If i could make a Halo game i would go back to a game like Halo 3 or 2 now before you stop posting “ohh evolve quit complaining” because i enjoy Halo 5 but here is the thing there was nothing wrong with Halo 3 or 2 and not only that Halo needs to pioneer because every fps now days has some kind of crazy movement whether it be wallrunning thrusting boost jumping whatever i would take it back to a game like Halo 3 but we would have the Promethean weapons more vehicles id bring back the pelican and falcon all the weapons id give the community power there would be a playlist where each month or every 2 week would have 3 community forged maps and at the end of the period the community could go online and vote on the map they want to see in matchmaking i would spotlight great community creations like the bungie favorites did i wouldn’t evolve on the core multiplayer because i remember playing Halo 3 no one ever said "man this would be soo much better if i could sprint or thrust or whatever not saying those things are bad but “old” Halo never got a chanvce to die out id evolve oon things like forge add more weapon s new games types i would browse these forums and listen to community feedback even if it was hateful if you are hateful on these forums you get your thread gets locked which should be ok because everyone should get an opinion everyone has a voice i would release free dlc i would make unlocks be unlocked in a way like Halo 3 maybe not unlocking by achievements but unlocking by accomplish ment not play time i would keep trying to release content because sales numbers dont matter population does if i sell 1 million copies but next week cod comes out and 950,000 of tbose people that bought my game by cod and dont come back then the sales numbers don matter because i lost the battle because only 50,000 are playing my game back to pioneering maybe going back a little bit would be a pioneer in a step that we know wont fail im not saying im the best developer ever or i could be the best or its easy i mean look at this thread is all over but im just trying to spread my voice but also if i was making a game i would lie during marketing cough *cough mcc and a little bit of h5 cough Halo 5 is good but not good enough Halo should at least be top 3 played games on xbox one but it hardly makes top 10
If you remember there were still plenty things wrong with Halo 3. I don’t know why everyone sees it as a perfect Halo that was flawless in every way. Because it wasn’t
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> here is the thing there was nothing wrong with Halo 3 or 2
Um, halo2sucks.com was a thing that existed. And B.net had plenty of…spirited discussion about every Halo game released. Including Halo 3.
Neither are perfect games.
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> Neither are perfect games.
ok “nothing wrong” was a bit of a over statement but both games retained population better than Halo reach, 4 (not gonna count mcc simply because if wasnt the games it was the launch") and idk about 5 because theyre is no population counter but since i run into the same people sometime twice in a row there cant be tons of people on
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> If you remember there were still plenty things wrong with Halo 3. I don’t know why everyone sees it as a perfect Halo that was flawless in every way. Because it wasn’t
it may not have been flawless but retained a pretty good population
all im trying to say is why change if it isn’t working out aswell? i love halo 3 and halo 5 for different reasons because they are different games no trying to spread hate just wondering
Ummm punctuation is your friend.
There was plenty wrong with halo 2 and halo 3 (didnt have great weapon balance for one)
You are basically saying you want to make the perfect game but I dont think your aware how complex it would be to implement all of this and still make in successful. You would have to redesign all Promethean weapons to fit into a slower moving game (bolt shot would wreck due to its homing rounds and the players inability to counter, actually thats all Promethean weapons)
Listening to the community would eventually go absolutely no were due to the community not knowing what it wants, some want this, others want this, you will not get a compromise… ever.
Hate to tell ya but sales numbers do matter, if your game has low sales than you will not get the funding to develop the DLC or the content you wish to update it with. Population is important but in the world we live in, sales is just as important when it comes to game development.
MCC didnt lie during marketing, we got exactly what they said, a title with all the masterchief games in it, they never said there would be no bugs or no server issues. Halo 5 was misleading but it still possessed a hint of truth, advertisement is meant to sell a game, and thats what they did, sucks sure but thats the sales game.
Last I checked (before xmas so not sure currently) it was 4-5, still top 10, and Halo is not required to be top 10, they never claimed it would stay that way. It would be nice sure but no gamer should go in expecting their game to be the most popular game. You will just be left disappointed.
