If I get put into a game I don't want to play, but I can't leave it since I'd get banned for doing so, I simply don't play the game

Can you answer me this?
If 343 doesn’t care about my enjoyment of the game, why should I play it? The entire point of buying a game is to derive enjoyment from playing it. If I’m not getting that, then what’s the point of playing? If I get put into a game that I’m not going to enjoy and isn’t rewarding to me in any way, then I’m not going to play that game.

And the solution to this for EVERYONE is to allow players to always be playing the games they’d enjoy. Everyone wins.

Crazy idea: This can be true AND I can still call out losers on the forum that quit/afk.

Well, in the end your callouts are BS because of already stated circumstances. But sure, go ahead. :slight_smile:

Here’s a question: Can you simultaneously hold the viewpoint that 343 needs to do more to prevent cheaters from using aimbots AND also say that cheaters who use aimbots are pathetic?

“Yada yada yada…. Playlist health.”

You missed the point. In one scenario, an action causes a reaction. In the other one, there is no action responsible for the reaction… it’s just an action by itsell. I let you figure out which one is which by yourself. ;D

Actually, you’re the one that missed the point.

I never said these scenarios are 100% analogous. I’m asking you if you can simultaneously hold two specific viewpoints and you refused to answer. And I don’t need time to figure out why you didn’t engage with the question ;D

The banhammer will rightfully strike you down for unsportsmanlike behavior

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What’s unsportsmanlike about not participating in something you didn’t choose?

Apparently we are supposed to just kowtow to the holy RNG (which seems to be weighted against giving you modes you need for non-Fracture challenges) and to hell with whether you are playing a mode you enjoy or not. It’s not about your fun or time, for some reason.

This is partly a problem of creating too many modes, and a shrinking population isn’t helping. Arena shooters have spoilt us with variety and choice. I saw it in another game when they tried to funnel players into voting. Players ditch the modes they don’t want to play. I actually prefer playing against bots in modes I like than playing modes I don’t like.

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But he did choose

His approach is passive aggressive.

Im genuinely surprised this isnt obviously unsportsmanlike to you

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Bungie forced you to hit play on that play list even though you knew you might not get to play a map or mode that you wanted?

You can be mad as much as you want at 343i. Call them scummy for not breaking things up. But the instant you throw other people under the bus because you had a temper tantrum when you didn’t get what you wanted. You’re now just as bad as 343i in mine and many others eyes. It definitely is unsportsmanlike to ruin other peoples fun.

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I don’t know if I’d say all of the blame lies with the challenges but it does put a lot of extra pressure on people to play in their own interests instead of as a team.

I was really excited for the Bell Toll visor last week, and got stuck behind a ‘guardian angel’ challenge… decided hell with it, i’m playing for fun, and I had an enjoyable week playing for fun with friends - even some new ones, and completely disregarding challenges. They should really do something more like MCC has

This is my stance on it too. I hate CTF so much I generally avoid ranked and quick play playlists. But if my group is doing quickplay, and we get a CTF, I’ll grit my teeth and work with them to try and win. Dragging your (general ‘you’) feet and being a whiner drags everybody’s moods down. If you find you’re getting too angry about it then take a damn break. It’s just a game.

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Bungie forced you to hit play on that play list even though you knew you might not get to play a map or mode that you wanted?

Bungie?

It’s unsportsmanlike of others to ruin my fun, hence why I proposed solutions so that everyone wins and has fun. The instant you don’t support everyone having fun and have a temper tantrum because other people want what’s best for the game and community you’re now just as bad as 343 in mine and many others’ eyes.

There’s a reason halo will never hold the population other games do

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Totally agree with you. I got banned for leaving matches so now i do what you described above. Its a shame 343i cant fix this problem

I think youre underestimating fomo, and the urge people have to unlock the cosmetics. A lot of players are completionists and want to unlock everything which causes people to do unsportsmanlike things

If he was able to get the gamemode he wanted and he was still quitting then you’d have a valid point.

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I agree with the title of the thread but not the explanation. If the game or its systems aren’t to my liking I just don’t play and spend some throwaway time complaining about the state of the game. I can’t support intentional AFK, cheating, harassing, disrupting the game or frequent leaving as a means to stick it to the devs.

However in typical fashion there are apologists that defend 343 no matter the circumstance, if not by their support then by dismissing any negativity. Halo has had a veto option in Halo 3 and Halo Reach that generally worked well, MCC has a browser. Ultimately the lack of content and the consistently poor playlist structuring and gametype weighting each release has had causes the underlying issues; playing exactly what/how you want and replayability.

For me I like playing precision starts, a veto option which would allow me to sometimes play BR starts like in 3 or Reach would allow me to enjoy the majority of the little content that exists instead of being relegated to 1 playlist. I love team snipers too but the weird aim feel and the sniper glare kills all interest I have in playing it. I used to have 10+ things I enjoyed doing in a Halo game, now I barely have 1, it’s not worth the time.

I think you should play better quality games OP, ruining other peoples potential fun isn’t respectful or considerate, I wouldn’t stop making noise though, I don’t like the state Halo is in or has been in since the changing of the guard. Not supporting the game, criticising and shaming greedy and distrustful actions is the best course of action, rather than continuing to support by playing.

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If he was able to get the gamemode he wanted and he was still quitting then you’d have a valid point.

You act like you didn’t know that Halo has ALWAYS had random game-types since it went online in 2004

Maybe you’re new to the series but its been this way for 18 years.