If there's no covenant...

Then… that must mean there are none of those beautiful sticky blue balls! </3

Nothing feels better than killing someone from the grave by making a last resort throw.

I’m sure there’ll be a new type of grenade that sticks to people… but I mean… we’ll all miss plasma grenades.

Aw, crap. You bring up a good point. I love sticking people with Plasma Grenades. Hopefully they compensate and put a similar grenade in Halo 4.

The whole “there’s no Covenant in Halo 4” business is the fans taking small statements and making huge assumptions. Frankie recently said that “we’re not done with the Covenant”, to what extent the species that made up the Covenant will be involved is currently unknown. They will likely be there to some extent, perhaps it will just be the Elites, perhaps the others will come back as enemies too. No one knows.

The Elites may Be in Halo 4.

Considering the fact that, in Halo 3, Humans and Elites were working together, there is always a possibility that there were some Elite weapons on the Forward Unto Dawn. :slight_smile:

> Considering the fact that, in Halo 3, Humans and Elites were working together, there is always a possibility that there were some Elite weapons on the Forward Unto Dawn. :slight_smile:

Like 4 plasma Pistols and 2 stick grenades?

Oh wait, they were in the front half of the ship.

I’m really curious as to who we’ll be fighting in the new trilogy, will miss the covvies.

On a side note, how many years after H3 is 4 set? Please don’t say 7…

my balls are screwed if covenant appear in halo 4. but the species don’t count unless they are still part of the remaining covenant.

The Elites may show up in the game and some other Covenant possibly. The Covenant is in shambles but not gone. But hey I wouldn’t mind a new kind of sticky nade. Or maybe whatever will be the new main enemy will have something good for us to stick to one anothers faces.

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On a side note, how many years after H3 is 4 set? Please don’t say 7…
Barely two years if I’m correct

Remember that there are still some remnants of the Covenant Loyalists and the Elite Insurgency, so Covies will most likely be in Halo 4, even if it’s just rebel Elites.


**You make a good point!**
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How else will we stick people?

Just because the Covenant is disbanded doesn’t mean we won’t see any of the species that made up the Covenant in Halo 4. I don’t think they’ll be the new main enemy but we’ll at least fight some of them or fight along side them.

The covenant will be in Halo 4.

There is no Covenant anymore.

The Prophets have all vanished, all 1000 of them. To where, nobody knows, but still still remain hidden up until 2559.

The Elites are no longer part of the Covenant. The events of the Great Schism were broadcasted to the entirety of the Covenant’s fleets. Every Elites say the Prophet’s treachery.

The Brutes can’t sustain the Covenant. The Brutes are simply savages. Even before the end of the war they would in-fight amongst themselves. This is the same species who achieved spaceflight only to nuke themselves back to the ground, losing everything they achieved. The Brutes and Elites will continue to fight, but it’s going to be between them.

The other races aren’t exactly loyal followers. The Grunts and Hunters, in the majority, followed the Elites. Some Grunts were kept around Sanghelios to farm, but only a few. The Hunters probably went back to their homeworld. Drones joined the Brutes, so I can imagine they would stick around as engineers. The Jackals just do not care at all. They are merchants and pirates and are only there to make a profit.

There is no Covenant to make a return.

> There is no Covenant anymore.
>
> The Prophets have all vanished, all 1000 of them. To where, nobody knows, but still still remain hidden up until 2559.
>
> The Elites are no longer part of the Covenant. The events of the Great Schism were broadcasted to the entirety of the Covenant’s fleets. Every Elites say the Prophet’s treachery.
>
> The Brutes can’t sustain the Covenant. The Brutes are simply savages. Even before the end of the war they would in-fight amongst themselves. This is the same species who achieved spaceflight only to nuke themselves back to the ground, losing everything they achieved. The Brutes and Elites will continue to fight, but it’s going to be between them.
>
> The other races aren’t exactly loyal followers. The Grunts and Hunters, in the majority, followed the Elites. Some Grunts were kept around Sanghelios to farm, but only a few. The Hunters probably went back to their homeworld. Drones joined the Brutes, so I can imagine they would stick around as engineers. The Jackals just do not care at all. They are merchants and pirates and are only there to make a profit.
>
> There is no Covenant to make a return.

Remember that guy who said the world would end in May then changed it to October? And it never happened might I add.

What’s my point?

Religion never dies as long as there’s people willing to entertain it. The Prophets disappearance is irrelevant as the Elites are still religious. The Covenant will resurface some day in another form… with the knowledge of Halo as a death weapon, which the Prophets themselves probably knew, and the refusal to acknowledge that the Forerunners killed themselves with the Halos, there will be Elites that may still wish to activate the rings.

