If Flood is in Infinite...

Please 343, if the flood is in Infinite please don’t include them in the marketing campaign. Keep the flood as a surprise. Try to emulate the shock and mystery that CE embodied so well. Please don’t use the flood as a cheap selling point. The surprise will sell itself (think Avengers: Infinite War).

(post inspired by u/a2s3d45fg on reddit)

I concur. I want it to come as a surprise as well.

It’d be a solid marketing decision not to reveal the flood being present, if they are. If the game has enough meat on its bones minus the Flood, then their surprise introduction would be a mind blower and some serious incentive to check out the campaign via word of mouth.

I mean it’s the most possible thing. The game will likely take place on Zeta halo, the Ring with many proto graveminds. And it will be really amazing and surprising to encounter them once again like CE. That mystery will be well appreciated

i think the flood will be in the game, in some way or another. i do have to agree with you though, do not use it to advertise. the surprise of the flood in CE was fantastic

Definitely, marketing should absolutely not be something where they reveal all their cards, some major events should remain a mystery untill the time is right.

I do believe it’s possible. In Halo Wars 2, you do awake them.

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> Please 343, if the flood is in Infinite please don’t include them in the marketing campaign. Keep the flood as a surprise. Try to emulate the shock and mystery that CE embodied so well. Please don’t use the flood as a cheap selling point. The surprise will sell itself (think Avengers: Infinite War).
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> (post inspired by u/a2s3d45fg on reddit)

Same here. If 343i advertises it, I hope it’s just little hints and clues that tell you the flood is returning. The final level if they use a level system in their campaign I would imagine is the Covenant, UNSC, Prometheans, all fighting the flood or a gravemind. I’m not too big on the lore, please don’t grill me about it, but I think that’d be a cool idea. If they advertise it, they should give hints, not just announce flood in Infinite.

I’d rather they just market it like normal. It already feels obvious that there coming since we already know they exist on HW2 and it seems obvious that there on most Halo rings so there’s not going to be much of a surprise…I don’t want the Flood to end up feeling like a minor issue like an afterthought. If there going to hide anything I’d say things like maybe the Didact returning or maybe the return of the Librarian or Guilty Spark.

The Flood returning to the campaign would sure be a good idea and I’ve been in support of that ever since I first heard about predictions of the Flood returning in Halo Infinite.

I reckon it will have the flood I mean that pug they hired to make the noises. Also I think most halos have flood containment facilities.

Flesh and faith

I’m assuming the flood are in Infinite. Zeta Halo has a huge role to play in the Forerunner-Flood War and I imagine you couldn’t go there without encountering the Flood. If the Flood aren’t in Infinite, then I imagine that it probably would be a miss. So, assuming that the Flood are in fact on Zeta Halo given what we know from lore, then that would mean 343i is already not including them in the marketing. Good Job 343i, keep it that way please!

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> I reckon it will have the flood I mean that pug they hired to make the noises. Also I think most halos have flood containment facilities.

No. Those pug noises are most definitely Unngoy noises.

I’m probably the only one with this sentiment but I really don’t want the Flood returning. If it does, we have a Star Wars sequel trilogy problem on our hands where the originals are rendered pointless because they bring back the exact same villains that have to be defeated the exact same way. We all know how terrible that turned out so I really don’t want Halo going the same route.

I also think 343 never intended to bring the Flood back but overwhelming fan demand forced them to, hence why they relegated it to a spin-off game’s DLC instead of treating it like a monumental event. This also created a bunch of lore confusion like how did they survive Installation 08/4B’s firing, the new pure forms, key-minds, etc. Really just a big mess that I’d much rather avoid. Because of this, unless 343 can come up with a darn good reason why it shouldn’t be, I personally treat Awakening the Nightmare as non-canon.

Another unpopular opinion, the Flood are more annoying to fight than Prometheans. Prometheans are annoying as heck with the Watchers and teleportation sure, but at least this means they require some effort to defeat. With the Flood, just grab a shotgun. They’ll keep running at you and you can just keep mowing them down until you finally reach the end of the level. It gets incredibly boring after awhile, especially since the majority of the levels featuring the Flood are ridiculously repetitive and overlong (especially the Library).

