Probably wondering about the vague summary, well couldn’t fit it in
Question is, if the Prophets (San 'Shyuum) never made covernent, would UNSC (Humanity) be at war with any of the species that make up the covernent?
Wondering like would San 'Shyuum still persue the rings? Would Elites gone to war with humanity if the covernent been around?
Guess context is alternate version of the universe, just covernent wasn’t around at the start.
I think Brutes go to war with everyone, Grunts be not hostile and Elites would probably duel but if humanity is strong for they fight just for test of strange but not for war.
San 'Shyuum have beef with Humanity so they be coming for us. Hunter’s never been around without the Covernent.
First off, it is spelled C O V E N A N T, not Covernent.
The UNSC and the UEG, if they were both still intact and operating, would still be fighting the Insurrection (a rebellion movement created out of hate for the Earth/Inner Colonies-centric governance).
The Spartan-II (Master Chief) Program was designed entirely for stopping the Insurrection and the otherwise inevitable collapse of Human civilization back into a relative dark age, had the Insurrection been allowed to continue.
I very much doubt that without the Covenant, we’d ever have to worry about the alien species attacking us. The Prophets and Elites were bitter enemies, and would have still been fighting each other in a bloody war. And all the other species in the Covenant were not advanced enough to pose a threat to Humanity, most still contained within their home star systems either through lack of advancement or self-inflicted technological stagnation due to constant warfare (the Brutes).
So no, the UNSC wouldn’t be fighting any of the alien species if the Covenant did not exist. It would instead be locked in a brutal civil war with the Insurrection.
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If the Covenant was never formed, that means either the San 'Shyuum or the Sangheili were wiped out, or both. If there was no Writ of Union then there would be no Covenant empire. The Unggoy would still be wallowing on their ecologically tedious homeworld, the Jiralhanae would be continuing to beat themselves into the stone age, the Lekgolo would still be worming their way around Te, and the Kig Yar would be ripping each other off. None of them were Tier 2 civilizations until they joined the Covenant. So without the Covenant, no Tier 2 and no chance to meet humanity. At least not for a few hundred years. Many of the Covenant client species were space-faring a long time ago, but I think all were confined to at least Tier 4 by the time the Covenant showed up to annex them.
But humanity would still be at war with the Insurrection and big things like the Spartan program would still have happened (though I imagine S-III wouldn’t have happened). Humanity’s homeostasis, at least in the Halo Universe, is war after all. Ancient Humanity fought the ancient San 'Shyuum, the Forerunners, the Flood… then humanity of today fought themselves, the Covenant, and now the left over Promethean forces of the Forerunners. So if humanity ever ran into any of these species at some point in your hypothetical, you can rest assured that warfare would soon follow.
I think if the insurrection was put down by the Spartans from class one and class two, along with humanity fairly rapid progress with technology from secret forerunner sites and the UNSC own scientist and constant expansion, the UNSC would have encountered one of these races at some point, more likely the Kig- Yar in my opinion.
At this point we could have seen a very different galaxy where humanity becomes the dominant power and uplifts the likes of the Unggoy and might engage in small scale warfare with the Brutes, more likely assisting the more dominant clans.
It would all change when they meet the Prophets and Elites. Given their knowledge of the existence of the Forerunners, if humanity at the time of first contact had control over Forerunner tech, it could spark an instant conflict with either faction, more likely the Prophets.
However at that point, I think aside from a few early, quick victories on the part of the Prophets, the UNSC would beat them back and form fairly secure alliances post war, similar to what we see in current lore, except humanity though dominant my not have as much understanding of forerunners as they do now.
If the Covenant was never formed, then the UNSC and Insurrectionists would be at war. You’ve probably heard that by now. The war between the UNSC and Insurrectionists was briefly paused and they had a begrudged ceasefire to focus on the bigger threat (that being the Covenant) that was threatening their entire species and in some of the first contact cases, the UNSC and Insurrectionists worked together. We see this being evident in Halo Forward Unto Dawn. But because the Covenant never existed in this case, the UNSC and Insurrectionists would still be at war. I believe that eventually the UNSC would become triumphant however as they had the greater amount of resources than the Insurrectionists. On another note to add to that the UNSC would probably find another way to find war as that’s what they seem best at, it’s like second nature to humanity at this point.
This is based on the assumption that Humanity makes contact with any of these species, which would be very unlikely for some time. The Assembly would protect Humanity and its endeavors by diverting them into untapped space, where alien life wasn’t present. The Assembly thought Humanity was too young to communicate with alien life, because they assumed that any sentient species would have more advanced technology and pose a grave threat, which was true. I think the Assembly would show Humanity alien life not until the 2600’s. But if Humanity was to contact each individual Covenant race, I think this is what would happen: Humanity and San’Shyuum would get along to an extent, like they did in the Forerunner Era. Humanity and Kig-Yar would trade with one another. Humanity and Sangheili would dispute over Forerunner relics but would ally with most Sangheili clans, some not accepting Humanity. Humanity and Huragok would ally. Humanity and Jiralhanae would go to war, but Humanity would win sitting at the Technological Advancement Tier of 2, and Jiralhanae being at 4 or 5. Humanity and Lekgolo would eventually get along after figuring out how to communicate with one another. Honestly I don’t know what would happen with the Unggoy or the Yanme’e.