Some of your ideas are great and would be nice to have in a halo game but as of now we dont know what will be implemented in halo 6, let alone halo 5. Its plausble some of them will be added or modified, we can only wait and see.
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> > > here is the thing there was nothing wrong with Halo 3 or 2
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> > Um, halo2sucks.com was a thing that existed. And B.net had plenty of…spirited discussion about every Halo game released. Including Halo 3.
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> > Neither are perfect games.
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> ok “nothing wrong” was a bit of a over statement but both games retained population better than Halo reach, 4 (not gonna count mcc simply because if wasnt the games it was the launch") and idk about 5 because theyre is no population counter but since i run into the same people sometime twice in a row there cant be tons of people on
When you stay in a match, aka dont leave the queue after a match you will most likely play with similar people because you are connected to the same server, when you back out you disconnect from it and reconnect to another server changing who you will play with. (Dedicated servers) dont assume a player count is low because you cant see the number
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> Ummm punctuation is your friend.
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> There was plenty wrong with halo 2 and halo 3 (didnt have great weapon balance for one)
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> You are basically saying you want to make the perfect game but I dont think your aware how complex it would be to implement all of this and still make in successful. You would have to redesign all Promethean weapons to fit into a slower moving game (bolt shot would wreck due to its homing rounds and the players inability to counter, actually thats all Promethean weapons)
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> Listening to the community would eventually go absolutely no were due to the community not knowing what it wants, some want this, others want this, you will not get a compromise… ever.
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> Hate to tell ya but sales numbers do matter, if your game has low sales than you will not get the funding to develop the DLC or the content you wish to update it with. Population is important but in the world we live in, sales is just as important when it comes to game development.
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> MCC didnt lie during marketing, we got exactly what they said, a title with all the masterchief games in it, they never said there would be no bugs or no server issues. Halo 5 was misleading but it still possessed a hint of truth, advertisement is meant to sell a game, and thats what they did, sucks sure but thats the sales game.
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> Last I checked (before xmas so not sure currently) it was 4-5, still top 10, and Halo is not required to be top 10, they never claimed it would stay that way. It would be nice sure but no gamer should go in expecting their game to be the most popular game. You will just be left disappointed.
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> Some of your ideas are great and would be nice to have in a halo game but as of now we dont know what will be implemented in halo 6, let alone halo 5. Its plausble some of them will be added or modified, we can only wait and see.
im not saying implement a weapon exactly how it is just didn’t elaborate to save time and who know sif people would read the whole thing. Sales do matter in terms of fiances but where i was coming from was sales doesn’t mean its good. Obviously i wouldn’t listen to literally everything. Also in a way MCC did lie they had that tournament before launch where there was no problems which we all no since MCC didn’t have a LAN system someone probably wouldn’t have made it in or what have you and server issues is a understatement i was playing HCS with my friends one time and was on purple team there was more than just server issues. Halo is a HUGE title it should be high in the most played ranks nit was so huge obviously im not expecting number 1 but number 9 behind fifa i feel it should be higher than that {at the time of writing this} and obviously Halo 3 or 2 werent perfect but they held population good population idk what Halo 5 is at but it cant be high considering there is no population counter
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> If i could make a Halo game i would go back to a game like Halo 3 or 2 now before you stop posting “ohh evolve quit complaining” because i enjoy Halo 5 but here is the thing there was nothing wrong with Halo 3 or 2 and not only that Halo needs to pioneer because every fps now days has some kind of crazy movement whether it be wallrunning thrusting boost jumping whatever i would take it back to a game like Halo 3 but we would have the Promethean weapons more vehicles id bring back the pelican and falcon all the weapons id give the community power there would be a playlist where each month or every 2 week would have 3 community forged maps and at the end of the period the community could go online and vote on the map they want to see in matchmaking i would spotlight great community creations like the bungie favorites did i wouldn’t evolve on the core multiplayer because i remember playing Halo 3 no one ever said "man this would be soo much better if i could sprint or thrust or whatever not saying those things are bad but “old” Halo never got a chanvce to die out id evolve oon things like forge add more weapon s new games types i would browse these forums and listen to community feedback even if it was hateful if you are hateful on these forums you get your thread gets locked which should be ok because everyone should get an opinion everyone has a voice i would release free dlc i would make unlocks be unlocked in a way like Halo 3 maybe not unlocking by achievements but unlocking by accomplish ment not play time i would keep trying to release content because sales numbers dont matter population does if i sell 1 million copies but next week cod comes out and 950,000 of tbose people that bought my game by cod and dont come back then the sales numbers don matter because i lost the battle because only 50,000 are playing my game back to pioneering maybe going back a little bit would be a pioneer in a step that we know wont fail im not saying im the best developer ever or i could be the best or its easy i mean look at this thread is all over but im just trying to spread my voice but also if i was making a game i would lie during marketing cough *cough mcc and a little bit of h5 cough Halo 5 is good but not good enough Halo should at least be top 3 played games on xbox one but it hardly makes top 10
If i could go back I would make everyone use these things called periods.
