I'm a little confused about the story.

Games Other Halo
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Not for the main campaign, but for spartan ops.
The Infinity is still at Requiem, but everyone keeps referring to Lasky as captain.

I thought Del Rio was the captain of the Infinity while it was at Requiem, and that during that time Lasky was a commander. It wasn’t until Del Rio gave the order to turn tail and run that Lasky got a promotion to captain, and took command of the Infinity.

Are the events of spartan ops supposed to be happening after the events of the campaign? Why would Jul M’dama still refer to himself as the Didact’s hand after the Didact had apparently been killed? Why would the Prometheans still work alongside the covenant if the Didact wasn’t around to command them anymore?

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spartan ops is set six months after halo 4.

they call him the didacts hand because the didact is still their god.

the Prometheans are probably serving Jul M’dama

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Spartan Ops occurs 6 months after the campaign when Infinity returns to study Requiem. Lasky is still the Captain of Infinity. Jul 'Mdama is still called the Didact’s Hand most likely as a title. I’m still questioning as to why the Prometheans still help the Covenant but I guess we’ll find out later.

Hope this helps.

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Spartan Ops takes place 6 months after Campaign.

The Infinity has returned to Requiem. Lasky is now acting captain as Del Rio was demoted or something since he left Master Chief behind. (Though, I’m not sure why. Master Chief was being insubordinate.)

Without the Didact or Librarian or any other forerunner reprogramming the Prometheans, they’re probably just on auto pilot fulfilling their last orders. (Ergo, fight humanity, order covenant around, kill dudes and be boring and annoying bad guys.)

Or, more likely the Didact is alive, because we all know that all the main characters in this game break the laws of physics and probability and all sorts of good stuff. Nuke to the face. No problem, inexplicable ball of hardlight that Cortana can make a short lived body out for herself with. No problem. Eating a pulse grenade to the face, and falling into a giant composer blast and into space moments before a nuclear explosion. No problem.

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> they’re probably just on auto pilot fulfilling their last orders. (Ergo, fight humanity, order covenant around, …)

^^this^^

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> Or, more likely the Didact is alive, because we all know that all the main characters in this game break the laws of physics and probability and all sorts of good stuff. Nuke to the face. No problem, inexplicable ball of hardlight that Cortana can make a short lived body out for herself with. No problem. Eating a pulse grenade to the face, and falling into a giant composer blast and into space moments before a nuclear explosion. No problem.

[/li]- Cortana teleported John away from the blast using the ship’s translocation system, so he did not get a nuke to the face.

  • The ball of hardlight can be explained by the Forerunner ship. If Watchers can create a Hardlight shield at a distance, then why can’t a fully fledged dreadnought that’s most likely built with hardlight to a certain extent not do the same? Even if it was in pieces, those pieces can still work.
  • It takes more than a single Pulse Grenade to kill the greatest Promethean Warrior that has ever lived.
  • First of all, the Didact is immune to the effects of the Composer due to his mutation that he imposed on himself to try to counter the Flood. Secondly, that was only a portal which led to somewhere else. As seen in Spartan Ops, the humans that were composed were turned into Knights. So it’s safe to say that the Didact went to the place where composed people are turned into Knights.

The Didact is definitely not dead by any means, so he is probably still controlling the Prometheans himself.

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> Spartan Ops takes place 6 months after Campaign.
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> The Infinity has returned to Requiem. Lasky is now acting captain as Del Rio was demoted or something since he left Master Chief behind. (<mark>Though, I’m not sure why. Master Chief was being insubordinate.</mark>)
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> Without the Didact or Librarian or any other forerunner reprogramming the Prometheans, they’re probably just on auto pilot fulfilling their last orders. (Ergo, fight humanity, order covenant around, kill dudes and be boring and annoying bad guys.)
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> Or, more likely the Didact is alive, because we all know that all the main characters in this game break the laws of physics and probability and all sorts of good stuff. Nuke to the face. No problem, inexplicable ball of hardlight that Cortana can make a short lived body out for herself with. No problem. Eating a pulse grenade to the face, and falling into a giant composer blast and into space moments before a nuclear explosion. No problem.