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> This is based on the assumption that Humanity makes contact with any of these species, which would be very unlikely for some time. The Assembly would protect Humanity and its endeavors by diverting them into untapped space, where alien life wasn’t present. The Assembly thought Humanity was too young to communicate with alien life, because they assumed that any sentient species would have more advanced technology and pose a grave threat, which was true. I think the Assembly would show Humanity alien life not until the 2600’s. But if Humanity was to contact each individual Covenant race, I think this is what would happen: Humanity and San’Shyuum would get along to an extent, like they did in the Forerunner Era. Humanity and Kig-Yar would trade with one another. Humanity and Sangheili would dispute over Forerunner relics but would ally with most Sangheili clans, some not accepting Humanity. Humanity and Huragok would ally. Humanity and Jiralhanae would go to war, but Humanity would win sitting at the Technological Advancement Tier of 2, and Jiralhanae being at 4 or 5. Humanity and Lekgolo would eventually get along after figuring out how to communicate with one another. Honestly I don’t know what would happen with the Unggoy or the Yanme’e.
Disagree with some of your analysis (think if Humanity and the Sangheili had met over Forerunner artefacts then war would have ensued), but on the whole a good summary.
The real question is whether or not humanity’s technological expansion would have been accelerated or delayed by failure tohave contact with the Covenant. They had many Forerunner sites literally under their feet for centuries without realising so it’s somewhat doubtful that without the impetus of intel and technology recovered from the Covenant that humanity would have developed even a fraction of their post-war innovations even by the end of the century
The Insurrectionists, also known as insurgents or rebels, were human groups dedicated to completing the liberation of the Outer Colonies from the influence of the Unified Earth Government and the United Nations Space Command. They were the main enemy of the UNSC during the Insurrection, an undeclared civil war between the UNSC and various insurgent factions, including the United Rebel Front.
Well maybe, eventually humanity will find theses species. However, since the covenant was never formed, humanity is not seen as a threat to the Great Journey, therefore there would be no reason for war with these species, and there could possibly be alliances formed with these species to finish off the insurrectionists, and eventually discovering the Halo rings, together.
Knowing humans, if we’re not at war with an alien species, we’re probably at war with our selves. Rebellious with continue to grow if there is nothing to stop them. Since the different species didn’t unite to form the Covenant, there is no common goal to accomplish. Humans aren’t in danger of being wiped out because of some Great Journey and humanity could possibly see these species as “friends” rather than foes. Though there will always be some that disagree with the system and fight back, and that’s just what makes humans… it’s number one threat (For now).
Hard to say, but if there was no Covenant Empire, chances are that humanity would be battling insurrectionist still but to what extent would be a mystery. The Spartan-IIs would definetly still exist since they were made for battling Insurrectionist.
Spartan-IIs were inducted and trained specifically for “surgical precision” in contending with the Insurrection. Within the same year after having undergone the augmentations, John’s team was able to infiltrate and capture the leader of the United Rebel Front, Robert Watts. Halsey was explaining how the capture of that man would deprive the rebels of their leadership. One soldier by the name of Gage Yevgenny pondered as to what the strength of the rebels would be like without its acting commander. Of course we know that the rebels still had spies and insiders as can be seen in Silent Storm so it would be far from over.
Humanity would still have rebellion but the dire prospects of a crippling civil war that sees billions dead might be averted under these circumstances.
Who knows how the other species would get along. Sangheili were the only species with a significant number of colonies like humans iirc. Kig-Yar had managed to travel outside the boundaries of their indigenous home world and create societies in the outlying asteroid belts of the Y’Deio system but that’s quite limited. Interesting enough, this was the planetary system documented by humanity prior to the Covenant war, according to the Encyclopedia. Kig-Yar might be the one species whom humanity could foreseeably have a chance of coming into contact with on their own.
Given the pension of Kig-Yar for banditry and black markets, I’m not sure how much negotiating there would be for the UEG with the scoundrels and insurrectionist equivalents of that species. I think the Encyclopedia mentions there being some kind of government so perhaps humanity could establish relations with them. Humans and Kig-Yar do seem to gravitate towards one another when it comes to trade and economic relations. In this hypothetical it might be the Kig-Yar who form the closest relationship with humans if only on an independent level.
Since it was mentioned, I also believe the Lekgolo and Yanme’e would keep to themselves. Unggoy would remain confined to their own home world. Jiralhanae are also limited in the greater galactic narrative, sans a miraculous discovery by other spaceworthy species, since their technology is only about on-par with what humans had in the mid-20th century. San-Shyuum and Sangheili would be the most interesting as they’re presumably still embroiled in conflict with one another. They would either need to call a ceasefire and leave each other alone or the San-Shyuum would likely be destroyed in a war of attrition.
Had the covenant not formed, then there’s a good chance the san-shyum (prophet race) and sangheli (elites) would still be at war, each trying to get the upper hand through discovery of ancient forerunner tech. One of these races, likely the san-shyuum might have accidentally unlocked the flood on a forerunner vessel/research lab and humanity’s first discovery of intelligent alien life would be the flood itself, intensely more powerful than it had been. I dunno, it’s all conjecture but I like to think the covenant served a vital role in keeping the flood at bay b4 humanity’s blunders on the 1st Halo
I would say yes as there would still be a possibility that humanity would find the Flood or some forerunner structures. However, this comes with the assumption that the Humans manged to develop the technology for relatively efficient space exploration completely independently from the covenant as then we would otherwise still be stuck on the earth or any nearby planets.
