If I hear one more comparison of Halo to COD

SHUT UP! HALO 5 GUARDIANS IS NOTHING LIKE COD! I’m sick of hearing “In halo 5 you aim down sights like in COD” or “look you can sprint! It’s COD.” And the most moronic one “look you can thrust like in COD.” SHUT THE -yoink- UP! I swear to god some people are such bungie fan boy’s or just halo 2 fan boy’s (not saying that’s bad for Halo 2, it deserves it. As for every Halo game does.) Stop looking at the 343 label and counting it out, and actually give it a legitimate try. Guess what? The smart scope in Halo 5, is basically Zoom you people. It’s just fancy and now it makes more sense. You still de-scope, it’s still just as accurate as hip fire, and it just makes it easier to shoot for the player not the gun. Meaning it changes nothing. Also just because you can run and thrust in a game doesn’t make it CoD. You’re a Spartan, it would make sense if you could sprint. Plus it was balanced extremely well! So now you can’t run around the map like a noob because you won’t recover. It forces you to play smart, something CoD doesn’t do. Halo 5 looks, plays, and feels awesome and new. Something Halo needs due to it’s age. It feels like a competitive arena shooter like all the others were except with new mechanics that make it fun. I don’t know about clamber, but the game still rocks.

The resistance to any new feature naturally invokes comparisons to the other contemporary games that have used such mechanics first, but the silly part is that there is nothing truly original in CoD.

I disagree with the SmartScope being nothing different; it adds a scoped firing mode to weapons that previously had none and effects bullet spread when zoomed. It’s not just visual.

I do, however, agree that the CoD comparisons are almost all based in ignorance. However, the Internet is a free place where you can post whatever you like, no matter how stupid it might be.

…but I feel your annoyance.

It’s like Godwin’s Law but specifically for videogames.

“As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Call of Duty approaches 1”

Halo 5 is like COD: AW ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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> Halo 5 is like COD: AW ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Pigs can fly and humans lay eggs.

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> SHUT UP! HALO 5 GUARDIANS IS NOTHING LIKE COD! I’m sick of hearing “In halo 5 you aim down sights like in COD” or “look you can sprint! It’s COD.” And the most moronic one “look you can thrust like in COD.” SHUT THE -yoink- UP! I swear to god some people are such bungie fan boy’s or just halo 2 fan boy’s (not saying that’s bad for Halo 2, it deserves it. As for every Halo game does.) Stop looking at the 343 label and counting it out, and actually give it a legitimate try. Guess what? The smart scope in Halo 5, is basically Zoom you people. It’s just fancy and now it makes more sense. You still de-scope, it’s still just as accurate as hip fire, and it just makes it easier to shoot for the player not the gun. Meaning it changes nothing. Also just because you can run and thrust in a game doesn’t make it CoD. You’re a Spartan, it would make sense if you could sprint. Plus it was balanced extremely well! So now you can’t run around the map like a noob because you won’t recover. It forces you to play smart, something CoD doesn’t do. Halo 5 looks, plays, and feels awesome and new. Something Halo needs due to it’s age. It feels like a competitive arena shooter like all the others were except with new mechanics that make it fun. I don’t know about clamber, but the game still rocks.

Your awesome halo 5 is awesome 343 is awesome and the whole halo universe is awesome in my opinion I HATE COD IM NOT EVEN GOOD AT IT

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> SHUT UP! HALO 5 GUARDIANS IS NOTHING LIKE COD! I’m sick of hearing “In halo 5 you aim down sights like in COD” or “look you can sprint! It’s COD.” And the most moronic one “look you can thrust like in COD.” SHUT THE -yoink- UP! I swear to god some people are such bungie fan boy’s or just halo 2 fan boy’s (not saying that’s bad for Halo 2, it deserves it. As for every Halo game does.) Stop looking at the 343 label and counting it out, and actually give it a legitimate try. Guess what? The smart scope in Halo 5, is basically Zoom you people. It’s just fancy and now it makes more sense. You still de-scope, it’s still just as accurate as hip fire, and it just makes it easier to shoot for the player not the gun. Meaning it changes nothing. Also just because you can run and thrust in a game doesn’t make it CoD. You’re a Spartan, it would make sense if you could sprint. Plus it was balanced extremely well! So now you can’t run around the map like a noob because you won’t recover. It forces you to play smart, something CoD doesn’t do. Halo 5 looks, plays, and feels awesome and new. Something Halo needs due to it’s age. It feels like a competitive arena shooter like all the others were except with new mechanics that make it fun. I don’t know about clamber, but the game still rocks.

