I like your thinking
These shouldn’t be time limited rewards, in my opinion. They should just be Achievement rewards, added with the introduction of new Seasons.
Let’s be totally honest, Acheivements in this game are totally useless and offer nothing but Gamerscore for completion. Achievement based rewards may not be the easiest to get, but they’re rewarding and make those Achievements have more meaning and purpose. The current system doesnt reward you for doing cool things, it pushes you to do entirely mundane and boring tasks for rewards that are either not proportional to the required task or a repeat of an existing item (Season 1’s emblems).
There needs to be more ways to earn cool cosmetics, especially for Free to Play players, than just the time limited passes and sucky events.
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Yes everyone please quit. We will have a Viking funeral for you cause you will be all missed so much…. Or wait. No one cares. Go play warzone. Can we be done with this? “But what about me?!?!?!” FYI. No one cares.
The FOMO stuff and that anti social challenge system are playing a big part in player loss I think and need to go. If people can’t play with their friends and the game tells them kindly to bug off, they probably are not gonna play and the numbers reflect that.
Why in god’s name do they launch an event, that you can’t play together? Completely baffles me.
Wanna play some BTB? Nope, I have to melee 25 dudes, then headshot 10 and then kill 50. After that I have to play 3 more games and it’s probably the best if I stay in game, because half of the time, the challenges don’t even count up.
You have a more or less functional system in MCC in place. It’s not the best but a hell of a lot better than this pile of BS.
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They can’t hide behind “we don’t want to weaponize FOMO” when they’ve already done that. Store Rotations, vaulted content, frustrating challenges, limited time events. It’s all weaponized FOMO.
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Yeah events should just be completing matches to get players to dip their toes in the mode and challenges should be left as extra incentive
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How is that illegal? lol.
Honestly, FOMO will never be removed from anything. Simply due to the fact that it works. And it’s worked for decades. What are people going to say isn’t fair next, limited time sales at the supermarket? Something like Black Friday in the early 2000s? Limited time $1 coffees at the local fast food spot? I don’t think FOMO is a new anxiety issue. It’s getting caught up in a tale as old as time sales tactic hook line and sinker. That being said, FOMO isn’t the issue here at all I agree, that was a bad and completely pointless issue that guy brought up. He basically took 2 non issues and completely ignored the main glaring issue of a severely flawed progression system and challenge set up. Like, why should I have to play 15 games I don’t want to play just to play an oddball match or get 10 kills with a carbine rifle that’s already difficult to get kills with let alone getting a map that spawns them. That is quite literally forcing people to play. Not because of the other non issues that guy mentioned.
The second part he says is nonsense. I don’t recall any FOMO stuff in Reach H4 or H5 and people still and reasons to play.
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Keeping the FOMO system is literally lying and failing on one of their promises that they made. The FOMO system is a very pressing issue when it is literally the only progression system in existence in a game where there is no incentive other than weekly prizes, or payouts.
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Namely, the commendation system.
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I’d grind for this.
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It’s not so much the reward itself as it is the time limit. My solution would to remove some of the time constraints on the rewards. Release them a week at a time, and have them stick around for an entire season. If players miss some weeks, they can choose which weekly reward to work on and do so one at a time.
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Yep. MCC does this with the exchange and players can get things whenever they have time.
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In their promotional material, they strictly claimed their game wouldn’t have features that induce FOMO. How is that confusing to you? If they claim their game wouldn’t have features that disappear forever, how exactly is it legal to go against that claim? They’re selling us a product, not a schoolyard secret. When a company sells something to a customer, they’re liable to tell the truth about what the product contains. They lied, simple as that.
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Just to be clear I think 343 does use FOMO to make more money and I don’t agree with that but when did they strictly claim the game wouldn’t have features that induce FOMO and wouldn’t have features that disappear forever?
As for the legality, I’m not even sure video games count as products any more in quite a few markets and are instead often just licences to use software.
Personally I don’t think there is enough there but I don’t know what country you’re from or what evidence of illegality you have/believe you have so if you genuinely feel you have a solid legal case against 343 and/or Microsoft I think you should be talking to legal counsel about it.
Are you ignorant? They had videos before releasing talking about how they didn’t want to have FOMO in their games. How are you unaware of this? Not to mention, in what world is a video game not a product? Under the idea it’s just a license to use software, it’s still a product that you pay money for. It’s irrelevant that it’s digital.
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A reach style progression system would do wonders for this game players would be more inclined to play.
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Can you point me to one of these videos? One where they strictly state that no content would ever be time limited or removed from the game? The specific wording used would be key in determining whether or not you have a legal case. Ultimately to put forward a legal case you would be expected to provide evidence such as a video and the exact point in that video where what you say was said is stated, you wouldn’t be able to expect a judge or jury to be aware of the claims for themselves you would be required to demonstrate them.
A licence to use something and owning something are two different things, one is a service the other is a product. That is the case in quite a few countries in the world and as I said in my post without knowing what country you are from I can’t say for certain whether that is the case where you live or not.
As I say if you believe you have enough evidence to prove that 343 and/or Microsoft has broken the law then speaking to legal counsel will serve you better than posting on the forums.
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