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It’s because you lack the skill to turn the tides of the match; you give up to easily and just want the match to end so you don’t have to try as hard. 343 doesn’t care because they know it’s just the result of bad players feeling the wrong end of the "beat a scrub" stick. There are countless videos of players single handedly making a wz comeback after being farmed for half the match. Just because you can’t do it doesn’t mean it can’t be done or that 343 should change the game because you’re not that great of a player. Get better and it won’t happen to you as often. And if you can’t get better…that’s no ones fault except your own. You are literally complaining that it’s hair for the enemy team to try harder than you. Why should someone go easy on you just because you don’t want to have to try? Like…get out of here with that nonsense, you might as well msg the enemy team when the match starts and ask them to give you’re lazy self an undeserved win!
Some of you will need to start accepting the fact that you are sitting at the bottom of the learning curve or just dont really deserve to win because you are lazy. No offense, just saying, even though you like/enjoy something…you may not actually be any good at it or have the mental strength to endure what it takes to win.
The problem isn’t about players individual skill the problem is in Warzone skill matching system is broken also there needs to be a system in place where teams fight teams only like back in the day of Halo 3.
So complaining about it is helping in any way?
Here’s your pat on the back your fishing for. Great job man. Lol
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> The problem isn’t about players individual skill the problem is in Warzone skill matching system is broken also there needs to be a system in place where teams fight teams only like back in the day of Halo 3.
<ul class=“ordered”> - The WZ MMR (matchmaking rating) system isn’t broken. Kids just don’t like getting stomped on by Arena players that jump into warzone. Arena MMR is different from WZ MMR. And if you wanted it to look at our Arena ranks too…then I’m sure most of you would cry about playing with 10yr olds that make you lose when you get matched with them because you’re sitting in bronze/silver/gold arena rank. So like I said…if you don’t want to get farmed…get more skill…
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- That wasn’t how H3 worked exactly. And what you want is still how H5 works. The system does it’s best to place groups with other groups while trying to keep the wait time low. Unless you want to wait 1-2 to play with one of the few 12-man fire times that are online at the same time as your 12-man group…suck it up and learn to stomp on a group of 2-12 players.
complaining about it means that it will catch 343’s attention like all the other complaints people made over the months halo 5 got released.
there are reasons why 343 does not only give us new maps, weapons, skins, etc. but also UI, balancing, matchmaking updates. that’s because we experienced the game the best and if we don’t like anything we complain about it till 343 gives us an answer.
Sadly this topic is just a clone of all the other warzone topics, because 343 already answered those questions about warzone matchmaking/farming whatever you want to call it but they haven’t given updates on their work on it yet.
So i quess waiting time is still here.
Thanks Bungie!
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> complaining about it means that it will catch 343’s attention like all the other complaints people made over the months halo 5 got released.
> there are reasons why 343 does not only give us new maps, weapons, skins, etc. but also UI, balancing, matchmaking updates. that’s because we experienced the game the best and if we don’t like anything we complain about it till 343 gives us an answer.
> Sadly this topic is just a clone of all the other warzone topics, because 343 already answered those questions about warzone matchmaking/farming whatever you want to call it but they haven’t given updates on their work on it yet.
> So i quess waiting time is still here.
> Thanks Bungie!
Getting 343’s attention and 343 doing what you want once you have their attention are 2 different things. Only way to stop farming is to give the losing team the option of forfeit (which comes with more problems than it can solve.)
This thread was made to explain the view of the other 51-60% of us that are the better players (the ones that don’t complain about farming because we can win against it).
It’s possible for one person to cap a base in the back while he enemy is farming them yes, BUT when that said base is capped then what’s the enemy gonna do? Throw majority of what they got to recap that base. And when 75% of your team has LESS than 10 kills after half the match has gone by you can assume they’re noobs. I’m a pretty decent player but, not even the Pros can single-handedly take down 3+ players who know what they’re doing.
Perfect example, I had a game last night where we were getting farmed and I snuck around to cap their armory. I held players off for a bit but, as soon as I went off to kill AI or try other forms of offense, the few players who decided to spawn in the newly capped base would easily be taken over and I alone would have to go and save the base. Now 2-3 enemies is hard for me to handle but, I’ve gotten lucky. But, with no help from my team because they’re just bad, there’s not much I can do. When you have full teams of known farmers who have long win streaks the MM system should know not to put them up against players who’s ranks aren’t even past 20 yet.
Now it IS a problem of lack of player skill and a broken MM system. It’s a team game for crying out loud not lone wolves. Get outta here with that “get gud” -Yoink-. You’re basically asking average players to beat a full team when 1/2 or 3/4 of their own team is comprised of kids who haven’t played a Halo game until Halo 5.
Farming is an issue and it does need to be addressed. Believe it isn’t all you want but, look at it this way…Casuals outnumber the hard-core community by a long shot. If there’s something going on that causes those players to always lose and not be able to enjoy the game what do you think they’ll do? Keep playing or give up and find something else they’ll enjoy? We as a community are making other players leave simply because of a piece of armor. IDK about you but, whenever I get thrown into a game on the farming side, I run in and destroy the core. That crap is BORING! I have more fun with a close game than a one sided one. I got crap to do. I’m not sitting outside a base for 15+ minutes killing people as they attempt to exit while we have 3+ tanks and 2 banshees flying around with everyone else having snipers.