I think the funniest part of this whole thing is that the forums have been pretty silent on the whole H5=CoD thing as of late. But if you want to bring the topic back, no biggie. Just say so next time.

First: Bungie fanboys don’t exist. Not after Reach and Destiny. Second: We have tried the beta. Unless our try was not legitimate? Oh tell us, great ROGUE SNIPER 10, how to make our try more legitimate in thy just eyes.

Now. About the issues with Guardians.

> I have measured optimism for Halo 5. The beta was cool, but then, so was Destiny’s. Pretty much every new addition has a drawback I’m not comfortable with.
> - ADS. In and of itself, it’s just a new animation for the same scope. Harmless, but openly unnecessary. The problem arises because now it’s on every gun. It may have been overdue for the AR, but the SMG? The Sword!? Shotguns, Plasma Pistols, Needlers, Gravity Hammers - basically any weapon that required some skill or trick to hip-fire would now have a tacked on zoom feature. If the SMG and Sword are any indication, it won’t be unnoticeable either.
> - Thrust. Once again, pretty much harmless and an interesting new addition. However, when you consider how every FPS these days is attaching added movement options to their combat, the novelty slowly wears off. Once again though, mostly harmless.
> - Clamber. No more Crouch Jumping, eh? Parkour? What about shooting? Can I shoot while I clamber? No? Well that significantly drops the amount of versatility this mechanic could have had. That is the other main thing I’d like to see in Guardians, the ability to shoot whilst I Clamber.
> - Ground Pound. Why? I mean, it would be useful to have a button that brings the player down from the mid glide after a thrust, but why must I that have all the limitations of an offensive ability?
> - Stabilizers. Not as bad as Jetpack was, but still an issue. I can go into zoom and hover. It’s basically the game telling me that I don’t have to worry about shooting while I fall.
> - Sprint. This will never not be an issue for me:

So no. The new stuff isn’t great. It’s not bad because it’s “like CoD,” but because it’s just bad. Then again, so few people are still on the sinking, burning, drowning, starving ship that is the “like CoD” argument, that I really think this entire thread is just replying to things that don’t actually exist.

(That being said. ADS mapped to the left trigger. Kill-cams. Thruster. Just sayin’. Similarities are becoming uncanny.)

Go to the CoD forums, they’re saying CoD should stop stealing from Halo.

Smart Scope has been proven to more accurate then hip fire, it’s not cosmetic at all. I also don’t like that you say he’s a Spartan he should be able to sprint. Spartans can survive a fall from space and flip a tank with no problem but has recoil on an smg. It’s a video game and gameplay is more important than lore. Also, Halo will never be COD but if there was ever an argument for people thinking Halo is becoming like COD in my opinion is that Halo has become very new player friendly. Weapon indicators, weapon respawn timers, clamber (otherwise known as skill jumps being removed), over powered grenades, faster kill times than any other Halo in the past, Spartan chatter tells you where people are on the map as well as if your team picks up the power weapons, ADS, and large maps to sprint away to hide until your shields recharge. To me the reason Halo will never be COD is because it still has a much larger skill gap than COD even with all the new player friendly perks.

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> Go to the CoD forums, they’re saying CoD should stop stealing from Halo.

i think thats a clear indication both communities feel their mechanics are becoming less unique / individualistic

> You still de-scope, it’s still just as accurate as hip fire, and it just makes it easier to shoot for the player not the gun.

Aiming down the scope in Halo 5 makes your gun more accurate. This has been proven time and time again, everything from gameplay videos to developer quotes. I could easily find you proof if requested but it should be common knowledge around here by now.

