…then the player base won’t be. why release a game just to kill it 343? I’d be spending so much time on DE if it had the old leveling system along with matchmaking & true skill. Multiplayer in it’s current state is just Custom Games glorified by a lobby browser, I cancelled my preorder when I found out but still got a code. So Please 343, please find the time to do right by Ensemble studios and the fans of the first HW game by bring back crucial features to online play and I’ll be happy to give back that $80 preorder.
Halo Wars had a low population count prior to the DE, usually only being under 1000. Give this new tactic a try, you might be surprised by the outcome.
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> Halo Wars had a low population count prior to the DE, usually only being under 1000. Give this new tactic a try, you might be surprised by the outcome.
The Online Population bar on Halo Wars 1 saying 975 players online has been broken ever since 343i quit supporting Halo Wars 1. If you have visited Halowars.com and checked the daily population lately, it exceeded 11,000+ players. It was hitting 25,000+ players when Halo Wars 2 was announced. The game has a much bigger following than you give credit for. There are also a silent population of players not playing right now, and haven’t the past couple years. Just anticipating a Halo Wars Definitive Edition.
EDIT:
As of today 13,000 players have played Halo Wars 1.
This new system wont be getting a “try” as their is no ranking system, no leaderboards and no competitive matchmaking, meaning 3 random players can be put against a stacked team over and over.
Its imbalanced, unfun and not competitive we had one reply in reddit check the leaderboards thread and bless the poor guy is under a lot of stress he is just a messenger, the devs working on the game have gone silent.
And don’t get me started on Dan have you seen his twitter feed constantly talking about codes not one tweet even acknowledging this problem.
From the reddit post it looks bleak. I am just so sad, and we are getting drowned out too. This game will be dead on arrival.
RTS GAMES NEED COMPETITIVE RANKING!!!
The reddit post. https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloWars/comments/5jn8u0/comment/dbigwi1
Isn’t this game “early access”? How do we know that proper MM and ranking wont be coming later with the full release? Maybe those features just aren’t ready yet.
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> Halo Wars had a low population count prior to the DE, usually only being under 1000. Give this new tactic a try, you might be surprised by the outcome.
Do you work for these moron at 343 that wrecked our game you silly casual. Listen to your self I have 10k games ranked number one life time you think I wana beat up kids like you or play kids on my lvl this is FXxxd
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> > Halo Wars had a low population count prior to the DE, usually only being under 1000. Give this new tactic a try, you might be surprised by the outcome.
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> Do you work for these moron at 343 that wrecked our game you silly casual. Listen to your self I have 10k games ranked number one life time you think I wana beat up kids like you or play kids on my lvl this is FXxxd
Lmao thanks for that post. You’re gonna be the new main character for a show.
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> > Do you work for these moron at 343 that wrecked our game you silly casual. Listen to your self I have 10k games ranked number one life time you think I wana beat up kids like you or play kids on my lvl this is FXxxd
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> Lmao thanks for that post. You’re gonna be the new main character for a show.
Whatever man
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> > > > Halo Wars had a low population count prior to the DE, usually only being under 1000. Give this new tactic a try, you might be surprised by the outcome.
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> > > Do you work for these moron at 343 that wrecked our game you silly casual. Listen to your self I have 10k games ranked number one life time you think I wana beat up kids like you or play kids on my lvl this is FXxxd
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> > Lmao thanks for that post. You’re gonna be the new main character for a show.
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> Whatever man
I bet you get all them ladies with your rank 1 spot eh?
Is that your pickup line for them? “Hey baby, I’m ranked number one and got over 10k games registered”
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> This new system wont be getting a “try” as their is no ranking system, no leaderboards and no competitive matchmaking, meaning 3 random players can be put against a stacked team over and over.
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> Its imbalanced, unfun and not competitive we had one reply in reddit check the leaderboards thread and bless the poor guy is under a lot of stress he is just a messenger, the devs working on the game have gone silent.
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> And don’t get me started on Dan have you seen his twitter feed constantly talking about codes not one tweet even acknowledging this problem.
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> From the reddit post it looks bleak. I am just so sad, and we are getting drowned out too. This game will be dead on arrival.
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> RTS GAMES NEED COMPETITIVE RANKING!!!
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> The reddit post. https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloWars/comments/5jn8u0/comment/dbigwi1
Such old game like Halo Wars 1 doesnt need this competitive tryhard -Yoink-. Play the original through XboxOne BC if you want all that.
Halo Wars 2 will have the competitive stuff…
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> > This new system wont be getting a “try” as their is no ranking system, no leaderboards and no competitive matchmaking, meaning 3 random players can be put against a stacked team over and over.
> >
> > Its imbalanced, unfun and not competitive we had one reply in reddit check the leaderboards thread and bless the poor guy is under a lot of stress he is just a messenger, the devs working on the game have gone silent.