I don’t think a 1-2 mission side-quest cameo where they break out of containment on Zeta Halo and you have to force them back would work either. The whole point of the Flood is rapid expansion that is extremely difficult to overcome (one single Flood spore could destroy the entire planet, glassing a continent because of a relatively small outbreak, etc). A brief cameo where they get defeated relatively easily would go against that. So to me, they either need to be the main villain, which I’ve already said probably doesn’t work, or they shouldn’t be in the game at all.

That being said, I don’t write it off entirely. I suppose there are ways it could work. But until 343 provides a solid lore explanation, makes their mechanics more interesting, and their levels less repetitive, I will adamantly remain against the Flood’s return.

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> Please 343, if the flood is in Infinite please don’t include them in the marketing campaign. Keep the flood as a surprise. Try to emulate the shock and mystery that CE embodied so well. Please don’t use the flood as a cheap selling point. The surprise will sell itself (think Avengers: Infinite War).
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> (post inspired by u/a2s3d45fg on reddit)

The Same Surprise of Halo CE maybe the sound on the final trailer

I hate the Flood. I can’t stand it. A vile, putrid evil that seeps into everything and causes death and decay. I was happy to have to Flood destroyed in Halo 3. My rage was unbridled when I learned of its return in Halo Wars 2. If the Flood are in Halo: Infinite, well then I know exactly who to blame.

YOU! All of you vermin! The fans who begged for the Ancient Enemy to be brought into the fold once again. Therefore the writers and directors gave you what you wished for. So if the Flood are in Infinite, then you are required to play the game.

If you all brought this Sickness to our shores, then you will aid in its defeat!

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> I’m probably the only one with this sentiment but I really don’t want the Flood returning. If it does, we have a Star Wars sequel trilogy problem on our hands where the originals are rendered pointless because they bring back the exact same villains that have to be defeated the exact same way. We all know how terrible that turned out so I really don’t want Halo going the same route.
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> I also think 343 never intended to bring the Flood back but overwhelming fan demand forced them to, hence why they relegated it to a spin-off game’s DLC instead of treating it like a monumental event. This also created a bunch of lore confusion like how did they survive Installation 08/4B’s firing, the new pure forms, key-minds, etc. Really just a big mess that I’d much rather avoid. Because of this, unless 343 can come up with a darn good reason why it shouldn’t be, I personally treat Awakening the Nightmare as non-canon.
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> Another unpopular opinion, the Flood are more annoying to fight than Prometheans. Prometheans are annoying as heck with the Watchers and teleportation sure, but at least this means they require some effort to defeat. With the Flood, just grab a shotgun. They’ll keep running at you and you can just keep mowing them down until you finally reach the end of the level. It gets incredibly boring after awhile, especially since the majority of the levels featuring the Flood are ridiculously repetitive and overlong (especially the Library).
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> I don’t think a 1-2 mission side-quest cameo where they break out of containment on Zeta Halo and you have to force them back would work either. The whole point of the Flood is rapid expansion that is extremely difficult to overcome (one single Flood spore could destroy the entire planet, glassing a continent because of a relatively small outbreak, etc). A brief cameo where they get defeated relatively easily would go against that. So to me, they either need to be the main villain, which I’ve already said probably doesn’t work, or they shouldn’t be in the game at all.
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> That being said, I don’t write it off entirely. I suppose there are ways it could work. But until 343 provides a solid lore explanation, makes their mechanics more interesting, and their levels less repetitive, I will adamantly remain against the Flood’s return.

I think you misread one key word in my post. “IF”

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> I hate the Flood. I can’t stand it. A vile, putrid evil that seeps into everything and causes death and decay. I was happy to have to Flood destroyed in Halo 3. My rage was unbridled when I learned of its return in Halo Wars 2. If the Flood are in Halo: Infinite, well then I know exactly who to blame.
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> YOU! All of you vermin! The fans who begged for the Ancient Enemy to be brought into the fold once again. Therefore the writers and directors gave you what you wished for. So if the Flood are in Infinite, then you are required to play the game.
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> If you all brought this Sickness to our shores, then you will aid in its defeat!

I think you didn’t read one important word in my post. “IF”

flood vs prometheans will be difficult to make i think, prometheans need to much tactic, while the flood needs to be stronger. i could be wrong tho