Yes, but remember, he IS the reason that the galaxy still has life in it. I think that the way Del Rio treated the Chief was worse than the way that the Chief treated Del Rio.

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> > Or, more likely the Didact is alive, because we all know that all the main characters in this game break the laws of physics and probability and all sorts of good stuff. Nuke to the face. No problem, inexplicable ball of hardlight that Cortana can make a short lived body out for herself with. No problem. Eating a pulse grenade to the face, and falling into a giant composer blast and into space moments before a nuclear explosion. No problem.
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> [/li]- Cortana teleported John away from the blast using the ship’s translocation system, so he did not get a nuke to the face.
> - Do you have any idea how impossible that would be to time? plus, shouldn’t cortana have relocated her efforts to uh, taking control of the ship/composer and telling chief not to blow up an insanely valuable asset?*
> - The ball of hardlight can be explained by the Forerunner ship. If Watchers can create a Hardlight shield at a distance, then why can’t a fully fledged dreadnought that’s most likely built with hardlight to a certain extent not do the same? Even if it was in pieces, those pieces can still work.
> - Have you considered that it’s wrong for watchers to make light shields at a distance too? More importantly- even if it was ok to make hardlight wherever you wanted too… there was nothing to sustain the box made by cortana*
> - It takes more than a single Pulse Grenade to kill the greatest Promethean Warrior that has ever lived.
> - No, it doesn’t. Johnson got killed by a floating orb, the titanic was sunk by some ice, batman got his back broken by bane, suns burst. I seriously doubt that he was the greatest forrunner warrior ever considering their long history and his childish revenge plans against the humans who’ve done nothing to him.*
> - First of all, the Didact is immune to the effects of the Composer due to his mutation that he imposed on himself to try to counter the Flood. Secondly, that was only a portal which led to somewhere else. As seen in Spartan Ops, the humans that were composed were turned into Knights. So it’s safe to say that the Didact went to the place where composed people are turned into Knights.
> - If so, he would have come back by now. There’s also some nasty radiation in slipspace. I wouldn’t recommend a prolonged journey.*
>
> The Didact is definitely not dead by any means, so he is probably still controlling the Prometheans himself.
> No

answers in bold.

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> > > Or, more likely the Didact is alive, because we all know that all the main characters in this game break the laws of physics and probability and all sorts of good stuff. Nuke to the face. No problem, inexplicable ball of hardlight that Cortana can make a short lived body out for herself with. No problem. Eating a pulse grenade to the face, and falling into a giant composer blast and into space moments before a nuclear explosion. No problem.
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> >
> > [/li]- Cortana teleported John away from the blast using the ship’s translocation system, so he did not get a nuke to the face.
> > - Do you have any idea how impossible that would be to time? plus, shouldn’t cortana have relocated her efforts to uh, taking control of the ship/composer and telling chief not to blow up an insanely valuable asset?*
> > - The ball of hardlight can be explained by the Forerunner ship. If Watchers can create a Hardlight shield at a distance, then why can’t a fully fledged dreadnought that’s most likely built with hardlight to a certain extent not do the same? Even if it was in pieces, those pieces can still work.
> > - Have you considered that it’s wrong for watchers to make light shields at a distance too? More importantly- even if it was ok to make hardlight wherever you wanted too… there was nothing to sustain the box made by cortana*
> > - It takes more than a single Pulse Grenade to kill the greatest Promethean Warrior that has ever lived.
> > - No, it doesn’t. Johnson got killed by a floating orb, the titanic was sunk by some ice, batman got his back broken by bane, suns burst. I seriously doubt that he was the greatest forrunner warrior ever considering their long history and his childish revenge plans against the humans who’ve done nothing to him.*
> > - First of all, the Didact is immune to the effects of the Composer due to his mutation that he imposed on himself to try to counter the Flood. Secondly, that was only a portal which led to somewhere else. As seen in Spartan Ops, the humans that were composed were turned into Knights. So it’s safe to say that the Didact went to the place where composed people are turned into Knights.
> > - If so, he would have come back by now. There’s also some nasty radiation in slipspace. I wouldn’t recommend a prolonged journey.*
> >
> > The Didact is definitely not dead by any means, so he is probably still controlling the Prometheans himself.
> > No
>
> answers in bold.

