So, in a nutshell, “Because I haven’t noticed it, and it hasn’t happened to me, it doesn’t happen often at all.”
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So I know I’m a bit off topic but did you all have a good Thanksgiving? 
Please stop with this, the ignorance is not your fault so let me explain:
The theater is a broken mess, has been since Halo 5. It’s unusable. Half the time in 3rd person or free camera it shows Spartans gliding around the map in idle animation. And it’s horribly out of sync with the actual game most of the time. That’s why in 1st person, you see the crosshair at random places in the air as the shots hits.
These shots actually hit in the real game. This is definitely no proof of hackers haha
I’m appalled 343’s theater is still unusable in 2021, while everything worked perfectly fine in Halo 3.
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You’re right that there are aimbots but the theater thing is because theater is completely broken, like entirely. Everything looks desynced- it’s not even worth using. I know you said you know this but I really think that’s the main issue, you can’t really check for a cheater with theater
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Can you read? He’s saying it is a major issue in Infinite, with no evidence at all. I’m giving my own anecdotal evidence to the contrary. If there’s hackers in my games they are clearly terrible at hacking.
The onus of proof is on the person saying “hackers are everywhere because I watched theatre but I’m not going to show anyone”.
Nope, can’t read a single word. Real hang-up on forums, I know.
Are you two playing on the same platform? Region? Gametype? Your anecdotal evidence is no more proof than his, and for all we know his experience could be 100% valid. You’re still saying “It doesn’t happen because it hasn’t happened to me.”
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I am 54. I have been a gamer since before the internet was invented. I moved from Nintendo to X-Box, in 2002 ( that’s when it released in Australia ) , after I played Halo at a friends place and I was instantly hooked. It’s the only game I have time for nowadays. I am acutely aware that my eyesight is not what it used to be and that I have some pain problems in my hands, due to arthritis and some other injuries. I can still play the MCC and Halo 5, without much trouble at all. I do use level intermissions to stretch out my fingers and have a good blink and eyeroll, for the eyesight. BUT, Infinite is causing me unbelievable grief. Smashed into the ground actually. The aiming feels completely different, the movement feels different, my accuracy is garbage. I’m not sure what is going on, but I can say this, I’m not enjoying multiplayer. Right now, it is 10.20a.m., Saturday 27-11-2021, here on the East Coast of Australia. I WILL be playing Halo today. I am going to start with some MCC challenges, which I think are great. Then, I will do some Halo 5, probably Warzone and Warzone Firefight, to get my rank level up, currently 148. Then, maybe, just maybe, I will have a go at Infinite. I say maybe, as I have to weigh this up. Do I want to strain the hell out of my eyes and generate crippling pain in the knuckles, in an all out sweat fest, just to be smashed into the ground? Do I want to look at the stats, at the end of the game, to see, 3 kills, 15 deaths? Do I want to be left wondering, why do I unload a full clip, from the AR into an opponent, who doesn’t die, but instead, hits me with a near instant kill? If those reading this want to make the comment, ‘Well, you just suck at the game’, alright, so be it, I won’t play, time to retire from Infinite MP and stick solely with campaign OR just play all previous versions of Halo, which I don’t seem to have any problems with. Who would want me on their team anyway? Especially with stats like that. For me, Infinte has gutted me. I cannot work out what is going on, but I know this, I am not enjoying it. I have the campaign on order, provided it’s not a buggy mess, I have no doubt at this stage, that I will love it. BUT, I do worry. I went through the MCC problems and some of the 5 problems. At the moment, this new Waypoint site is a broken, buggy mess. The only thing I can really do with this new Waypoint, is the forums. Pretty much everything else gives me an - ERROR 500 - message. It just does not instill any confidence.
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That’s exactly my point…my anecdotal evidence suggests the exact opposite of “there are hackers everywhere”, and it’s up to the person suggesting they are ruining the game to provide evidence, no?
At no point did I say it doesn’t happen. I went out of my way to say that of course there will be hackers in any game involving PC. My point was that he is saying there are tons of hackers everywhere, provides no evidence of this, and yet claims that anyone who watches their games back in theatre will find hackers.
Interestingly, looked up the top KD marks for everyone in the UK (my region) a couple of days ago with Halo tracker and there were no ridiculous KDs in the region. The highest were just people playing vs bots. Nothing like the obvious cheaters you see on the Warzone leaderboards. So either there aren’t many hackers or they are so bad at hacking they have lower KDs than I do…
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No, your anecdotal evidence suggests only that you haven’t encountered them. Or at the very least not noticed them. It’d be like me saying that because I’ve never seen a car accident, they must not happen all that very often.
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if you cant afford to eat you should do drugs. lol.
Curiously you aren’t addressing any of my points. He suggested, without evidence, that hackers are everywhere in Infinite. I explained the desync of theatre and that my own anecdotal evidence is counter to his claims. Why aren’t you addressing the veracity of the initial claim? It’s not on me to prove there aren’t loads of hackers, it’s like asking someone to prove there’s not an invisible dragon in the room. The person making the claim is the one who should be providing evidence.
This is why I feel like casual modes need SBMM and not only ranked, if only as something that exists in the background and isn’t shown to the player unless playing ranked. I’ve always been more of a pve halo player, but from what I did play of halo multiplayer, I’ve never seen as big of a skill disparity in each match as I have in infinite. 98% of matches are a total landslide for one of the teams (sometimes it’s my team so I’m not even complaining about losing, before you try to pull that card). It’s incredibly rare that I find a game that is a fair matchup and a close game.
