They would delay Halo 5 and FIX Halo MCC and add a remastered map pack for free.
If they don’t, Halo MCC will have a low population and remain buggy. Halo 5 will surely die within the month.
Actually, what 343i needs to do is have more game updates per month. Having more chefs in the kitchen will only slow things down.
They couldn’t pay me to play H5 after MCC
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> They would delay Halo 5 and FIX Halo MCC and add a remastered map pack for free.
> If they don’t, Halo MCC will have a low population and remain buggy. Halo 5 will surely die within the month.
But they are releasing a remastered map for free, releasing a game for free, pretty sure they have further plans to include more maps in the future. Sure Halo 5 might die in population but MCC will have a steady population because it actually has proper Halo games. (Halo 1/2/3)
- Halo 5 and the MCC are being made/maintained by 2 seperate teams that share nothing but the company logo.
- We’re already getting free stuffs for the MCC
- The MCC already has a low population.
- Halo 5 will surely NOT die within a month.
1.) i know
2.) we’re getting 1 map
3.) the mcc wouldn’t have a low population if that game actually worked
4.) remains to be seen, but the broken mcc will surley drop sales and if history repeats itself it’ll be like halo 4 all over again
how dare u sheep defend 343 for releasing rushed garbage…
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> They would delay Halo 5 and FIX Halo MCC and add a remastered map pack for free.
> If they don’t, Halo MCC will have a low population and remain buggy. Halo 5 will surely die within the month.
You have it quite backwards, if they are smart they will release halo 5 a soon as possible, so that the MCC can be forgotten in the past.
It will be a no brainer for the current MCC population to jump ship to Halo 5 when it comes out. If the MCC worked perfectly then halo 5’s population would suffer.
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> They couldn’t pay me to play H5 after MCC
Then WTF are you still doing here? Good bye, Don’t Let the Door hit you on your way back to CoD.
Of course it was rushed. MS put an unreasonable release date on 343i.
Most games have a 2-3 year dev cycle. This was done in what? 11 months? Which is why they had to outsource everything. Its in very good condition when you take in all of the variables surrounding its time frame.
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> They would delay Halo 5 and FIX Halo MCC and add a remastered map pack for free.
> If they don’t, Halo MCC will have a low population and remain buggy. Halo 5 will surely die within the month.
I almost wish 343 had never offered any so-called compensation to begin with because it opens a door to moral blackmail and an endless sense of entitlement. Witness this thread. How on earth can you equate a “fixed” MCC (if it’s even possible) and a random map pack with the integrity of the company? Or the integrity of their customers, for the matter of that? Launching the game in a broken state was unethical, but suggesting that we’re willing to be “bought off” puts us on some pretty tenuous moral ground as well, imo.
And anyway, MCC is being slowly fixed, and you will be getting ODST for free and a free month of xbox live. How long do expect this gravy train to last?
And even if MCC was 100% by tomorrow morning and completely bug-free… the population is not coming back. Ever.
And this thread is also proof that the fate of Guardians does not hang on the fate of MCC. If people were really that disappointed then they would simply forget about the existence of Halo, sell back their copy of MCC, and then not buy Guardians in October. They wouldn’t be on a forum cynically trolling for material gain with the implication that, while they are “morally outraged,” they can in fact be had for a price.
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> They couldn’t pay me to play H5 after MCC
343i did not develop the MCC.
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> They would delay Halo 5 and FIX Halo MCC and add a remastered map pack for free.
> If they don’t, Halo MCC will have a low population and remain buggy. Halo 5 will surely die within the month.
So what your saying is taking away focus from Halo 5 and putting it towards MCC will make Halo 5 better?
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> > They would delay Halo 5 and FIX Halo MCC and add a remastered map pack for free.
> > If they don’t, Halo MCC will have a low population and remain buggy. Halo 5 will surely die within the month.
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> But they are releasing a remastered map for free, releasing a game for free, pretty sure they have further plans to include more maps in the future. Sure Halo 5 might die in population but MCC will have a steady population because it actually has proper Halo games. (Halo 1/2/3)
Chances are any other extra content has been scrapped. Chances are they had DLC planned but the population isn’t there to support it. MCC has the worst population of any halo yet due to the buggy release that made people run away.