> >
> > And don’t get me started on Dan have you seen his twitter feed constantly talking about codes not one tweet even acknowledging this problem.
> >
> > From the reddit post it looks bleak. I am just so sad, and we are getting drowned out too. This game will be dead on arrival.
> >
> > RTS GAMES NEED COMPETITIVE RANKING!!!
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> > The reddit post. https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloWars/comments/5jn8u0/comment/dbigwi1
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> Such old game like Halo Wars 1 doesnt need this competitive tryhard -Yoink-. Play the original through XboxOne BC if you want all that.
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> Halo Wars 2 will have the competitive stuff…
Bizarre. An RTS game without competitive? How could that be an effective game?
Hardly “Definitive” edition.
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> > > This new system wont be getting a “try” as their is no ranking system, no leaderboards and no competitive matchmaking, meaning 3 random players can be put against a stacked team over and over.
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> > > Its imbalanced, unfun and not competitive we had one reply in reddit check the leaderboards thread and bless the poor guy is under a lot of stress he is just a messenger, the devs working on the game have gone silent.
> > >
> > > And don’t get me started on Dan have you seen his twitter feed constantly talking about codes not one tweet even acknowledging this problem.
> > >
> > > From the reddit post it looks bleak. I am just so sad, and we are getting drowned out too. This game will be dead on arrival.
> > >
> > > RTS GAMES NEED COMPETITIVE RANKING!!!
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> > > The reddit post. https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloWars/comments/5jn8u0/comment/dbigwi1
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> > Such old game like Halo Wars 1 doesnt need this competitive tryhard -Yoink-. Play the original through XboxOne BC if you want all that.
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> > Halo Wars 2 will have the competitive stuff…
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> Bizarre. An RTS game without competitive? How could that be an effective game?
> Hardly “Definitive” edition.
Why does a game need this tryhard -Yoink-? I have fun with the game 
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> > > > This new system wont be getting a “try” as their is no ranking system, no leaderboards and no competitive matchmaking, meaning 3 random players can be put against a stacked team over and over.
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> > > > Its imbalanced, unfun and not competitive we had one reply in reddit check the leaderboards thread and bless the poor guy is under a lot of stress he is just a messenger, the devs working on the game have gone silent.
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> > > > And don’t get me started on Dan have you seen his twitter feed constantly talking about codes not one tweet even acknowledging this problem.
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> > > > From the reddit post it looks bleak. I am just so sad, and we are getting drowned out too. This game will be dead on arrival.
> > > >
> > > > RTS GAMES NEED COMPETITIVE RANKING!!!
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> > > > The reddit post. https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloWars/comments/5jn8u0/comment/dbigwi1
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> > > Such old game like Halo Wars 1 doesnt need this competitive tryhard -Yoink-. Play the original through XboxOne BC if you want all that.
> > >
> > > Halo Wars 2 will have the competitive stuff…
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> > Bizarre. An RTS game without competitive? How could that be an effective game?
> > Hardly “Definitive” edition.
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> Why does a game need this tryhard -Yoink-? I have fun with the game
I guess it has a strong following from its player base. Can’t blame people for being passionate about a game they enjoy and hoping for its on-going success.
I personally think 343i purposely gimped the Definitive Edition so that they would not have 2 competing products for the attention of on-line RTS fans. I think the DE was just to be a money/cash grab to get people to pre-order the game. They never once mentioned they stripped the main point of a RTS and that is the Ranking, Matchmaking, Leaderboards.
I have said this before:
Rip out Rankings, Matchmaking, Leaderboards from Halo 5, COD, Battlefield and you will see the on-line community disappear for these games and those gamers move onto a game that does have these “basic” things. Main reason I believe they did this, they did not want 2 communities of RTS gamers and potentially taking players away from Halo Wars 2. The negative side of this, along with the fiasco of the codes, is people are cancelling pre-orders, which is something I have considered. Main reason I wanted the D.E. was to play competitive matches on-line and this is really not possible with the current system.
It’s fun, but it won’t last in this state. really really really need a competitive aspect if you want to have any chance of keeping a player base for this game
To be fair… The playerbase of the original game died very fast. (#1 on this list)
A few weeks/months after launch was no further online match possible. And if you found one after a long time of searching, it was the whole time the same player… day in day out.
It’s perhaps better with this way.
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> To be fair… The playerbase of the original game died very fast. (#1 on this list)
> A few weeks/months after launch was no further online match possible. And if you found one after a long time of searching, it was the whole time the same player… day in day out.
> It’s perhaps better with this way.
You can find a game on the original within 5 mins max now 7 years after launch so yeah total utter rubbish sorry.