  • AIs process information (“think”, if you will) at extremely fast speeds. If you’ve read Contact Harvest, it’s mentioned at one point that the only way to keep the space elevators operational is by using an AI, since it requires constant balancing to ensure their stability. Furthermore, it’s stated several times in other novels that AIs are extremely fast, such as in Fall of Reach when Cortana says that three seconds is an eternity to an AI since they can process millions of calculations per second. So no, for an AI, it is definitely not impossible to time a teleportation to get John out of the nuke’s explosion.
  • The composer is a very dangerous tool, the best thing to do with it is to turn it off. Furthermore, it probably has a ton more defenses than the teleporter system. What did you want Cortana to do? Let the Didact compose half the Earth while she tries to hack the system? No, the best thing to do was blow up the thing to save as many people as possible.
  • Umm… So you’re saying that whatever is apparent in the lore, being Watchers creating hardlight shield, is wrong? Who are you to say what’s good and what’s not in the lore? If Watchers can create hard light at a distance, then no, it is not wrong for them to do so. That’s like saying that Chief’s energy shields is wrong, cause I don’t think it should be right. As for it being sustained by “nothing”, there were bits of pieces of the ship still floating around. You even see those pieces of the ship when the hardlight bubbles disappears.
  • The Didact was the leader of the Prometheans, the highest and most powerful class of Warrior-Servants. Being the leader of the best of the best, it’s rather safe to assume that, yes, the Didact was indeed the greatest Promethean. Have you read the novels at all? This much is clear if you know anything about the lore. As for him wanting revenge on humanity, you do know that he’s battled them for thousands of years, yes? They were his greatest enemy, why wouldn’t he hate them? And now that he discovered that Forerunners have lost the Mantle, which is being passed on to humans, he has every right to want to destroy them, to ensure what he believes to be the Forerunners’ proper place in the galaxy.
  • The Didact, or any Forerunner Warrior-Servant for that matter, is extremely powerful and has very very good armour. If a single Pulse Grenade can’t kill a Promethean Knight, then why would it be able to kill the leader of the Prometheans? Johnson got killed by a huge laser beam, and using the Titanic as a comparison is rather silly, since it’s completely different.
  • Why would the Didact return within 6 months? Why show his face right away? I’m sure he’s planning something out there, he’s smarter than just running in and telling everybody that he’s back to kill everything. The guy is thousands of years old (not counting his 100 000-year nap in the Cryptum), a few months of waiting is nothing to him.
  • Forerunners travel through slipspace a lot faster than humans ever could. The Journey from Installation 03 to Earth took a matter of minutes. In addition, he could easily survive the journey in his armour. If Spartan-IIs can do it in their MJOLNIR Mark V armour (as seen in First Strike), then a Forerunner with armour that’s several dozen times more advanced can certainly do so.
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> > Or, more likely the Didact is alive, because we all know that all the main characters in this game break the laws of physics and probability and all sorts of good stuff. Nuke to the face. No problem, inexplicable ball of hardlight that Cortana can make a short lived body out for herself with. No problem. Eating a pulse grenade to the face, and falling into a giant composer blast and into space moments before a nuclear explosion. No problem.
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> [/li]- Cortana teleported John away from the blast using the ship’s translocation system, so he did not get a nuke to the face.
> - The ball of hardlight can be explained by the Forerunner ship. If Watchers can create a Hardlight shield at a distance, then why can’t a fully fledged dreadnought that’s most likely built with hardlight to a certain extent not do the same? Even if it was in pieces, those pieces can still work.
> - It takes more than a single Pulse Grenade to kill the greatest Promethean Warrior that has ever lived.
> - First of all, the Didact is immune to the effects of the Composer due to his mutation that he imposed on himself to try to counter the Flood. Secondly, that was only a portal which led to somewhere else. As seen in Spartan Ops, the humans that were composed were turned into Knights. So it’s safe to say that the Didact went to the place where composed people are turned into Knights.
>
> The Didact is definitely not dead by any means, so he is probably still controlling the Prometheans himself.

