Has 343 put more work into Halo 4 than Bungie put into any other Halo game? Bungie did the standard campaign, multiplayer, and forge stuff but 343 is doing:
Spartan ops
Expanding on multiplayer and customization options
FUD
Campaign
Expanding on forge
(seriously 50 missions and 10 cinimatics?!?! whole seperate game here people!)
No way. Bringing game modes to life is a much bigger challenge than improving them.
I’ve no doubt that they’ve put in AT LEAST as much time as bungie did. The difference I see is that bungie actually had to think these things up(forge theater customs etc.) and then make them from scratch. 343 has all these concepts fleshed out for them already and is just expanding on them(and doing a great job of it).
> No way. Bringing game modes to life is a much bigger challenge than improving them.
Bungie screwed theater and the file share
> > No way. Bringing game modes to life is a much bigger challenge than improving them.
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> Bungie screwed theater and the file share
In one game. Introducing those things in Halo 3 was incredible and no doubt took significant manpower.
Most of the things in Halo 4 are extensions of Bungie’s creations over the years.
343 is working way harder than Bungie. Look at this stuff. Look at the amazing attention to detail and then come back and say that Bungie worked harder.
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Killing a franchise as prestigious as Halo must take a lot of work.
It’s not easy to do.
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Get out.
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Shut up and go back to The Flood fourms…this is 343’s fourms, you have no right to say they are ruining halo. I for one think that 343 is better than bungie. They are the ones who ruined halo by making Reach…
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Good thing 343i is reviving it.
Reviving franchise left to die can be tough too, especially these days.
With this being their first Halo game, they are doing an outstanding job and show lots of devotion. I can’t wait for release!
Bungie gave them the tools, and now they’re enhancing them beautifully.
Though we can only judge the true devotion and dedication after 343i have released their trilogy and maybe some spin offs. Its a bit unfair to judge 343i VS Bungie while Bungie has 10 years of Halo behind them, with Halo 4 being 343i’s first true game.
It’s much easier to improve on something than it is to create something. Bungie brought us Forge, Bungie brought us Theater, Bungie brought us firefight, armour abilities, most of the sandbox we see, it brought us these epic characters and customizable Spartans.
Not bashing 343, but it’s much easier to pile on and improve things than to create something from scratch (like Bungie).
I’ll give 343 props for coming up with Spartan Ops, it looks awesome.
> It’s much easier to improve on something than it is to create something. Bungie brought us Forge, Bungie brought us Theater, Bungie brought us firefight, armour abilities, most of the sandbox we see, it brought us these epic characters and customizable Spartans.
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> Not bashing 343, but it’s much easier to pile on and improve things than to create something from scratch (like Bungie).
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> I’ll give 343 props for coming up with Spartan Ops, it looks awesome.
Yes, spartan ops for me (now) it’s the second most important part of halo 4 since it’s basically a 2nd campaign. Not every game has it!
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If “killing” a franchise nets over 600,000 preorders, a very good rating, and most likely a long life with healthy population, then I wish I could cause a franchise to “fail” because I’d be filthy stinking rich…
343 did nothing.
Building upon something is much easier than creating it. Bungie provided the creativity of the whole universe and the artistic identity. Bungie created the Forge, the multiplayer, the Covenant, Master Chief, THE STORY. 343 stole it all along with the fanbase and is now adding so many gimmicks to the gameplay which make you forget that all they are doing is prolonging the franchise for more money.
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> If “killing” a franchise nets over 600,000 preorders, a very good rating, and most likely a long life with healthy population, then I wish I could cause a franchise to “fail” because I’d be filthy stinking rich…
Preorders and ratings hardly mean anything. Also, Black Ops 2 is going to take away any chance of a long life that Halo 4 might have had.
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> Shut up and go back to The Flood fourms…this is 343’s fourms, you have no right to say they are ruining halo. I for one think that 343 is better than bungie. <mark>They are the ones who ruined halo by making Reach…</mark>
You can get out as well…
> 343 did nothing.
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> Bungie provided the creativity of the whole universe and the artistic identity. Bungie created the Forge, the multiplayer, the Covenant, Master Cheif. 343 stole it all along with the fanbase and is now adding so many gimmicks to the gameplay that make you forget that they are milking the franchise for more money.
Have you been paying attention at all to the story?
Halo 4’s story, Chief’s new destiny… thats all 343i’s. Bungie didn’t make that.
And stole it? If “stole” means created by Microsoft for the sole purpose of contuing the Halo franchise, then yes, they stole it.
And then there is Spartan Ops, completely new. Regicide, a new gametype. They’ve made lots of improvements and enhancements, not hesitating to put their name on the future of Halo.
This is a new Halo, 343i’s Halo.
> 343 did nothing.
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> Bungie provided the creativity of the whole universe and the artistic identity. Bungie created the Forge, the multiplayer, the Covenant, Master Cheif. 343 stole it all along with the fanbase and is now adding so many gimmicks to the gameplay that make you forget that they are milking the franchise for more money.
Watch this.
Say that again? 343 Has to revive Halo after it was shot 7 times and thrown out the car unto the side of the road.
I don’t think they are necessarily working harder. You got to remember that they’ve been working on Halo 4 for a lot longer than Bungie ever got to work on a Halo with the exception of Halo CE. They’ve had about a 5 year dev time. Bungie only ever had 3 years.
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> > Bungie provided the creativity of the whole universe and the artistic identity. Bungie created the Forge, the multiplayer, the Covenant, Master Cheif. 343 stole it all along with the fanbase and is now adding so many gimmicks to the gameplay that make you forget that they are milking the franchise for more money.
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> Watch this.
> Say that again? 343 Has to revive Halo after it was shot 7 times and thrown out the car unto the side of the road.
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> But I still love Bungie.
I’ve got to agree with that guy to a point. Almost every new feature they’ve added has just been something that’s directly from COD or Battlefield. I really get the impression they’re trying to “modernize” Halo and steal back a bunch of COD’s player base.