and im not tryin got say Halo 5 or Halo 4 or whatever are bad games i like every Halo but they way they were received by the community isn’t or wasn’t the best
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> > If i could make a Halo game i would go back to a game like Halo 3 or 2 now before you stop posting “ohh evolve quit complaining” because i enjoy Halo 5 but here is the thing there was nothing wrong with Halo 3 or 2 and not only that Halo needs to pioneer because every fps now days has some kind of crazy movement whether it be wallrunning thrusting boost jumping whatever i would take it back to a game like Halo 3 but we would have the Promethean weapons more vehicles id bring back the pelican and falcon all the weapons id give the community power there would be a playlist where each month or every 2 week would have 3 community forged maps and at the end of the period the community could go online and vote on the map they want to see in matchmaking i would spotlight great community creations like the bungie favorites did i wouldn’t evolve on the core multiplayer because i remember playing Halo 3 no one ever said "man this would be soo much better if i could sprint or thrust or whatever not saying those things are bad but “old” Halo never got a chanvce to die out id evolve oon things like forge add more weapon s new games types i would browse these forums and listen to community feedback even if it was hateful if you are hateful on these forums you get your thread gets locked which should be ok because everyone should get an opinion everyone has a voice i would release free dlc i would make unlocks be unlocked in a way like Halo 3 maybe not unlocking by achievements but unlocking by accomplish ment not play time i would keep trying to release content because sales numbers dont matter population does if i sell 1 million copies but next week cod comes out and 950,000 of tbose people that bought my game by cod and dont come back then the sales numbers don matter because i lost the battle because only 50,000 are playing my game back to pioneering maybe going back a little bit would be a pioneer in a step that we know wont fail im not saying im the best developer ever or i could be the best or its easy i mean look at this thread is all over but im just trying to spread my voice but also if i was making a game i would lie during marketing cough *cough mcc and a little bit of h5 cough Halo 5 is good but not good enough Halo should at least be top 3 played games on xbox one but it hardly makes top 10
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ok i get it i didn’t punctuate.
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> > > > here is the thing there was nothing wrong with Halo 3 or 2
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> > > Um, halo2sucks.com was a thing that existed. And B.net had plenty of…spirited discussion about every Halo game released. Including Halo 3.
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> > > Neither are perfect games.
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> > ok “nothing wrong” was a bit of a over statement but both games retained population better than Halo reach, 4 (not gonna count mcc simply because if wasnt the games it was the launch") and idk about 5 because theyre is no population counter but since i run into the same people sometime twice in a row there cant be tons of people on
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> When you stay in a match, aka dont leave the queue after a match you will most likely play with similar people because you are connected to the same server, when you back out you disconnect from it and reconnect to another server changing who you will play with. (Dedicated servers) dont assume a player count is low because you cant see the number
ok i never knew that but why can’t i see the number? you have to admit it was nice to see the population numbers for every playlist.
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> > There was plenty wrong with halo 2 and halo 3 (didnt have great weapon balance for one)
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> > You are basically saying you want to make the perfect game but I dont think your aware how complex it would be to implement all of this and still make in successful. You would have to redesign all Promethean weapons to fit into a slower moving game (bolt shot would wreck due to its homing rounds and the players inability to counter, actually thats all Promethean weapons)
> >
> > Listening to the community would eventually go absolutely no were due to the community not knowing what it wants, some want this, others want this, you will not get a compromise… ever.
