I’ll describe it how I always have “Halo 4 is the best call of duty game”
Halo MCC… Okay guys come on at this point there should have been some massive changes company side. The game was literally unplayable. They released a update I think it was like 3 months in just to make it so you could get into a multiplayer game without crashing and it still happened it just wasn’t guaranteed. Then after a year they finally made the game somewhat playable and just walked away patting their back like what??? Then what was it 3,4,5 years before they started to update and fix it as a apologize. Which was great but let’s not forget they promised 10 seasons of content with continued support only to stop at season 8. Heck the
game is still so buggy in some aspects it’s not funny forge is really broken but no one is talking about it. halo 3 btb still crashes my Xbox even after being “fixed” I could go all day about MCC but I’m moving on.
Halo 5 how have people forgotten what they did. Halo 5 had about as much content as infinite. No infection, no btb, no 5 game modes that were just different slayers. No forge, what even was that campaign. Halo 5 had so many issues and problems it wasn’t even funny 343 has a track record for releasing a game in a broken state then not supporting it for a year. How did anyone think halo infinite would be different?
Halo infinite the first time 343 has given us a good campaign and a truly fun multiplayer. Only to let us down with no content and no content updates for so long. They just continue to crap on us… Halo infinite had a longer dev time then any halo game before it and it still got delayed and it still released with the bare minimum content BUT ITS FREE TO PLAY GUYS. Okay? You are still charging us for the campaign and aspects of the game… How can you give us such a good game and then kill it in less then a years.
Why… Why is 343 still in charge of halo. They have never once given us a quality content. Let me put this into prospective halo 2 was remade multiple times to the pain that they scraped everything they had and remade it in less then 1 year. With all of it’s bugs and glitch’s and faults halo 2 is still considered on of the best halo games hell it was one of the best of not the best OG Xbox games. After longer dev time then any other halo and it’s still trash.
Can you blame me for being angry? Like how can we expect them to give us any more then the bare minimum forge maps when this is the track record. It sucks it’s sad. Are they even adding new weapons and vehicles? This is what 343 considers a live service okay but… WHERES THE SERVICE?? like I play Halo MCC Ill stick to halo MCC even with it’s issues and false promises at least it’s got maps.
After experiencing Season 1 I have no desire to purchase the higher battle pass for Season 2. I play too many games at level 100 with no purpose or reason for overall experience.
I used to sell flooring and floor installs when my installers messed up theirs installs the customer would be pissed and we’d have to get it fixed asap. If a installer messed up a install time and time again they wouldn’t have a job with the company any longer. That’s just how it works. If you can’t do the job that’s asked of you you get replace.
…so why does 343 keep getting away with it??? Why does Microsoft not step in?
I didn’t heck i made sure not to buy the game after hearing about all the blam behind it how it was missing content and i only got it when it was on gamepass around the time of the reach update as i heard it didn’t that many modes and was missing forge like a certain other game
Stick to MCC. You know what’s funny. Halo infinite seems to have brought the community together. Everyone seems to agree that’s its got a great story and is fun to play. At the same time everyone is collectively hating on a 343. The community has been so divided since halo 4 hell since halo reach.
Like don’t get me wrong i used to be a 343 hater and by that i meant everyone working but my mood towards them started to change around the time of the el dewito fiasco with how the said they were going to fix mcc,start listening and support the modding seen and as someone who got to play with gamecheat and postums during one of the insider builds i can see that its the management that’s to blame because the conversation we all had was the most fun i had talking about halo with randoms since the days of reach
It’s just more financially sustainable to prioritize a cash shop, secure brand deals and rotate employees. Don’t wanna say the passion for game development is gone, because Elden Ring is a clear exemption, but all these big corpo companies just got too big and need to look at games as a ROI instead of a passion project.
But that’s the ‘why’ of it.
Why were the original three Halo games so good. Why was ODST more amazing than it had any right to be?
They were passion projects. Tons of classic games from the turn of the millennium were like that while their sequels and spiritual successors being soulless nostalgia bait.
If Forge takes a true generational leap then we may be looking at community made maps that are nigh on indistinguishable from developer ones.
And there are so many talented Forger’s out there (not me).
We just need a step up in Forge (terrain editing, better lighting, fluids etc) plus a custom’s browser plus support from 343. Have a way to spotlight good community content (even based around competitions) and then work with the user to make the small adjustments needed.
343 can then concentrate on producing more Forge content to help make the maps even better.
I got you fam. Let me put it this way if everyone quits because of no content then no one will be there for season 3, 4, 5+ to buy the season pass. People who have quit or gonna back to MCC aren’t going to come back every six months to buy the season pass and play for 2 new maps and king of the hill.
When forge, customs and infection we will see a jump in the player base but it will never be what it could have been because the damage has been done.
If forge was at that level there would be no reason not to use forge 100% but it’s not and it won’t be. In house made maps are better because they are not limited to the the amount of assets that they make for forge as they can just make any asset they need.
Now I’m not saying forge is a bad thing I’m saying I’m worried they will use it as an excuse not to give us hand made maps. Imagine instead of getting 2 new maps every six months we got 2 new forge made maps every 6 months. With the way 343 is with this halo I can easily see them doing this. Not even that 2 forge maps every 3 months. You know how messed up that would be when you can make a working forge map in a few hours or even a great forge map in a week.
Now if they whole game was made via a map editor like StarCraft is that would be a different story but that isn’t the case.
Thinking about it, about time they do add the forge, etc… I’ve already lost interest.
The forge world was something I was looking forward to before infinite launched. Now I’m wondering how many times that will be pushed back because all the issues they have with the great engine they are working with.