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> I’m a pretty decent player but, not even the Pros can single-handedly take down 3+ players who know what they’re doing.
<ul class=“ordered”> - This is your opinion because the full capability of an “above decent” player isn’t something you understand at this time. cough some of us actually have killtacular medals in arena… I’m sure even a decent player can take on 3+ in WZ if they step their game up…cough
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- Some of those known farmer are below SR20…your statement is invalid. I’ve even seen lvl 100+ known farm teams lose their win streak to a bunch of randoms
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> Now it IS a problem of lack of player skill and a broken MM system. It’s a team game for crying out loud not lone wolves. Get outta here with that “get gud” -Yoink-. You’re basically asking average players to beat a full team when 1/2 or 3/4 of their own team is comprised of kids who haven’t played a Halo game until Halo 5.
- Those “full teams” have plenty of kids that have never played Halo until now. I mean, if it’s a team game like you say…why not get a team…the groups you lose against don’t seem to have a problem finding 12 players to group with…what’s your excuse? I’m asking average players to keep up with the learning curve. If you can’t keep up, form a group, and consistently improve your skill…you deserve to be on the losing end…after all…that’s the end of the curve you are sitting on to begin with.
TBH; I’m giving answers 343 can’t say because it’s never good for a companies image to tell you “suck it up, you just suck and don’t try as hard. Deal with it”
Why arent we allowed to complain? We come onto halo to have a fun time and relax for the day. When I hop on a match of Warzone were I’m getting farmed not only is it not fun, I’m being denied the services the game should provide. The game is supposed to provide a entertaining match with hundreds of unique weapons and vehicles, however when I’m getting farmed, I either A) stay stuck at a certain req level therefore not allowing me to use what is provided, or B) Use certain re items and immediately have them destroyed due to the fact I cant leave my base, which in turn is also denying me from the sources the game has. And don’t say farming takes skill because it doesn’t. It’s not really that hard to overcome a bunch of casuals that play the game every other day, especially when you guys have a sense of direction and a bit of communication. Also dont tell me to get better at the game because first off I guarantee I can beat 3/4ths of your company in 1v1’s but more importantly theres only so much one skilled person can do. One person cannot take on a whole squad alone, no matter how good they are and how bad the other team is, its almost impossible, and if for whatever reason that does happen then the company should just disband and never be spoken of again. How do you expect me to put up a fight when there is 5 heavy vehicles outside, 5 snipers guarding the exits, and a bunch of other garbage in the way? It’s so dumb how flawed this gametype is and 343 did a really mediocre job on this, as the leader of my company I do not tolerate spawn killing one bit! If I wanted to be a try hard then I would just go to arena and let the casuals have their fun. Don’t be that guy that ruins it for everyone else bud.
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> It’s because you lack the skill to turn the tides of the match
I’m sorry but how in the hell are people supposed to fight off an entire squad of tanks, wraiths, ghosts, banshees and snipers sitting outside your base when you can’t get past req level 3?
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I stopped reading your paragraphed post after this part… If you can beat them 1v1 but they can do things like kill half a farming team in 1 spawn life on their own and not even consider that having to try…I’m just gonna call your bluff and say you sound a bit too confident for someone that struggles against farmers. Nothing wrong with being that confident, it just sounds funny when you consider the premise of your comment.
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Indeed.
How is one guy supposed to take on a 12 man team singlehandedly?
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No, youre just using that one statement as an excuse to not give an answer to my questions. And no I’m not over confident I take things into consideration before I state them, I know I’m an above average player not the best player in the world but still. And I know most company’s aren’t really a bunch of tryhards they’re either just a bunch of casuals coming together to put up a fight against other companies or they’re just average players looking for something more with their Halo experience. Therefore I can guesstimate that I can beat most of your company.
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Sneak out, stay alive, re-take their back base, use a mic to help coordinate your team of ransoms (just cuz they don’t talk doesn’t mean they can’t hear). Stop making excuses for your lack of effort/skill/endurance. Even a pistol can stop a tank if you shoot it enough times, I’ve done it multiple times.
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Na, just tired of kids complaining about not wanting to try against teams that want to try. Sorry that some enemy teams won’t go easy on you, but that isn’t 343s problem. Its your problem. Try harder or get use to losing to other people that try hard and play to win no matter what game mode they are in.
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Trust me, most randoms will ignore you. Even if I’m able to retake a base, the farmers usually recap it immediately. If they don’t, you still lose horribly.
Really? A tank with a magnum? By the time you take it out they’ll have three more.
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The problem isn’t losing. The problem is letting a 12 man squad farm a team of randoms while they refuse to end the game. Not fun at all.
Dude I would be deeply appreciative if you would refrain from speaking… A solo player or one in a small fire team should not be matched against a full fireteam. Kinda hard to “turn the tide” when it’s a fully coordinated team vs a group of randoms.
oh and let’s not forget that fact that THAT’S NOT HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PLAY. Once you have all the bases the objective is to destroy the core. Not spawn kill like an idiot.