-As far as I remember, the warping technology isn’t instantaneous. It takes a second to come into play. And in EVERY situation i’ve seen, you take with you what your holding. Like a gun, so, he would just warp with the nuke in hand and blow up anyways.
-No, the ship was blown up. There was nothing to power the -Yoink!- field. Even then, how can she move hardlight around like that when what hard light she is using is being projected to be a bridge. How is it remaining intact when afterwards we see Master Chief is floating in a field of scrap metal from what’s left. I don’t see anything else from that ship glowing, or on, or intact.

Also, if Watchers are built to emit hardlight in a shield format for Knights, it kind of makes sense. They’re built for it. Bridges are not made to grab Prometheans or make bubble shields.
-Unless he’s some sort of demi god. (Which may be true since he has jedi space magic.) I doubt he should be able to just eat a forerunner grenade and be fine. Even if his armor is more advanced, shouldn’t their weapons be able to deal with that?
-He’s not immune to space. Warping blindly can be a bad idea as you can find yourself anywhere. Like say a sun. Or be somewhere intolerable by organic life.

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> > > Or, more likely the Didact is alive, because we all know that all the main characters in this game break the laws of physics and probability and all sorts of good stuff. Nuke to the face. No problem, inexplicable ball of hardlight that Cortana can make a short lived body out for herself with. No problem. Eating a pulse grenade to the face, and falling into a giant composer blast and into space moments before a nuclear explosion. No problem.
> >
> >
> > [/li]- Cortana teleported John away from the blast using the ship’s translocation system, so he did not get a nuke to the face.
> > - The ball of hardlight can be explained by the Forerunner ship. If Watchers can create a Hardlight shield at a distance, then why can’t a fully fledged dreadnought that’s most likely built with hardlight to a certain extent not do the same? Even if it was in pieces, those pieces can still work.
> > - It takes more than a single Pulse Grenade to kill the greatest Promethean Warrior that has ever lived.
> > - First of all, the Didact is immune to the effects of the Composer due to his mutation that he imposed on himself to try to counter the Flood. Secondly, that was only a portal which led to somewhere else. As seen in Spartan Ops, the humans that were composed were turned into Knights. So it’s safe to say that the Didact went to the place where composed people are turned into Knights.
> >
> > The Didact is definitely not dead by any means, so he is probably still controlling the Prometheans himself.
>
> -As far as I remember, the warping technology isn’t instantaneous. It takes a second to come into play. And in EVERY situation i’ve seen, you take with you what your holding. Like a gun, so, he would just warp with the nuke in hand and blow up anyways.
> -No, the ship was blown up. There was nothing to power the -Yoink!- field. Even then, how can she move hardlight around like that when what hard light she is using is being projected to be a bridge. How is it remaining intact when afterwards we see Master Chief is floating in a field of scrap metal from what’s left. I don’t see anything else from that ship glowing, or on, or intact.
>
> Also, if Watchers are built to emit hardlight in a shield format for Knights, it kind of makes sense. They’re built for it. Bridges are not made to grab Prometheans or make bubble shields.
> -Unless he’s some sort of demi god. (Which may be true since he has jedi space magic.) I doubt he should be able to just eat a forerunner grenade and be fine. Even if his armor is more advanced, shouldn’t their weapons be able to deal with that?
> -He’s not immune to space. Warping blindly can be a bad idea as you can find yourself anywhere. Like say a sun. Or be somewhere intolerable by organic life.

  • Once you touch a teleporter, do you not instantly get taken to wherever you are? It’d be simple for Cortana to calculate the amount of time between pressing the button and detonation, or even between John moving his arm to detonation, and take him away at the right time.
  • Just because the ship is in pieces, it doesn’t mean that those pieces don’t have a bit of juice left in them. Seeing as how Cortana disappeared after a few moments, it’s safe to say that the power was drained during that time where they got to talk. Also, just because Cortana showed herself to the Didact using the bridge, it doesn’t mean that it was the only part of the ship she had access to. She was inside the ship and all of its systems, who’s to say that there aren’t any other areas of the ship that are designed to project hardlight? Not to mention that we only see a minute part of the debris field too. The ship was massive, it’s unlikely that a single nuke would disintegrate a whole Forerunner ship.
  • He doesn’t have Jedi space magic, the ability to move around the chief was due to gravity fields that he could control with his armour. Anti-gravity is not a new concept to the Forerunners by any means, it shouldn’t come as a shock that they can use it freely like so.
  • Remember that the Pulse Grenade, as well as many Forerunner weapons seen in the games, were designed to fight the Flood, not fully armoured Prometheans. Forerunners didn’t fight amongst themselves, so why create weapons to kill each other?
  • The Composer was sending it’s composed data into the portal, why would the destination be random by any means? It’s obvious that the portal would lead to a Forerunner facility, possibly on Requiem, that would turn the data into Promethean Knights. The Didact wouldn’t end up in a sun.
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> Do you have any idea how impossible that would be to time? plus, shouldn’t cortana have relocated her efforts to uh, taking control of the ship/composer and telling chief not to blow up an insanely valuable asset?

