When you keep the beta playlist after the Anniversary one is launched, it makes you look like a bunch of amateurs.
And why do the Anniversary playlists have the Reach abilities? Was the point of Halo CEA playlists not to make them play like Halo CE? Aren’t the 15+ Reach playlists adequate for the people who want abilities? Must everything play the same in this -Yoink!- game?
If they didn’t have options in the Anniversary playlists those that like the Reach play style would not be able to play the new maps.
Then put the maps in a Reach playlist. Problem solved. Anniversary is supposed to play like Halo CE.
> Then put the maps in a Reach playlist. Problem solved. Anniversary is supposed to play like Halo CE.
anniversary classic, problem solved.
anniversary squad is there to allow people who prefer reach’s gameplay to play on the new maps without having to play something they don’t like but at the moment, it is nothing but classic gametypes when there is already the classic playlist for this.
the maps are in other playlists aswell but the problem is that people need the maps for it to come up in the pre-game lobby to be voted for but most of reach’s population seem to not want to purchase the maps or CEA making it extremely unlikely for them to appear in anything the anniversary playlists.
So I’m assuming you’re a staff member at a game company that is licensed to work on a massive game franchise?
If not, you have no right to call 343i amateurs.
> > Then put the maps in a Reach playlist. Problem solved. Anniversary is supposed to play like Halo CE.
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> anniversary classic, problem solved.
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> anniversary squad is there to allow people who prefer reach’s gameplay to play on the new maps without having to play something they don’t like but at the moment, it is nothing but classic gametypes when there is already the classic playlist for this.
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> the maps are in other playlists aswell but the problem is that people need the maps for it to come up in the pre-game lobby to be voted for but most of reach’s population seem to not want to purchase the maps or CEA making it extremely unlikely for them to appear in anything the anniversary playlists.
This.
The only argument that can be made is that Anniversary BTB has Reach settings as well as classic settings.
> > > Then put the maps in a Reach playlist. Problem solved. Anniversary is supposed to play like Halo CE.
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> > anniversary classic, problem solved.
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> > anniversary squad is there to allow people who prefer reach’s gameplay to play on the new maps without having to play something they don’t like but at the moment, it is nothing but classic gametypes when there is already the classic playlist for this.
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> > the maps are in other playlists aswell but the problem is that people need the maps for it to come up in the pre-game lobby to be voted for but most of reach’s population seem to not want to purchase the maps or CEA making it extremely unlikely for them to appear in anything the anniversary playlists.
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> This.
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> The only argument that can be made is that Anniversary BTB has Reach settings as well as classic settings.
i think that is perfectly acceptable though, it allows people who prefer BTB to play both classic and reach if they want to but adding a new BTB playlist to separate is a bad idea because it will strip the populations down to much and cause un-even match-ups and possible longer search times, leaving it as is is fine IMHO.
If you wish to be treated like a forum member with respect here, I’d suggest you don’t make topic titles like the one you made.
The problem with that is that i didnt pay for Halo CE for it to play like Reach. I want to play BTB and all of the other playlist without abilities without having to hope for a veto. Anniversary is not Reach. I dont want abilities. If people want them, put the maps in a Reach playlist.
A few months ago there were about 130 to 150 thousand people playing Reach at any one time, now you’re lucky if theres 80 thousand. This is what happens when you dont listen to what people want. Keep going 343, soon we`ll get to 20-30 thousand no problem.
> The problem with that is that i didnt pay for Halo CE for it to play like Reach. I want to play BTB and all of the other playlist without abilities without having to hope for a veto. Anniversary is not Reach. I dont want abilities. If people want them, put the maps in a Reach playlist.
thank you for not reading my posts, i hope you enjoyed it.
> A few months ago there were about 130 to 150 thousand people playing Reach at any one time, now you’re lucky if theres 80 thousand. This is what happens when you dont listen to what people want. Keep going 343, soon we`ll get to 20-30 thousand no problem.
actually, this is what happens when you listen to the community, almost everything in reach is from what the community had been asking for in previous halo’s and 343i seems to be making the same mistake.
the same thing was done with CoD BO and look how that turned out…
You know what, no i do not agree. There is already a BTB with abilities on Vanilla Reach. Thats more than enough, put the maps on there too. Case closed. But when im stuck playing with abilities on both BTB playlists, that’s just unacceptable to me and not to mention false advertising.
