If the Carbine is buffed...

… Then wouldn’t the Battle Rifle be even more UP?

Think bout it, right now the carbine can beat BR head on.
If it is buffed to a 7sk then the BR would be utterly useless.

My suggestions for the some weapons, please feel free to edit or discuss what ever you’d like.

•BR - reduced fire rate and 4sk
•DMR- reduced fire rate
• Carbine - buffed to 7sk
• Plasma Rifle - lowers shields fast, poor against flesh, medium long cooldown

Discuss.

i dont get the point of lowering the br’s rate of fire and making it a 4 shot…

You can’t just change the rof on the br, that will piss people off more. 4sk is acceptable though.

Dmr…I would just bring back descoping to nerf its range. The 4sk br and 7sk carbine will do the rest of the balancing.

Carbine…yes, 7sk would be good.

There is no plasma rifle. I wish there was though, storm rifle feels like a reskined ar that shoots plasma to me.

> i dont get the point of lowering the br’s rate of fire and making it a 4 shot…

Because if it was 4 shot and still had its fast fire rate, it would be another DMR fiasco.

> > i dont get the point of lowering the br’s rate of fire and making it a 4 shot…
>
> Because if it was 4 shot and still had its fast fire rate, it would be another DMR fiasco.

then whats the point in changing it at all?

> You can’t just change the rof on the br, that will piss people off more. 4sk is acceptable though.
>
> Dmr…I would just bring back descoping to nerf its range. The 4sk br and 7sk carbine will do the rest of the balancing.
>
> Carbine…yes, 7sk would be good.
>
> There is no plasma rifle. I wish there was though, storm rifle feels like a reskined ar that shoots plasma to me.

If the BR Is buffed to 4sk with its current fire rate, it would be a mess.

Whoops, I forgot what the new “plasma rifle” was called in this game for a second.

> > > i dont get the point of lowering the br’s rate of fire and making it a 4 shot…
> >
> > Because if it was 4 shot and still had its fast fire rate, it would be another DMR fiasco.
>
> then whats the point in changing it at all?

To have it head on with the Carbine. Like I said in my OP, of the Carbine is buffed by the BR isn’t, then the BR isnt worth using.

If I am fighting an even skilled player with a BR head up with a carbine, I will lost with a carbine (not including situational stuff like grenades and positioning). I believe a 7sk carbine would be fine

i think, instead of a damage buff, what the carbide needs, is a bigger clip and more ammo.

that way it could still enjoy its spot in the lineup as a faster more accurate(albeit less powerful) assault rifle and still remain viable in a multiple opponent encounter.

> > > > i dont get the point of lowering the br’s rate of fire and making it a 4 shot…
> > >
> > > Because if it was 4 shot and still had its fast fire rate, it would be another DMR fiasco.
> >
> > then whats the point in changing it at all?
>
> To have it head on with the Carbine. Like I said in my OP, of the Carbine is buffed by the BR isn’t, then the BR isnt worth using.

nothing ur saying is making sense… how will doing that change anything? you might as well just take the DMR out of the game.

halo 4 - DMR = better game

> If I am fighting an even skilled player with a BR head up with a carbine, I will lost with a carbine (not including situational stuff like grenades and positioning). I believe a 7sk carbine would be fine

Probably because the BR has more aim assist and magnetism, I could be wrong, but that’s what I think. I can destroy kids with the carbine, except a nooby DMR User.

> > > > > i dont get the point of lowering the br’s rate of fire and making it a 4 shot…
> > > >
> > > > Because if it was 4 shot and still had its fast fire rate, it would be another DMR fiasco.
> > >
> > > then whats the point in changing it at all?
> >
> > To have it head on with the Carbine. Like I said in my OP, of the Carbine is buffed by the BR isn’t, then the BR isnt worth using.
>
> nothing ur saying is making sense… how will doing that change anything? you might as well just take the DMR out of the game.
>
> halo 4 - DMR = better game

If the Carbine is buffed, and the BR Isn’t. Then the BR wouldn’t be worth using.