Cortana was rampant and split into multiple different rampant fragments. It was extremely difficult for her to think, which she admits earlier in the level. Instead of trying to stop the Composer, (who knows how long that would have taken and the beam was already in the process of composing a major city), she decided to focus all of her attention of making sure John survived. Shutting the Composer down wasn’t necessarily important because his Nuke was to take care of that.

> Have you considered that it’s wrong for watchers to make light shields at a distance too? More importantly- even if it was ok to make hardlight wherever you wanted too… there was nothing to sustain the box made by cortana

No because Forerunner are 100,000 years more advanced than we are. Humans are Tier 3, Forerunner are at Tier 1. Of course it is beyond our current comprehension.

> No, it doesn’t. Johnson got killed by a floating orb, the titanic was sunk by some ice, batman got his back broken by bane, suns burst. I seriously doubt that he was the greatest forrunner warrior ever considering their long history and his childish revenge plans against the humans who’ve done nothing to him.

You don’t know anything about Forerunner Armor Classification do you? The Spartan’s MJOLNIR Armor under Forerunner Classification is Class 2. Promethean Warriors were ordered to be rated at least a Class 12 which would mean Promethean Armor is far superior to anything the Chief, (definitely Johnson), was wearing. Seeing as the Didact is leader of all Prometheans I’m sure he is wearing something far more sophisticated than the base minimum as well which means his armor could be extremely resilient.

> If so, he would have come back by now. There’s also some nasty radiation in slipspace. I wouldn’t recommend a prolonged journey.

The UNSC at Tier 3 was capable of fighting in Slipspace, (See: First Strike), but MJOLNIR Mark VII armor was being designed to launch Spartans into Slipspace safely for travel without a ship or a drop pod so if they believed it was capable of being done, I think a Tier 1 civilization like the Forerunner would have no problem surviving it. They were masters of Slipspace you know, so much so that they even outsmarted the Tier 1 Humans when it came to Slipspace travel.

> -As far as I remember, the warping technology isn’t instantaneous. It takes a second to come into play. And in EVERY situation i’ve seen, you take with you what your holding. Like a gun, so, he would just warp with the nuke in hand and blow up anyways.

The Master Chief didn’t activate the bomb, he armed it. Cortana says earlier in the game…

“Chief, once that warhead is primed, the window for getting out of here is going to be pretty slim.”

Slim, but there was a moment of escape before the bomb actually exploded. Concept art clearly shows the Chief was outside of it before the Ship exploded and Cortana’s dialog specifically says she saved some of herself to get him off the ship.

> -No, the ship was blown up. There was nothing to power the -Yoink!- field. Even then, how can she move hardlight around like that when what hard light she is using is being projected to be a bridge. How is it remaining intact when afterwards we see Master Chief is floating in a field of scrap metal from what’s left. I don’t see anything else from that ship glowing, or on, or intact.

The ship hadn’t exploded yet and he was not floating in a field of scraps. You can see stars outside of the Shield with no debris around. After Cortana leaves you then start to see debris raining down around him. That is the indication that the ship has now exploded and the shield then fades away because there is nothing left to power it.

She didn’t use the Bridge, she just used Hardlight. Forerunner ships are made of a great deal of Hardlight. She could have projected it from just about anywhere off the ship.

> -Unless he’s some sort of demi god. (Which may be true since he has jedi space magic.) I doubt he should be able to just eat a forerunner grenade and be fine. Even if his armor is more advanced, shouldn’t their weapons be able to deal with that?