Frankly, yes, the game IS like CoD, or more specifically the latest CoD. The two games share many more similarities than simply just “being shooters”. You would have to be blind to not see these similarities. You can argue all day about who imitated who or who was first, but the similarities still remain.

> top looking at the 343 label and counting it out, and actually give it a legitimate try

I actually played the Halo 5 Beta. Did you? I doubt it when you’re making incorrect statements like above.

I did try it, and came to the conclusion I wasn’t a huge fan.

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> > You still de-scope, it’s still just as accurate as hip fire, and it just makes it easier to shoot for the player not the gun.
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> Aiming down the scope in Halo 5 makes your gun more accurate. This has been proven time and time again, everything from gameplay videos to developer quotes. I could easily find you proof if requested but it should be common knowledge around here by now.
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> Frankly, yes, the game IS like CoD, or more specifically the latest CoD. The two games share many more similarities than simply just “being shooters”. You would have to be blind to not see these similarities. You can argue all day about who imitated who or who was first, but the similarities still remain.
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> I actually played the Halo 5 Beta. Did you? I doubt it when you’re making incorrect statements like above.
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> I did try it, and came to the conclusion I wasn’t a huge fan.

:smiley:

Ramir3z is back!

Although I agree it’s become a bit like COD, it’s not that, it’s all these new features that are NOT Halo.

Halo 1-3 were the best out of any of the Halo games, that’s a given. Guess which ones were awful and killed the franchise? Reach. Halo 4. Soon to be Halo 5.

Adding all these new things that aren’t Halo and shouldn’t have ever been implemented. The biggest being Sprint.

Population speaks for itself.

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> Although I agree it’s become a bit like COD, it’s not that, it’s all these new features that are NOT Halo.

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People are mistaking the trees for the forest. They see “like CoD” and they focus on the specific words instead of the actual soul of the argument.

Whether it’s actually like CoD or not isn’t what’s important here. What’s important is a significant portion of the fanbase feels hurt, disgruntled, and betrayed.

> Ramir3z is back!

Eh, we’ll see.

I’ve played COD and I don’t like it.
Halo Is MY LIFE!!!
I AGGREE!!! STOP COMPARING THEM!!!

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> Although I agree it’s become a bit like COD, it’s not that, it’s all these new features that are NOT Halo.
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> Halo 1-3 were the best out of any of the Halo games, that’s a given. Guess which ones were awful and killed the franchise? Reach. Halo 4. Soon to be Halo 5.
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> Adding all these new things that aren’t Halo and shouldn’t have ever been implemented. The biggest being Sprint.
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> Population speaks for itself.

ETCHU!!!
Sorry I’m allergic to bullsh##t!!!

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> > Although I agree it’s become a bit like COD, it’s not that, it’s all these new features that are NOT Halo.
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> Eh, we’ll see.

not much discussion to come back to, not until we start seeing what the full experience will entail…can’t wait to not see anything mentioned about multiplayer at E3 :wink:

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> > You still de-scope, it’s still just as accurate as hip fire, and it just makes it easier to shoot for the player not the gun.
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> Aiming down the scope in Halo 5 makes your gun more accurate. This has been proven time and time again, everything from gameplay videos to developer quotes. I could easily find you proof if requested but it should be common knowledge around here by now.
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> Frankly, yes, the game IS like CoD, or more specifically the latest CoD. The two games share many more similarities than simply just “being shooters”. You would have to be blind to not see these similarities. You can argue all day about who imitated who or who was first, but the similarities still remain.
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> I did try it, and came to the conclusion I wasn’t a huge fan.

It’s also been proven shooting in zoom on the BR increases it’s accuracy on Halo 2 and 3 too. So accuracy while zooming is nothing new to halo

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> It’s also been proven shooting in zoom on the BR increases it’s accuracy on Halo 2 and 3 too. So accuracy while zooming is nothing new to halo

I have no friggin clue where you guys get this from. It didn’t. I’ve seen numerous videos that proved this and even tried it myself. Spread patterns were exactly the same, minus the one stray bullet who’s location is random each time. Halo 4 was the first game to change spread based on zoom, now the question is, does this still count as “classic zoom”?

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> Ramir3z is back!

My thoughts exactly :smiley: