If we can't compromise, how do we stop her?

Alright, so imagine the following.

The crew on Infinity has been on the run for awhile, but finally turned the tides of battle at least in the physical sense. They’ve been “graced” with Cortana’s presence as she shows herself on the holo-platform type thing. After some talks, they’ve yet to reach any conclusion/compromise, and all hope seems lost. Humanity has decided to not back down, and it’s the same for Cortana. /crappy made up on the spot scene.

Now, since she is presumably in the Domain, how exactly do we get rid of her without causing massive damage to the galaxy? As far as I know, the only way to damage the domain is via Halo energy, and the only known output for that is the Halo Array. So, is that our only option, or can we expect them to just pull some random plot device out of thin air if damaging her ends up being the only option?

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> or can we expect them to just pull some random plot device out of thin air if damaging her ends up being the only option?

yes pretty much. just like in h3 where the semifinished halo ring destroyed all of a sudden only the flood and nothing else. were it so easy, right?

Fair point. ; ~ ;

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> > or can we expect them to just pull some random plot device out of thin air if damaging her ends up being the only option?
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> yes pretty much. just like in h3 where the semifinished halo ring destroyed all of a sudden only the flood and nothing else. were it so easy, right?

But it… didn’t…

The detonation of High Charity decentralized Gravemind enough to disorientate the Flood, and they began concentrating most of their remaining biomass on Installation 04b.

“The Gravemind - it’s rebuilding itself on this ring” - Cortana

Then Chief activates the Ring, and instead of properly activating it shook itself to pieces, destroying itself and rendering parts of the Ark uninhabitable. We can relatively safely assume that, since the Gravemind had a few agendas (stop Truth from firing the rings, stop Chief from firing 04b, etc.), he kept his Flood forces relatively concentrated while he had optimal control. That means most of the Flood likely ended up destroyed with Installation 04b and High Charity each, and that any surviving Infection Forms never quite breached the areas affected by the Ring’s destruction.

Mendicant Bias.

How much could he help? In what ways?

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> How much could he help? In what ways?

He was the Forerunner ancilla in charge of coordinating all of the Halos and was tasked with finding and exploiting a weakness in the Flood. When he fell to the Logic Plague, the Forerunners had to create another AI with the sole purpose of battling Mendicant to stop him.

He’s been buried under the Ark for the last 100,000 years, seeking atonement. He helped Chief escape the Ark in Halo 3, and sent him to Requiem for a reason.

Since hints seem to be leading to a return to the Ark, Mendicant is one of the best possibilities. A Contender-Class AI on our side would be invaluable, especially since he could access the Domain too.

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> Mendicant Bias.

I agree with this. Mendicant Bias is capable of taking her on head to head.

Who knows what will happen I am just happy to see other fans coming up theories, Mendicant Bias is one what about offensive bias?

Maybe halsey can just hack her. If she can a contender I’m sure she can cortana. Sigh

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> > > or can we expect them to just pull some random plot device out of thin air if damaging her ends up being the only option?
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> The detonation of High Charity decentralized Gravemind enough to disorientate the Flood, and they began concentrating most of their remaining biomass on Installation 04b.
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> “The Gravemind - it’s rebuilding itself on this ring” - Cortana
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> Then Chief activates the Ring, and instead of properly activating it shook itself to pieces, destroying itself and rendering parts of the Ark uninhabitable. We can relatively safely assume that, since the Gravemind had a few agendas (stop Truth from firing the rings, stop Chief from firing 04b, etc.), he kept his Flood forces relatively concentrated while he had optimal control. That means most of the Flood likely ended up destroyed with Installation 04b and High Charity each, and that any surviving Infection Forms never quite breached the areas affected by the Ring’s destruction.

yea … that sounds exactly like ‘pulling out a plot device of thin air’
Because every single spore and flood form was on the ring of course and they had absolutely no ships. If it was so easy, how did then the mighty forerunners lose the fight? The only excuse of this poor story telling is that the flood deliberately withdrawed, because of some highly complicated precursor stuff, like humans are mantle worthy or such things…

Also…

What if somehow they enlist the help of the Ur-Didact?

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> yea … that sounds exactly like ‘pulling out a plot device of thin air’
> Because every single spore and flood form was on the ring of course and they had absolutely no ships. If it was so easy, how did then the mighty forerunners lose the fight? The only excuse of this poor story telling is that the flood deliberately withdrawed, because of some highly complicated precursor stuff, like humans are mantle worthy or such things…

Are you contesting how I04B destroyed the Flood on the Ark?
It was still a ring, it did fire its Halo pulse. Just in doing so, it shook itself to pieces and caused catastrophic damage across the Ark. Chief and Arby were the only ones at the Ark when it went off, everyone else had evacuated.
The Flood were destroyed by both the Halo radiation and the Halo exploding. The Gravemind sent everything he had to the Ark to stop anyone from using the rings and cutting his victory short.

The Forerunners lost because they treated the Flood as a disease at first, the Flood developed Keyminds that coordinated entire swaths of the galaxy, the Flood used conventionally indestructible Precursor artifacts to smash Forerunner systems, and crippled the Forerunners’ ancilla network with the Logic Plague and turned their most powerful automated coordinators and defenses against them. We simply haven’t seen that level of Flood power yet.

Halos can be used in smaller scale strikes so who knows if they will be used somehow.

Oh yes, I was wishing that Mendicant Bias would return.

Whats the fuzz about installation 4b and the ark? Everyone see.s the forget that the Ark was actually not in our milky way but beyond the outer rim. Even if the halo had full output the range would probably not reach an inhabited planet (also the rings had to be fired simultaneous to amplify the effect of the array)

Both offensive bias and the ur-didact are unaccounted for, they might or might not show up. It is assumed however that the ur-didact did not survive the firing of the halo array

Then you have mendicant bias but he wont be of a lot of help since he was split into parts by offensive bias, one of these fragments resides on the ark which is how he seemingly helped out the MC but it’s unlikely hell be in fighting shape.

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> What if somehow they enlist the help of the Ur-Didact?

I feel like we need the IsoDidact for some reason. Ur-Didact has bad news written all over him.

Halsey becomes an AI and they have an AI for control.
We talk to the Gravemind and get him to mess up the Domain.
Halsey trains the smartest grunts in AI hacking and Osiris escorts the grunts into Genesis… since they have the coordinates! And they hack her.

Before the release of Halo 5 there was a lot of speculation about Cortana becoming Human through the use of the Composer. I really hope they don’t go that route. I would love to see Mendicant Bias go up against Cortana.

Halsey has access to the Absolute Record. I don’t know how the fate of that since the Escalation story arc is passing so slow, but as of current time we can assume that it’s ready to be used. They can find Forerunner ship’s and weapons, as well as track the Guardians and maybe even Cortana herself. Even without Forerunner stuff, Infinity has 17,000 crew members, more than a handful of Spartan teams, including Blue and Osiris, and probably has a few ship’s docked inside. They also have the Swords of Sanghelios on their side. I think they have somewhat of a chance. But I think the real thing to stop Cortana will be her realizing that Master Chief is willing to do anything to stop her, even if it means killing her.