Before I start let me make it clear I am still confident Halo 4 can be a great game. We all know it has its problems, some more serious than others which will hopefully be addressed with the first TU.
With that being said there is one area an update won’t have any impact on - maps.
Ever since 2007, the maps being created in the Halo series have lost their touch. Take a look at Halo 4, there are three maps consistently voted for in the map rotation (Ragnarok, Exile, Haven). Ragnarok is a remake, so of the 10 maps that shipped with this game 2 are liked by the community. The others are utter garbage. I don’t even know the names of the two outdoor winter maps that were specifically designed for Dominion, talk about a waste of time and resources. Now we have the Crimson Map Pack on the horizon, which includes no remakes. All three maps are mid to large in size with vehicles (as if there aren’t enough large maps already). For the 3,000 people who play Dominion, I have exciting news! One of the maps in the new map pack was designed just for you!
There are so many memorable maps from the first 3 Halo games. It’s baffling at how poorly designed the maps have become over the past 5 years.
With the exception of Exile and Haven your maps are bad. You have already ruined the Crimson Map Pack by following the same trend, so please take our advice and create remakes for your last two map packs. And by remakes I mean no alterations, you did a great job with Ragnarok.
I leave you with this great video from IGN highlighting the top 10 maps of all time, sure there can be some debate of a map or two that didn’t make the cut, but the bottom line is these maps were all fantastic and created so many iconic moments throughout the years, the same can’t be said with any maps released in the last 5 years.
-Exile
-Complex
-Longbow
-Haven(depends on gametype)
That’s it for me. I love Dominion, BTB and SWAT. I play the occasional Infinity Slayer, but it’s meh.
I would love to have some more smaller maps for SWAT, but then I want some more vehicle warfare for BTB and Dominion. It just seems that we got semi-large maps, but they are really mid sized at best because the actual playing field is small.
Then we have maps like Haven that are just too small for 4v4, but are too big for 2v2. I just don’t understand why they didn’t do a public Beta…this would have ALL been resolved and fixed by now.
agreed. There are very few maps that are really good in Halo 4. I bet if we start a petition 343i will give us remakes of at least a few of our favorite classic maps
Honestly i really don’t see why they even bother with giving us new maps these days. Halo has enough amazing map spaces from each game (hey even reach had a couple of decent maps in the DLC) that they could just give us remakes all day and few people would complain, barring the obvious “343 y u take lazy route nd nit gig uS nu mapz?”
Some small symmetrical 2-4 player maps would be lovely, but I generally appreciate the maps. They all have different feels to them unlike the Reach palette. The Reach maps had a very monogamous look and you always felt like you were in the same place especially when the Forge maps became popular. But I really enjoy the Halo 4 maps, I would appreciate seeing more cycled into the playlists. Impact is a great map, very much in the same vein as Warlock and Wizard.
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> It doesn’t necessarily say they are bad, but only 1 map in the past 5 years made the top 10 maps of all time list, and it was #10 on the list. The maps have followed the same pattern and lack of quality ever since post H3.
> agreed. There are very few maps that are really good in Halo 4. I bet if we start a petition 343i will give us remakes of at least a few of our favorite classic maps
The problem is that a lot of the classic maps won’t work well with sprint and AAs. The Pit was a great map, but imagine it with people using sprint and jet packs, for example. It wouldn’t play at all the same.
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> 343i needs to STOP with the campaign theme maps…I blame Bungie for starting this god awful idea with Reach. They are way too large.
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> This whole idea of tying Campaign into Multiplayer will continue to RUIN Halo. Halo2 multiplayer had the right idea.
What are you talking about? Halo 4 doesn’t have a single map that appears in the campaign.
The only bad maps in Halo 4 are Complex and Exile, everything else is playable and some are even excellent like Haven & Adrift. Still a Halo 2 & 3 map pack would be awesome and the list of great maps those games had is so vast that you could easily round up five to ten remakes.
> > agreed. There are very few maps that are really good in Halo 4. I bet if we start a petition 343i will give us remakes of at least a few of our favorite classic maps
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> The problem is that a lot of the classic maps won’t work well with sprint and AAs. The Pit was a great map, but imagine it with people using sprint and jet packs, for example. It wouldn’t play at all the same.
This exactly.
I like Halo 4’s maps. They all suit certain gametypes extremely well. There are only a few remake maps that could match this, and not many of them are small. (Ascension and Zanzibar come to mind).
Here’s an idea: how about we try out the Crimson Map pack first before we start making all these premature judgments? I know that is a near impossible task for this community, but please, show some patience.