It is not like that. Burden of proof is on the accuser.
It’s such a weird hill to die on, defending someone who’s making wild accusations about cheaters running rampant when they’ve provided no proof. Defending the rights of the butthurt.
You can’t prove a negative. Nobody can prove there aren’t cheaters - any evidence they provide would just be normal gameplay. Evidence of cheating would be clear and obvious and with the amount of it that Bjoring is apparently experiencing, would you not agree it seems counterproductive to not share that evidence?
All these semantics about experiences and rights on a video game forum; show us the -Yoink!- clips of the cheats and stop pussyfooting around, or drop it.
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Nor do I really need to. The only thing of yours that I’m “addressing” is the notion that because you haven’t encountered hackers, they’re not a common problem. Your position isn’t any stronger than the claim that there are hackers.
Which is also funny that you never answered if you two are on the same console, region, playlist, etc. Which, you know, would narrow things down quite a bit.
Only I’m not quite doing that. Settle down.
I am 38 years old, I have been playing Halo since 2004 (Halo 2). I am not a pro but not a bad one. I was diamond / onyx in Halo 5, Diamond in Infinite.
I can say with absolute certainty that the aim of this game (but even in halo 5 I never liked it) is garbage. I did a thousand tests with dead zones, sensitivity, etc. The problem is that aiming tends to go beyond the point you want, and it’s not setting the sensitivity to 1 that solves the problem because at too low sensitivity you are unable to follow close targets. Something is broken, which doesn’t happen with any other game.
I have to admit that you 343 guys are not up to par. Now Halo Infinite is heavily played, after all, many years have passed since the launch of Halo 5 and it’s a ftp game but rest assured that you will lose the online population very quickly. People will be returning to play TMCC, Call of Duty, or Destiny because they will feel comfortable and not frustrated.
I am having having no fun at all with this. MCC and Halo 5 were never a problem. I looked through the forums, watched some videos and tried the deadzone, look acceleration, FOV etc. to no avail. I am 54 and I realise that my eyesight is nowhere near what it used to be and I have incurred injuries to my hands which doesn’t help. I have ridden motocross all my life and still do, which takes a toll on the knuckles and forearms ( every dirt bike rider can tell you about forearm pump ) I also had my right hand severely broken, by a bad tempered bull we had in the round yard a couple of years ago. BUT, with all that being said, I am still playing MCC and Halo 5 without to many problems, just some finger stretches and a good eye blinking session, between rounds. Infinite is just another story. It’s like every game is an Olympic competition/Sweat fest. I am just shrugging my shoulders at this point. There are posts in other forum threads, where players are saying how they have already done 95 hours of play. This might be a part of the problem. Some players have all the time in th world to get to know every millimetre of the map and I have a 100 other commitments in life, before I can sit down to spend an hour playing some video games as a break. At this point, PvP on Infinite, for me anyway, is not at all enjoyable. I have been having a great old time, on the MCC, doing the challenges over there. I have the Infinite campaign on order and I am really looking forward to that, but as for the F2P side on Infinite, I sort of don’t care. The monetization is horrendous and the sweat fest that goes with having a game, for me anyway, sucks any enjoyment out of it.
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Preach it OP!
As a Halo player of nearly 20 years I should not feel like I have instantly gotten worse at the game. I averaged a 1.7 KD in Halo 2 Anniversary which is pretty much all I played in MCC, and now in Infinite I can barely stay above 1.0.
The aiming in this game is so difficult it makes me not want to play. I have adjusted the controller’s settings over a dozen times trying this and a little of that, and no matter what I do I just cannot get it to shoot straight nor easily like MCC (especially the amazing H2A).
I want to play this game I really do but I am all but ready to give up.
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Actually, I think the theater mode is actually showing where it thinks players are. I’m noticing tons of hit registration issues and had my brother 1v1 since he was winning lots of gunfights he thought he should be losing in games. I recorded the vods and compared it to theater, and sure enough it looked like I never aimed in an Fps game in my life on the replay but my vods looked fine. This was constant with what happened in the matches. Grenades were doing hardly no damage and hits were not registering even though the game was giving hit markers and the accuracy stat was showing they hit. He confirmed he was moving like the theater mode showed. If you look at the match report the damage does not add up to the amount of shots fired at the accuracy level. We both had 20 ping, and I have gig internet. The netcode is busted, the server tick rates are awful, or who knows what… But something is definitely wrong here compared to other games… This happens in live matches often, regardless if ping, but high ping makes it worse.
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I knew something was wrong. Also, it is pretty obvious when you are behind walls getting shot and dying. It is disgusting.
I’m taking a break from Infinite until they get things fixed. Once the campaign comes out I’m just going to play that for the rest of December. Hopefully by January 2022 343 has some of these issues fixed.
I couldn’t agree more. They are obsessed with MLG etc, hence the other obsession with slayer rather than “fun” playlists/game types.
I am an objective player and can’t choose to play what I want; one bomb, neutral bomb, two bomb, one flag, neutral flag… the list goes on.
Not for me… but what about infection, split screen co-ops etc.
Should never have been a “free game”