If youre gonna copy COD elements, do it right

Well, at first I would say don’t copy it at all, but I don’t think Microsoft will pass the chance at making money off COD’s playerbase. It’s something we have to live with, the era of Halo being a 100% arena shooter has passed. But CoD has perfected their formula throughout many titles, so if you’re going to copy it, don’t half- -Yoink- it.

  1. Ordinance Drops ~ Care Packages

Care packages have an inherent weakness/risk (which is why not everyone uses it):
-it can be stolen,
- it has to be dropped out in the open (vulnerable) for it to drop from the sky,
-it has a delay before it finally drops,
-its drop location is shown on the minimap to enemies.

Ordinance drops are instant, can be called anywhere, and they don’t have an map/HUD indicator of where enemy ODs are dropped.

If you’re going to add ODs to the game, give them a cost/benefit risk. Make an announcement to the whole arena that an ordinance drop is coming to this location (O). Maybe even announce if it is going to be a super power weapon (ie. binary, rocket launcher, inc cannon). This will add more map movement and a struggle/defense for each team’s OD called onto the map. At least you’ll know which direction an enemy RL will be coming from.

Also, decrease the %chance of getting the best power weapons (snipers,heavies). There’s a reason why you have a 45% chance of getting only ammo crate, UAV or counterUAV in call of duty. With ordinance drops, not only can you just neglect the bad weapons because you have 2 other options to choose from, but the best power weapon %chances are all multiplied by 3.

  1. Tactical/Support Mod ~ Perks

I actually think the mods are well done-- apart from the whole fiasco of specializations emails and restricting European/UK/etc players from 6 specn mods. No one wants to feel disadvantaged, or that it is not a level playing field with mods unlocked for only a certain group of people.

I actually think there should be a third tier of mods-- non-gameplay mods. Fast track (Higher XP gains) should be in this category, since it only affects things outside of gameplay. Other possible mods in this category could be speeding up the requirement for certain armor, helmets, achievements etc, adding skins to hardliteshield/helmets/weapons in-game

Loadouts ~ Loadouts

This was done very well, because you can modify your classes in-game. The only issue I have is that there is a limited number of loadouts (maybe unlock 1 more loadout slot per specialization) and limited options for loadout (people rarely venture outside of DMR/boltshot, I haven’t seen carbine/stormrifle in ages).

It is not a bad thing to borrow ideas from great games (I’m not saying COD is great), developers do it all the time, but make sure you do it the right way. Constructive criticism please

anyone agree/disagree?

Nope

Uhm… What? Ordinance CAN be stolen, and it is out in the open (depending on where you call it in).

Your entire thread is kind of pointless. Ordinance is not copying Care Packages. They work completely differently.

As for Perks and loadouts, you say they are implimented well, so why add it to the list of things 343 “did not implement correctly from CoD”?

Kill cams should show the perks the players are using just like CoD. That’s all I care for…

It is not copied from COD, you thick moron, how many times do I have to say this to the idiots who are part of this community… Jesus christ

> It is not copied from COD, you thick moron, how many times do I have to say this to the idiots who are part of this community… Jesus christ

Ordinance drops = copied from CoD
Mobility = copied from CoD
Loadouts = copied from CoD
XP progression = copied from CoD
Kill Cam = guess what
Spartan Ops = lol
Tracker mod = this game sucks
Same-y weapon sandbox dominated by automatics and long range rifles = now go away

> > It is not copied from COD, you thick moron, how many times do I have to say this to the idiots who are part of this community… Jesus christ
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> Ordinance drops = copied from CoD
> Mobility = copied from CoD
> Loadouts = copied from CoD
> XP progression = copied from CoD
> Kill Cam = guess what
> Spartan Ops = lol
> Tracker mod = this game sucks
> Same-y weapon sandbox dominated by automatics and long range rifles = now go away

Ordinance drops - random weapon drops from gain points, not gaining 4 easy kills and you gain a special helicopter which you can easily get 30 kills with

Mobility - oh sorry, so Battlefield having unlimited sprint is fine but Halo isn’t… Wow I’m feel so sorry for you and your idiotic brain…

Loadouts - Battlefield has them, gear of war 3 has them, so Halo isn’t aloud them now, okay now I feel really sorry for your low IQ levels

XP progression - you have to be f***ing kidding… NEARLY EVERY GAME HAS THIS SORT OF XP PROGRESSION SYSTEM!!!

Kill Cam - Other games have this as well, so Halo isn’t aloud…

Spartan ops - Good fun, Great story and I am actually looking forward to the rest of the episodes like many other people

Tracker mod - first of all the mod is called requisition and it allows you to give you another ordance drop for a different set of weapons, grenades and power up, you are really dumb…

Your sandbox arguement - you must suck at this game really badly if your complaining aout this

Now you leave and go play your precious same garbage every year game, fanboy

> > It is not copied from COD, you thick moron, how many times do I have to say this to the idiots who are part of this community… Jesus christ
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> Ordinance drops = copied from CoD
> Mobility = copied from CoD
> Loadouts = copied from CoD
> XP progression = copied from CoD
> Kill Cam = guess what
> Spartan Ops = lol
> Tracker mod = this game sucks
> Same-y weapon sandbox dominated by automatics and long range rifles = now go away

Ordinance: Okay, last time I checked, there are no killstreaks that allow you to choose up to 3 things. Closest I can think of is a Care Package, which acts completely differently and gives killstreaks, not guns.
Mobility: With the edition of sprint as default, its almost inevitable that they add something that extends the longevity of sprint for those who want to get past larger maps faster. If they added ANYTHING that made sprint last longer, kids like you will claim it is from CoD, which is ignorant.
Loadouts: Last time I checked, loadouts did not come from CoD. I can think on the top of my head 10 games that had custom loadouts before CoD even existed.
XP Progression: Claiming that they stole XP from CoD is again completely ignorant. Again, can think of numerous games that use an XP progression system that is not CoD.
Killcam: Okay, I will give you that, but its an edition I like, so I won’t complain.
Spartan Ops: Meant to originally be an upgraded Firefight but grew into a completely different game mode they called Spartan Ops. It tells a weekly story and has reasons for you to complete objectives. If you can tell me ANYTHING in any other game that releases a weekly story based game mode, you let me know.
Tracker Mod: Really? Nothing else to complain about?
No crap its a similar sandbox to CoD, they are both FPS shooters, and that is basically all they have in common.