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> > Hate to tell ya but sales numbers do matter, if your game has low sales than you will not get the funding to develop the DLC or the content you wish to update it with. Population is important but in the world we live in, sales is just as important when it comes to game development.
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> > MCC didnt lie during marketing, we got exactly what they said, a title with all the masterchief games in it, they never said there would be no bugs or no server issues. Halo 5 was misleading but it still possessed a hint of truth, advertisement is meant to sell a game, and thats what they did, sucks sure but thats the sales game.
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> > Last I checked (before xmas so not sure currently) it was 4-5, still top 10, and Halo is not required to be top 10, they never claimed it would stay that way. It would be nice sure but no gamer should go in expecting their game to be the most popular game. You will just be left disappointed.
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> > Some of your ideas are great and would be nice to have in a halo game but as of now we dont know what will be implemented in halo 6, let alone halo 5. Its plausble some of them will be added or modified, we can only wait and see.
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> im not saying implement a weapon exactly how it is just didn’t elaborate to save time and who know sif people would read the whole thing. Sales do matter in terms of fiances but where i was coming from was sales doesn’t mean its good. Obviously i wouldn’t listen to literally everything. Also in a way MCC did lie they had that tournament before launch where there was no problems which we all no since MCC didn’t have a LAN system someone probably wouldn’t have made it in or what have you and server issues is a understatement i was playing HCS with my friends one time and was on purple team there was more than just server issues. Halo is a HUGE title it should be high in the most played ranks nit was so huge obviously im not expecting number 1 but number 9 behind fifa i feel it should be higher than that {at the time of writing this} and obviously Halo 3 or 2 werent perfect but they held population good population idk what Halo 5 is at but it cant be high considering there is no population counter
Again you cant say its not high because you cant see the number. No one has the information to make the claim that its low or high, as of now all we know is that it has enough players to find games relatively easy at a reasonable speed.
I agree sales do not mean the game is good but your post is focusing on making a halo game so finances is extremely important, i mean obviously I dont think your going to try to make one right now but the finance part when it comes to this cant be ignored. Of course it be fantastic if the whole part of the equation did not matter, heck the gaming world that currently exists would be a much better place lol.
The build before release was just that a build of the game that was not apart of the final product. Game companies put a lot of attention into the things they show before release thats why they appear less buggy or in a word perfect (technically).
Guess its just my viewpoint but all because its a big title doesnt mean its going to be the most popular, I mean Madden is a big title (not as big obviously) but that is almost never on the most popular list, Heck battlefront is as well and if I remember correctly thats not on the list or at least if it is not very high (could be wrong).
Like I said earlier some of your ideas are things I wish were in halo like UNSC air vehicles or the implication of community feedback (i mean we can see it here and there but it could always be better)
Hey if you do make a game or one similar to halo, plz implement some of these things cause more of these ideas would be a breath of fresh air right lol
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> > > ok “nothing wrong” was a bit of a over statement but both games retained population better than Halo reach, 4 (not gonna count mcc simply because if wasnt the games it was the launch") and idk about 5 because theyre is no population counter but since i run into the same people sometime twice in a row there cant be tons of people on
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> > When you stay in a match, aka dont leave the queue after a match you will most likely play with similar people because you are connected to the same server, when you back out you disconnect from it and reconnect to another server changing who you will play with. (Dedicated servers) dont assume a player count is low because you cant see the number
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> ok i never knew that but why can’t i see the number? you have to admit it was nice to see the population numbers for every playlist.
They did it so they wouldnt have to hear the whole “population is dyeing” complaint that will never go away
If you made a future Halo game exactly like 2, it’d probably be met with some heavy criticism and not sell very well.
2 and 3 may not have been perfect but they were both immensely popular and unarguably the best (or at least the most succesful) in the franchise.
if i made a halo game it would include a single player rpg-fps akin to borderlands or destiny that takes your marine recruit up through the ranks by playing through a story that spans the events of reach through current story until you become a spartan.
Really sorry to bring this up, but punctuation and paragraphs are needed.