He would be wounded, no doubt, but he could still survive it.

> -He’s not immune to space. Warping blindly can be a bad idea as you can find yourself anywhere. Like say a sun. Or be somewhere intolerable by organic life.

He wouldn’t have warped blindly he would have gone where ever the ship was designed to send them.

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> http://www.halopedia.org/

> The Master Chief didn’t activate the bomb, he armed it. Cortana says earlier in the game…
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> “Chief, once that warhead is primed, the window for getting out of here is going to be pretty slim.”
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> Slim, but there was a moment of escape before the bomb actually exploded. Concept art clearly shows the Chief was outside of it before the Ship exploded and Cortana’s dialog specifically says she saved some of herself to get him off the ship.

both the halopedia and that concept art clears alot questions for me.

But you have to admit it, the game does do a poor job at illustrating to the player that he had a split second to be teleported off the ship and away from the nuke. Something like that, along with Cortana’s harlight bubble shield should be explained better in game.

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> > -As far as I remember, the warping technology isn’t instantaneous. It takes a second to come into play. And in EVERY situation i’ve seen, you take with you what your holding. Like a gun, so, he would just warp with the nuke in hand and blow up anyways.
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> The Master Chief didn’t activate the bomb, he armed it. Cortana says earlier in the game…
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> “Chief, once that warhead is primed, the window for getting out of here is going to be pretty slim.”
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> Slim, but there was a moment of escape before the bomb actually exploded. Concept art clearly shows the Chief was outside of it before the Ship exploded and Cortana’s dialog specifically says she saved some of herself to get him off the ship.
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> <mark>The game itself says detonate nuke. Not arm. And as explosion sound is heard immediately. I’m pretty sure he arms it after he pulls the little thing on the top and twists it slightly.</mark>
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> > -No, the ship was blown up. There was nothing to power the -Yoink!- field. Even then, how can she move hardlight around like that when what hard light she is using is being projected to be a bridge. How is it remaining intact when afterwards we see Master Chief is floating in a field of scrap metal from what’s left. I don’t see anything else from that ship glowing, or on, or intact.
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> The ship hadn’t exploded yet and he was not floating in a field of scraps. You can see stars outside of the Shield with no debris around. After Cortana leaves you then start to see debris raining down around him. That is the indication that the ship has now exploded and the shield then fades away because there is nothing left to power it.
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> She didn’t use the Bridge, she just used Hardlight. Forerunner ships are made of a great deal of Hardlight. She could have projected it from just about anywhere off the ship.
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> <mark>And as far as I could see, she WAS manipulating the bridge prior to have little copies of herself and restrain the Didact.</mark>
> <mark>As for the explosion, looking back at the cutscene, I see what you mean… Until he looks up afterwards and it lights up like it does before he mysteriously appeared in space.</mark>
> <mark>However, it still doesn’t change that he detonated it, then seemingly appears a few minutes earlier in time outside of the ship to be completely safe. The cutscene isn’t that well done, as it’s a bit confusing on exactly what the hell happened.</mark>
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> > -Unless he’s some sort of demi god. (Which may be true since he has jedi space magic.) I doubt he should be able to just eat a forerunner grenade and be fine. Even if his armor is more advanced, shouldn’t their weapons be able to deal with that?
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> He would be wounded, no doubt, but he could still survive it.
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> <mark>True.</mark>
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> > -He’s not immune to space. Warping blindly can be a bad idea as you can find yourself anywhere. Like say a sun. Or be somewhere intolerable by organic life.
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> He wouldn’t have warped blindly he would have gone where ever the ship was designed to send them.
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> <mark>If he was sending the composed data back to Requiem, would that really make it trip safe for a living being? Sure, he may be being sent back to the planet, doesn’t me he still couldn’t be splattered on the side of the planet.</mark>
> <mark>Especially since I doubt he planned to ever have to use it, I don’t think it would be sending him anywhere safe.</mark>

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I’d like to thank the first three people who responded.
:confused: I’m kinda surprised by the weird turn this topic took, but w/e

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Took me a bit but I read everyones posts, sure is a big text wall festival.