> > It is not copied from COD, you thick moron, how many times do I have to say this to the idiots who are part of this community… Jesus christ
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> Ordinance drops = copied from CoD
> Mobility = copied from CoD
> Loadouts = copied from CoD
> XP progression = copied from CoD
> Kill Cam = guess what
> Spartan Ops = lol
> Tracker mod = this game sucks
> Same-y weapon sandbox dominated by automatics and long range rifles = now go away

Actually from my PoV it looks more like a battlefield copy. Why?
Long range rifles are more dominant, Smaller load-out system that can be edited in game, No specific kill streak bonuses (not even in battlefield so more like MoH 2010), Xp progression is in every single game it’s not about CoD in this case.
Kill cams suck in cod and I’ll give you that, Spartan ops… I don’t see the link to CoD other than Special Ops missions but still very different, Tracker mod doesn’t affect the overall outcome of the game.

I didn’t say it was copied completely, how could it be, since Halo doesn’t have chopper gunners or ac130s. But you cannot deny that 343i is catering to the cod community, and ordinance drops are very similar in nature to care packages.

I’m not getting into an argument who copied who, I’m here for constructive argument in improving these random personal ordinance drops. That is all

> I didn’t say it was copied completely, how could it be, since Halo doesn’t have chopper gunners or ac130s. But you cannot deny that 343i is catering to the cod community, and ordinance drops are very similar in nature to care packages.
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> I’m not getting into an argument who copied who, I’m here for constructive argument in improving these random personal ordinance drops. That is all

Blame xtra kinky kong for causing this argument, not us…

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> > I didn’t say it was copied completely, how could it be, since Halo doesn’t have chopper gunners or ac130s. But you cannot deny that 343i is catering to the cod community, and ordinance drops are very similar in nature to care packages.
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> > I’m not getting into an argument who copied who, I’m here for constructive argument in improving these random personal ordinance drops. That is all
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> Blame xtra kinky kong for causing this argument, not us…

Hell yeah, you neckbeards are so easy to get riled up, my friends and I are laughing at all of you fyi

> > > I didn’t say it was copied completely, how could it be, since Halo doesn’t have chopper gunners or ac130s. But you cannot deny that 343i is catering to the cod community, and ordinance drops are very similar in nature to care packages.
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> > > I’m not getting into an argument who copied who, I’m here for constructive argument in improving these random personal ordinance drops. That is all
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> > Blame xtra kinky kong for causing this argument, not us…
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> Hell yeah, you neckbeards are so easy to get riled up, my friends and I are laughing at all of you fyi

Using insults over the internet and laughing at a screen, enlighten me on how tough you are and how successful you will be in life…

Nothing is wrong with Ordenance drops it’s not like you’re getting a Pelican to shoot for you and your team.

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> > > > I didn’t say it was copied completely, how could it be, since Halo doesn’t have chopper gunners or ac130s. But you cannot deny that 343i is catering to the cod community, and ordinance drops are very similar in nature to care packages.
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> > > > I’m not getting into an argument who copied who, I’m here for constructive argument in improving these random personal ordinance drops. That is all
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> > > Blame xtra kinky kong for causing this argument, not us…
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> > Hell yeah, you neckbeards are so easy to get riled up, my friends and I are laughing at all of you fyi
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> Using insults over the internet and laughing at a screen, enlighten me on how tough you are and how successful you will be in life…

Ah well let’s see here…

>I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals
>I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills
> I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces.
>Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps
>Your IP is being traced right now

You are nothing to me but just another target.

To be fair (and this applies to both Halo and Call of Duty) if you call in an ordnance drop or a care package before you’ve checked and cleared the immediate vicinity, then you can only blame yourself if you’re killed and have it stolen by an enemy.
If a team-mate takes my drop after I have respawned however, then I am totally fine with that. Share and share alike.

you guys just dont understand that having a sniper or incineration cannon within 2 minutes of the game is gamechanging Lol, not to mention it is all random to which player gets it and which team that player is on

Ordinance drops should not be as easy to get as it is in this game currently, plus there are no drawbacks to it

> > > > > I didn’t say it was copied completely, how could it be, since Halo doesn’t have chopper gunners or ac130s. But you cannot deny that 343i is catering to the cod community, and ordinance drops are very similar in nature to care packages.
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> > > > > I’m not getting into an argument who copied who, I’m here for constructive argument in improving these random personal ordinance drops. That is all
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> > > > Blame xtra kinky kong for causing this argument, not us…
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> > > Hell yeah, you neckbeards are so easy to get riled up, my friends and I are laughing at all of you fyi
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> > Using insults over the internet and laughing at a screen, enlighten me on how tough you are and how successful you will be in life…
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> Ah well let’s see here…
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> >I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals
> >I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills
> > I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces.
> >Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps
> >Your IP is being traced right now
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> You are nothing to me but just another target.

Copied and pasted, I Have seen this thousands of times all over the internet -1000/10