> > > > > > i dont get the point of lowering the br’s rate of fire and making it a 4 shot…
> > > > >
> > > > > Because if it was 4 shot and still had its fast fire rate, it would be another DMR fiasco.
> > > >
> > > > then whats the point in changing it at all?
> > >
> > > To have it head on with the Carbine. Like I said in my OP, of the Carbine is buffed by the BR isn’t, then the BR isnt worth using.
> >
> > nothing ur saying is making sense… how will doing that change anything? you might as well just take the DMR out of the game.
> >
> > halo 4 - DMR = better game
>
> If the Carbine is buffed, and the BR Isn’t. Then the BR wouldn’t be worth using.

then why buff the carbine if its an even match to the BR?

> > You can’t just change the rof on the br, that will piss people off more. 4sk is acceptable though.
> >
> > Dmr…I would just bring back descoping to nerf its range. The 4sk br and 7sk carbine will do the rest of the balancing.
> >
> > Carbine…yes, 7sk would be good.
> >
> > There is no plasma rifle. I wish there was though, storm rifle feels like a reskined ar that shoots plasma to me.
>
> <mark>If the BR Is buffed to 4sk with its current fire rate, it would be a mess</mark>.
>
> Whoops, I forgot what the new “plasma rifle” was called in this game for a second.

Halo 3 would like to have a word with you.

> > > You can’t just change the rof on the br, that will piss people off more. 4sk is acceptable though.
> > >
> > > Dmr…I would just bring back descoping to nerf its range. The 4sk br and 7sk carbine will do the rest of the balancing.
> > >
> > > Carbine…yes, 7sk would be good.
> > >
> > > There is no plasma rifle. I wish there was though, storm rifle feels like a reskined ar that shoots plasma to me.
> >
> > <mark>If the BR Is buffed to 4sk with its current fire rate, it would be a mess</mark>.
> >
> > Whoops, I forgot what the new “plasma rifle” was called in this game for a second.
>
> Halo 3 would like to have a word with you.

hes asking for the br to be a 4sk, but to also have a slower rate of fire, but im not sure how that will change anything …

> > > You can’t just change the rof on the br, that will piss people off more. 4sk is acceptable though.
> > >
> > > Dmr…I would just bring back descoping to nerf its range. The 4sk br and 7sk carbine will do the rest of the balancing.
> > >
> > > Carbine…yes, 7sk would be good.
> > >
> > > There is no plasma rifle. I wish there was though, storm rifle feels like a reskined ar that shoots plasma to me.
> >
> > <mark>If the BR Is buffed to 4sk with its current fire rate, it would be a mess</mark>.
> >
> > Whoops, I forgot what the new “plasma rifle” was called in this game for a second.
>
> Halo 3 would like to have a word with you.

Fun fact: Carbine was faster than BR if used correctly. I destroyed kids with that gun so many times.

Carbine should be 7 shot, with the same kill time. I doubt that would hamper the rof that much. Keep br same. Nerf dmr. Profit.

Yep, it would which is why we should buff the BR too(mainly by removing random spread), but then we might need buff the light rifles unscoped rof and the damage of the auto weapons to balance that.

And then… oh… well look at that… suddenly everything is as good as the DMR instead of nerfing everything down to the BRs low level.

Funny how that works.

As a dedicated Carbine user, I hope that the Carbine is never buffed. I would just feel too cheap using it.

As for the rest of the weapons, I feel that the BR is fine where it is (also as someone who uses the BR with frequency). I do agree that the DMR should at least have a range nerf.

> Carbine should be 7 shot, with the same kill time. I doubt that would hamper the rof that much. Keep br same. Nerf dmr. Profit.

You forgot ???.

And yeah, as the Carbine is much less forgiving with it’s aim-assist and range, giving it a little more damage output would be nice.