The Covenant may have lost most of it’s followers, but it’s ideals still stand: worship of the Forerunners. Until the remnants find out the truth about the Forerunners, perhaps from a living Forerunner, they will be too stubborn to abandon it. Tartarus heard it from 343 Guilty Spark but he didn’t abandon his belief.

So… Elites are currently the most religious of all the former Covenant species. If anything, they may be the next antagonists.

> > There is no Covenant anymore.
> >
> > The Prophets have all vanished, all 1000 of them. To where, nobody knows, but still still remain hidden up until 2559.
> >
> > The Elites are no longer part of the Covenant. The events of the Great Schism were broadcasted to the entirety of the Covenant’s fleets. Every Elites say the Prophet’s treachery.
> >
> > The Brutes can’t sustain the Covenant. The Brutes are simply savages. Even before the end of the war they would in-fight amongst themselves. This is the same species who achieved spaceflight only to nuke themselves back to the ground, losing everything they achieved. The Brutes and Elites will continue to fight, but it’s going to be between them.
> >
> > The other races aren’t exactly loyal followers. The Grunts and Hunters, in the majority, followed the Elites. Some Grunts were kept around Sanghelios to farm, but only a few. The Hunters probably went back to their homeworld. Drones joined the Brutes, so I can imagine they would stick around as engineers. The Jackals just do not care at all. They are merchants and pirates and are only there to make a profit.
> >
> > There is no Covenant to make a return.
>
> Remember that guy who said the world would end in May then changed it to October? And it never happened might I add.
>
> What’s my point?
>
> Religion never dies as long as there’s people willing to entertain it. The Prophets disappearance is irrelevant as the Elites are still religious. The Covenant will resurface some day in another form… with the knowledge of Halo as a death weapon, which the Prophets themselves probably knew, and the refusal to acknowledge that the Forerunners killed themselves with the Halos, there will be Elites that may still wish to activate the rings.
>
> The Covenant may have lost most of it’s followers, but it’s ideals still stand: worship of the Forerunners. Until the remnants find out the truth about the Forerunners, perhaps from a living Forerunner, they will be too stubborn to abandon it. Tartarus heard it from 343 Guilty Spark but he didn’t abandon his belief.
>
> So… Elites are currently the most religious of all the former Covenant species. If anything, they may be the next antagonists.

Or the most likely antagonist, as hinted in the Forerunner book Cryptum, is the Timeless One.

The Covenant IS gone.

But the word ‘Covenant’ is still thrown around post-Halo 3.

If Elites are in it, I would suspect they would be allies (probably begrudgingly). Who knows what would happen if they actually encountered the Forerunner.

> But the word ‘Covenant’ is still thrown around post-Halo 3. If Elites are in it, I would suspect they would be allies (probably begrudgingly). Who knows what would happen if they actually encountered the Forerunner.

But the Covenant no longer exists. We still reference the Roman Empire and past civilizations, but that doesn’t mean they are still around.

> The whole “there’s no Covenant in Halo 4” business is the fans taking small statements and making huge assumptions. Frankie recently said that “we’re not done with the Covenant”, to what extent the species that made up the Covenant will be involved is currently unknown. They will likely be there to some extent, perhaps it will just be the Elites, perhaps the others will come back as enemies too. No one knows.

But that doesn’t neccecarily mean they will include ex-Covies in the game (yet). I personally think (and I think 343i feels the same) it’s too early to bring back all those races yet. Surely some classic Halo elements will make a return. And surely Elites for instance will make an appearance in the new Trilogy. But this early in? Doubtfull. This is most likely, and should be, about Chief and Cortana discovering a new threat…on their own…without any back up they know…without UNSC/Elites/Ex-Covies knowing about that threat. So that H5 can expand the scope of the new story again.

I can think of a way that the covenant can return. Notice how the planet is sucking in the forward onto dawn? There was a moon that studied things that landed on the planet (Blood lines I think), if this planet had a combination of shield world and the studying, a supercarrier might have been sucked up resulting in a large amount of covenant on the planet, still having no idea about the halos. Then they would most likely start fighting this “ancient enemy” and again master chief gets caught in the middle.

> I can think of a way that the covenant can return. Notice how the planet is sucking in the forward onto dawn? There was a moon that studied things that landed on the planet (Blood lines I think), if this planet had a combination of shield world and the studying, a supercarrier might have been sucked up resulting in a large amount of covenant on the planet, still having no idea about the halos. Then they would most likely start fighting this “ancient enemy” and again master chief gets caught in the middle.

  1. Why was a Supercarrier on the outskirts of the galaxy?
  2. Where is your evidence the Legendary Planet has such technology?