Great thingis if there is no player of your skill it sync data and find any other players online the original matchmaking was perfect.
This new mode is poor as the host dictates how you play which is not good at all.
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> > To be fair… The playerbase of the original game died very fast. (#1 on this list)
> > A few weeks/months after launch was no further online match possible. And if you found one after a long time of searching, it was the whole time the same player… day in day out.
> > It’s perhaps better with this way.
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> You can find a game on the original within 5 mins max now 7 years after launch so yeah total utter rubbish sorry.
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> Great thingis if there is no player of your skill it sync data and find any other players online the original matchmaking was perfect.
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> This new mode is poor as the host dictates how you play which is not good at all.
Ouw yeah… maybe because it’s hyped again? 
It was a long time really silent in hw.
Based on the achievement tab of the official Xbox App, a few stats after around 8 years halo wars:
Only 2% have unlocked the general achievement (needed score: 960.000 lowered from 3.200.000 on nov.2009 - rank 8 of 8)
Only 9% have won a game on each map.
Only 2% have got a scarab during mp.
ONLY 12% have unlocked the second (2nd) rank lieutenant (needed score: 15.000 lowered from 90.000 - rank 2 of 8)
The other mp achievement values are 3, 4, 7, 12 and 32… the rest is 2%
All mp achievements from hw are only between 2% and 32% (global unlocked) but you can’t really count the 32% achievement because its the mp starter achievement - The percent value for more than the half of its mp achievements is 2%. (my only missing achievements are the one for coop and the general rank… because it was dead after i became brigadier. It was already dying when the first dlc came out)
You can recognise by how fast it is died.
But here is a little summary:
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32% got the first rank, you get this rank after your first match… so 32% of the hw playerbase has played it’s multiplayer part… 12% got the second rank and only 2% got the last rank and the dlc achievements, because it was dead before they could unlock it. It is stated on wiki that hw was sold around 1 million times: So 2% are only 20.000 players and 32% only 320.000 players, distributed on different modes, dlcs, moments and timezones.Also it’s forum is dead since dec.2010.
To quote someone from the hw forum
> I’ve played halo wars during GMT day time and the game has 915 players. Can’t even find an UA game for fucksake.
> Halo - Official Site (en)
The other side is: It’s also only a hd remaster edition and nothing new which gets maybe players and developers full attention for the next coming years. And HW2 is coming too, that’s why you get this game as a transition to hw2’s launch. You don’t really need it’s mp after hw2 is released. So far i know are there also no ranks and no general-major achievement.
Look at all the other remastered editions, they are mainly for nostalgia and money - and probably never played so much as the 2 newest parts of the series. They get a short hype after announcements or launches of new parts, but they aren’t the big hit.
It’s also funny:
If a game has matchmaking like GoW:UE and GoW4… the (pc) people will cry for match/game browsers.
If a game has a browser… the people will cry for matchmaking.
And btw… normally i prefer matchmaking, but the original halo wars has proved that it make no sense for it. That’s why a quick browser solution is maybe better for it.
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total utter rubbish- hm?!
Those stats include players who play campaign and never play a online match.
Rubbish as you said you cannot find games I played since launch at different intervals you can and rather quickly.
I am pretty sure the judgement of someone who played works over stats.
I appreciate the in depth response though and you make good points I just feel it does not work with this game.
Dude check google, check the forum or check other things if you don’t trust in facts, stats and player statements.
915 was also a lot for this time… i had even less than 100. it was really dead and not something like “flash is dead”. No players, no matches.
It’s a well known issue of halo wars.
And yeah sure, those stats includes players who play only the sp part, what else? Only mp players so that 100% has unlocked the first rank? fakey stats? 
That’s why there is also some math in my post above. 1mio sold copies = 100%, 320k players = 32%, 120k players = 12%, 20k players = 2%.
And it’s not far from 120k players, to 20k players, to 915, to 100, to nearly zero. You could count it up to another million, but even this would be a sad result for 8 years.
Only 32% of the players have tried at least for one time the multiplayer and 12 % have reached the second one.
It’s also the reason why they have lowered the required xp for the ranks so massively - so that the active players have a change to get the achievement for the last rank. less players, less matches, less xp. The old xp-requirement was intended for a considerably longer lifetime and they have seen that it doesn’t fit with the reality.
Believe it or not, but it’s a fact and if you think about it for a while, you could know that it’s probably also one of the reasons why 343 has replaced the mp achievements and the mp-system.
But hey… we all liked it, and that’s why we should enjoy the time with it until halo wars 2 is launched. We should hope the best for hw2 and that it runs better than before, especially for the small nagging pc community.
btw: 343 said, that they had no time to implement crossplay in hw2… perhaps it comes on a later date, which would help both sides on a later date. (it’s time to end these stereotypes)