If you ever wondered why people like Halo 5 spartan abilities this is why

He’s obviously referring to King Crimson’s Time Stop.

Aka lag

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Halo 5’s Spartan Charge, Thrusters, Sprint and Clamber were very good and makes you feel fast and dangerous.
But cmon, Stabilize and Ground Pound was way too much. It’s like wow, am I playing an Iron Man game.

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I think if you make a custom game type with unlimited thrusters (with a cooldown), you’ll have a super similar feel to H5.

Might not be possible now, but I bet within the first year we’ll get three ability to create this

Re-read what you wrote dude. You’re literally sounding like a whiny kid mad that someone has a toy that you don’t have. Maybe that’s not how you wanted it to come across, but it definitely does. Everyone spawning with grapple sounds more like a custom game mode for kicks…same with modes like infinite thrusters etc.

Equal starts just refers to what you have the moment you come up…and some maps have the same equipment on each side while others have a different on each side to compliment the area its near. Like how streets has drop shield by A tower (fortify position)…recharge has repulsor by C…live fire has repulsor by B (push off map, special jump, counter to plasma pistol which is right across the way)…live fire has drop shield by tower. This games designed with equipment in mind. Halo 5 basically accidentally ended up having glitches we could use to do jumps. 4 players can literally collapse on a spawner before they’re even up…you can even manipulate the respawn timer itself by moving to fast for it to spawn them in the right spot. I’m sure you’ve seen the counter "hang " before. I know that game very well. It’s game breaking that you can literally run into a spawn and basically shoot the player up before they can even shoot back almost. The game wasn’t designed for that and it’s painfully obvious. It became part of the skill gap, sure…but it’s obvious how bad it is.

Halo 5s maps are smaller you’re saying right? Look at how badly you can break them through your default spawn abilities though…and then you realize the maps were not designed to have that gameplay on them. The gameplay was discovered and some of it got patched and some of it didn’t. Dude why do you think you can no longer thrust slide like we could in 5? That was purposely done bro. There’s reason for it.

Moving around in halo 5 did feel fun. Exciting. I agree with that…but I also realized I’m having the fun outside of the combat. I’m having fun getting around the map, but the gun fights themselves felt average after awhile. There’s so much bullet magnetism in that game bro…one day I watched my friend stream and he was warming up doing octagon matches…and there were SO many shots counting that shouldn’t count…way way way worse than anything you’d see in infinite…I could no scope people absolutely nasty in that game because the sniper was broken as all hell…I’ve had games where I felt great and games where I knew I I shouldn’t have been gifted the kills from the magnetism…and…games with blank shots…because that just seems to plague 343 halo…blank melee still a problem. Maybe it’s a problem in all online games tho

There’s things i loved about 5 and things I’ve come to realize weren’t that good. The movement itself…it did feel good, but it had baggage with it that muddied the water. It’s this game that did give some highs…again…I played it a ton dude…not saying I didn’t have fun…maybe I’m making it seem that way but I don’t mean to…

Halo 5 had a massive drop off of population for a lot of factors as well, and it’s movement was 1 of them. I’ve always held the position that if that game wasn’t called halo…if it was a spin off with words relevant to the series but not the exact word halo in it…that it could have became much more, and then be re-imagined and tuned for its game play on its next version. At face value though? A massive swath of the audience with a resounding “this doesn’t feel like halo anymore”

Anyways, I’m sorry if I’m coming off the wrong way. Definitely don’t mean that first bit as an insult, but that’s how it read…and on the flip side…maybe i can understand how you feel…like for example…when you start a match, you want that thruster equipment but each time it’s just not there. Or maybe you encounter an opponent that has it and lose the fight and think to yourself that things may have played out differently had you been able to grab yours from your side off of spawn.

I’m not trying to be some arrogant know it all…but man halo 5 had some problems. Infinite isn’t perfect either…but I do enjoy a new game after 6 years of halo 5. How will we even get out of the honeymoon phase when they’re artificially extending it by adding in standard playists months and months away though right? Lol

I appreciate the discussion even if we don’t agree on certain things. I hope you can manage to find some enjoyment from the game. It’s supposed to be sticking around for 10 years after all.

I agree.

I disliked ground pound and hate Spartan charge so glad those are gone.

I’m neutral to thrust and am fine without it in infinite as starting equipment but glad it’s in the game.

Kinda wish infinite had stabilize full time as I kinda liked it’s usefulness and I don’t think it would break the game if implemented.

Also wish clamber worked more like H5s, much smoother.

The only spartan ability from Halo 5 that I really liked was the permanent Thruster. In First-Person Shooters, my biggest pet peeve is the player can’t roll or dive or be as acrobatic as a Third-Person Shooter, the thruster in Halo 5 allowed for extra maneuverability to compensate that loss of acrobatics.

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Thrust sliding sepfically is a glitch. HOWEVER slide thrusting was actually marketed. There was videos before the games release detailing COMBOS. So yes Halo 5 was ment to have movement combos. It WAS. Part of the game. Doing a Sprint, slide, jump thrust, stabilize. IS apart of the game

With that said them taking away thrust sliding is one of the biggest sins they did with the thrust. It was the one of the most fun you could have with the thruster and now it’s gone killing all the fun. The thrust isn’t even momentum based anymore. You literally stop in mid air after thrusting. Super clunky. Not smooth at all. Horrible. May as well just left it out because it’s just a buttered thrust.