Anniversary playlists should play like CE plain and simple. If Reach players want to play the new maps, then include them in those playlists. But when people play CE, they expect it to play like CE in all those playlists.
It separates the community…so what? Thats why this game was done in the first place, to please the CE fans and what do they do, make it play like Reach in both Vanilla and Anniversary. Because Reach just wasn’t enough apparently.
And you talk about BO, don’t even get me started on that. They might not do everything right, but they allow people to join mid-game and they put every playlist by gametype. So if i wanna play domination or search and destroy all night, i can. And i prefer that way by a mile. When is the last time anyone has played Juggernaut? Its been about a year for me, maybe more. I dont even remember or know where to find it anymore, oh but its a great system.
Reach to me is a great game, but im completely bored of it. Anniversary has brought new life into this game and what do they do, put gametypes that make it play like the old game. Most people who own Anniversary own Reach. Putting the maps in Reach doesnt separate the community, its the same community!
The reason why Reach settings are in the Anni. Playlists are because the TU changes are also applied, even for the gametypes that are Vanilla Reach. 343 didn’t want alienate anyone by adding them universally, even though a lot of people (myself included) want the AL nerf and 85% bloom to be universal.
> You know what, no i do not agree. There is already a BTB with abilities on Vanilla Reach. Thats more than enough, put the maps on there too. Case closed. But when im stuck playing with abilities on both BTB playlists, that’s just unacceptable to me and not to mention false advertising.
as i said, you didn’t read what i had typed.
i have already said that the maps ARE in vanilla reach but the problem is that not every one, if not, the majority of players who play vanilla reach don’t have the maps and for them to appear everyone in the lobby needs to have them making it extremely unlikely for them to ever appear.
but of course, you would have known this because i have already said this if you had bothered to read what i had typed.
> Anniversary playlists should play like CE plain and simple. If Reach players want to play the new maps, then include them in those playlists. But when people play CE, they expect it to play like CE in all those playlists.
correct me if i am wrong but isn’t there a play called ANNIVERSARY CLASSIC?
this playlist is where you can play none stop classic gametypes for the original classic feel and epic nostalgia, if you want to play classic then play the playlist that is there for it.
the other playlists are there to allow people who have the maps to play on the using reach 1.1 instead of being restricted to classic, they have anniversary in the name because the map pack is called anniversary and in typical halo style they put that in the name the tell people that that specific map pack is required to play in the playlist.
> It separates the community…so what? Thats why this game was done in the first place, to please the CE fans and what do they do, make it play like Reach in both Vanilla and Anniversary. Because Reach just wasn’t enough apparently.
read above.
as for BTB, the cons out way the pro’s though, it’s either separate the 2 and have longer search time, more quitters, more consistent laggy games and poorly matched games or more evenly matched games, faster search times and a more consistent good connection games.
the latter seems to be the obvious choice as it pleases the majority.
> And you talk about BO, don’t even get me started on that. They might not do everything right, but they allow people to join mid-game and they put every playlist by gametype. So if i wanna play domination or search and destroy all night, i can. And i prefer that way by a mile. When is the last time anyone has played Juggernaut? Its been about a year for me, maybe more. I dont even remember or know where to find it anymore, oh but its a great system.
my point was that they listened to the community and because of the alterations made based on what the community had said caused a lot of negative feedback and pushed people away from the game, this is the same thing that bungie did with reach and had the same out-come.
> Reach to me is a great game, but im completely bored of it. Anniversary has brought new life into this game and what do they do, put gametypes that make it play like the old game. Most people who who Anniversary own Reach. Putting the maps in Reach doesnt separate the community, its the same community!
did you have the say the same thing at least once in every paragraph?