Also my focus was never on just movement. I became champ 1 before I know what it takes to be good at that game and movement was just the basics. Having insane movement and aim was the bare Bones to being good at Halo 5. Anyone that’s actually played those high skill matches knows that you couod be the most insane movement person on the field and still get clapped.

Everyone spawning with grapples sounds fun and fair. It’s a video game after all I want to have fun. Not feel frustrated after every match because I’m not having fun in it.

Yes what your explaining about the pickups IS a bad thing. The fact that there is off set abilites makes it even worse. The fact that I can go run into the corner with the thruster off spawn while the other team doesn’t even have a thruster. That to me is super unbalanced.

Oh man don’t get me started on spawn killing. I already spawned in front of multiple people. I already got spawn killed multiple times and I did it to players too. Don’t act like people’s spawns getting hounded isn’t in this game too.

Yes. The maps in halo 5 was designed with that movement in mind. That’s why there were light posts and ledges everywhere because you were ment to thrust from one spot to a another AKA parkour style fighting. Again the game was advertised like this.

I was aware of the super slide glitch. That got patched.
(BTW the super slide is back in Halo infinite). Honestly any game can be exploited.

Again. I don’t like magitusem either. I don’t like aim assist. I don’t like anything that helps you with your aim. I’m with you on this.

Look man. I WANT this back and fourth. It’s what I’ve been craving for. I like to get into the details and the philosophy behind comepetive gaming. I’m here because I miss that feeling of my heart beating before the match is over and getting a crazy win. I remember early Halo 5 days the game used to be so intense. I would literally be sweating after some games because of how high octane the game play was. I was in love. Now I don’t get that exciment anymore.

Sorry Charlie but everybody liked it. You may not have and that’s OK. Halo 5 Multi player has been and will probably always will be the pinnacle of the series. Much like the OP said the movement in that game was absolutely incredible.

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Well his name is Justin

And on that note, I didn’t like it which rules out your generalized comment.

This is the truth.

If you liked it, more power to you. But there’s a reason we don’t have a Halo4/Halo 5 gameplay successor and instead have Halo Infinite.

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I will admit that I wish they kept the momentum with the thruster. I don’t like that it stops me so abruptly. I might use it over the grappleshot if I could keep momentum and slide.

We have Halo infnite because the original trilogy was scraped.

Also many people liked Halo 5 multiplayer because even if you didn’t like the abilites you could turn them off. I haven’t met a single person who can justify how any Halo is better objectively when I can literally create any map and mode in halo 5.

You say you don’t like it but you do. Every single feature you would ask for is already in halo 5. Why Halo 5 wasn’t imported upon. Who knows.

Also people left Halo 5 for a lot of reasons other than gameplay. A lot left because of warzone. A lot left because of the maps. A lot left because of the campagin. Like I said earlier the bad campagin really overshadowed the gameplay.

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Thank you. This is exactly what I’m talking about. You used to be able to run jump thrust and gain momentum for when you hit the floor again. Now it’s like your hitting a brick wall right after the thrust. Super lame. Super boring. It removes a lot of the moves you used to be able to do with the thrust. So yes as of right now the grapple is the more fun and more useful option.

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Didn’t beat the campaign, SR27. And I had to look it up to see how little time I actually spent in it because I forgot.

If I liked it, I would’ve put more time into it than that lol.

But nice try kiddo

The next game I picked up was Overwatch and I put about 3 years of my life into that by comparison

Not what I meant. You don’t even have to play the game for the point I’m making. I’m saying that everything YOU would want in a Halo game. Most of it is already in halo 5.

I disagree.

If Halo 5 is what I wanted, I would have played more Halo 5 lol.

Halo Infinite is not Halo 5, which is why I play Halo Infinite and not Halo 5.

But again, nice try kiddo.

The biggest takeaway from Halo 5 was the pair of Master Chief socks I won at the midnight release.

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I’m taking features my guy. Not the game. I garentee you the limited playlists are not ideal for you. It’s ganna take at least two years to get barely half of what we already have in Halo 5

Too complicated.

IS BAD.

Just because you like it doesn’t mean it wasn’t trend-chasing and identity-killing.

My main point is that Halo 5 was fair.

If anything we can go back to classic gameplay. IDC.

I just don’t want whatever infinite is.

On a side note it really saddens me that people think it’s “complicated” . Detailed and intricate systems amaze me. Having a lot to think about during gameplay is what makes the game fun for me. Having to remember button combos is what makes the game fun for me. I get it. It’s to much for some people but it definitely wasn’t “bad” it was that some just couldn’t handle the speed of desiscsions being made.

Spartan charge was bad. I liked ground pound but it didn’t need to be there

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Wait, is Infinite not fair? That’s news to me…

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Let’s say I’m on the map streets. The game is tied. 49 to 49. I spawn near the thruster where that curved lane is. I pick up the thruster. Close the gap on an enemy. Boom we win the game. Had the enemy had a thruster like I did he would’ve been able to thrust backwards to avoid me.

Many instances like this with the grapple. Repulsor. It’s random. It’s a mess and it’s unfair