> The reason why Reach settings are in the Anni. Playlists are because the TU changes are also applied, even for the gametypes that are Vanilla Reach. 343 didn’t want alienate anyone by adding them universally, even though a lot of people (myself included) want the AL nerf and 85% bloom to be universal.
This directly answers the OP.
> > The reason why Reach settings are in the Anni. Playlists are because the TU changes are also applied, even for the gametypes that are Vanilla Reach. 343 didn’t want alienate anyone by adding them universally, even though a lot of people (myself included) want the AL nerf and 85% bloom to be universal.
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> This directly answers the OP.
yes but i don’t think he will listen.
Listen carefully OP.
Anniversary Classic plays only Anniv. gametypes and settings, all the time. If you want nothing but classic, play there for now. In addition, 343 is going to be adding a Classic Playlist to Reach MM sometime in the future that will have gameplay as close to CE as possible. You’ll get your playlist.
The reason the other playlists have both Anniv. and TU Reach gametypes in them right now is because there are people who would like to play the TU changes but not play Anniv., which is vastly different. So in Anniv. BTB and FFA it is necessary to have both Anniv. and TU Reach gametypes. (Though having them in Squad is a bit redundant when Classic is around)
They have put the other maps in MM. But that is A: Gameplay from before the Reach TU and B: Requires everyone to have the maps and vote for them.
Conclusion: You already have your playlist (and will get another one) and haven’t paid attention at all to the overall situation.
L2R.
> The problem with that is that i didnt pay for Halo CE for it to play like Reach. I want to play BTB and all of the other playlist without abilities without having to hope for a veto. Anniversary is not Reach. I dont want abilities. If people want them, put the maps in a Reach playlist.
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> A few months ago there were about 130 to 150 thousand people playing Reach at any one time, now you’re lucky if theres 80 thousand. This is what happens when you dont listen to what people want. Keep going 343, soon we`ll get to 20-30 thousand no problem.
The bigger problem I see is that you’re actin like a child who thinks everything is about you.
If you had been following these forums or even the news updates, you could have saved yourself $40 and a temper tantrum.
> Listen carefully OP.
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> Anniversary Classic plays only Anniv. gametypes and settings, all the time. If you want nothing but classic, play there for now. In addition, 343 is going to be adding a Classic Playlist to Reach MM sometime in the future that will have gameplay as close to CE as possible. You’ll get your playlist.
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> The reason the other playlists have both Anniv. and TU Reach gametypes in them right now is because there are people who would like to play the TU changes but not play Anniv., which is vastly different. So in Anniv. BTB and FFA it is necessary to have both Anniv. and TU Reach gametypes. (Though having them in Squad is a bit redundant when Classic is around)
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> They have put the other maps in MM. But that is A: Gameplay from before the Reach TU and B: Requires everyone to have the maps and vote for them.
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> Conclusion: You already have your playlist (and will get another one) and haven’t paid attention at all to the overall situation.
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> L2R.
I dont htink you understand. Yes he could play classic but what about BTB?
But an even bigger issue is why are there armor abilities anywhere in CEA MP? This was a game supposed to celebrate Combat evolveds gameplay, and CE didnt have AAs or bloom on precision wepaons (no one held the trigger and no one is talking baout the AR). Therefor AAs and bloom should not be anywhere near CEA playlists.
The Op is just saying that if people wanted to play CEA maps that playlist should have been on the reach playlists as a DLC playlist or osmethign along those lines. CEA MP should have ALL CE GAMEPLAY. Why would you have non-ce gameplay even available when that option is already there in teh form of default reach?
sigh
do people not know how to read or refuse to understand what is being said?
anniversary classic is the CEA MP, the other ones are there so people can play reach on the new maps.
i don’t think i can say it any simpler then that.
> sigh
> do people not know how to read or refuse to understand what is being said?
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> anniversary classic is the CEA MP, the other ones are there so people can play reach on the new maps.
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> i don’t think i can say it any simpler then that.
THIS, although I think that classic gametypes in Squad is a bit unnecessary. Classic should be for Classic ONLY, Squad should be for Reach 1.1 ONLY, and all the Vanilla Reach playlists are for Reach 1.0 on CEA maps ONLY.