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> > They would delay Halo 5 and FIX Halo MCC and add a remastered map pack for free.
> > If they don’t, Halo MCC will have a low population and remain buggy. Halo 5 will surely die within the month.
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> So what your saying is taking away focus from Halo 5 and putting it towards MCC will make Halo 5 better?
He,s not saying that, hes saying make MCC work and give us what we paid for before abandoning ship for the hype train that is halo 5.
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> > They would delay Halo 5 and FIX Halo MCC and add a remastered map pack for free.
> > If they don’t, Halo MCC will have a low population and remain buggy. Halo 5 will surely die within the month.
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> I almost wish 343 had never offered any so-called compensation to begin with because it opens a door to moral blackmail and an endless sense of entitlement. Witness this thread. How on earth can you equate a “fixed” MCC (if it’s even possible) and a random map pack with the integrity of the company? Or the integrity of their customers, for the matter of that? Launching the game in a broken state was unethical, but suggesting that we’re willing to be “bought off” puts us on some pretty tenuous moral ground as well, imo.
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> And anyway, MCC is being slowly fixed, and you will be getting ODST for free and a free month of xbox live. How long do expect this gravy train to last?
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> And even if MCC was 100% by tomorrow morning and completely bug-free… the population is not coming back. Ever.
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> And this thread is also proof that the fate of Guardians does not hang on the fate of MCC. If people were really that disappointed then they would simply forget about the existence of Halo, sell back their copy of MCC, and then not buy Guardians in October. They wouldn’t be on a forum cynically trolling for material gain with the implication that, while they are “morally outraged,” they can in fact be had for a price.
I think you are right. Even if they can out with a unicorn patch asap and it fixed everything that not many players would return. It has taken to long and most have given up. Also at the end of the day why did you buy a Xbox one? Was it so you could play games with sub par graphics for the console from what a decade ago or did you buy it for new exciting games with badyoink graphics? Yeah I got to play some old school Halo but I am over it and ready for Halo 5.
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> 343i did not develop the MCC.
I’m tired of this excuse. They can farm the work out all they want, it is released under the 343 name. Their responsibility was to make sure the work performed was adequate to be released to the public.
Before I became a pharmacist, I worked in labs for two of the major BigPharma companies out there, under contract, to test and develop new drug compounds. The actual company I worked for simply had the work contracted to us by these bigger conglomerates. We had to report, at minimum, once per week to these guys to let them know everything that was going right or wrong with our projects. They had the final say over whether or not the results were acceptable. If they accepted the results and there was a problem after that, it wasn’t our fault; it was theirs for accepting data that should not have been accepted, regardless of whether or not they made a mistake.
So, don’t give us this non-sense that 343 didn’t develop this. They did, by delegating the work out to other people. Any problems that we’ve experienced are 343’s fault, due to either improper evaluation of the results they were being given, or by having what we’ll refer to as “inadequate quality control/quality assurance”. They are responsible for the decisions that they made and I don’t care if different teams are working on the MCC and Halo 5, respectively. What I care about is that if 343 couldn’t trust or hire enough people to work on the MCC in-house and under their direct supervision and there were still this many problems after they gave it the green-light, then they’re going to have to prove to me that they’ve learned from their mistakes.
There is simply no excuse to pre-order Halo 5 after the MCC release. By all means, if the title is working fine at launch based on reviews, go out and buy it on Day 1 and play to your heart’s content. But, pre-ordering it and placing faith in a company that has shown you what, exactly? And don’t even try and cite the fact that they’re still fixing it because that is good and they have come a long way, but they are doing the absolute bare minimum. There is still a long way to go for this to be “Halo as you remembered it” and currently, that promise has not been delivered on, so why should you expect any other promises to be delivered on.
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> > They would delay Halo 5 and FIX Halo MCC and add a remastered map pack for free.
> > If they don’t, Halo MCC will have a low population and remain buggy. Halo 5 will surely die within the month.
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> But they are releasing a remastered map for free, releasing a game for free, pretty sure they have further plans to include more maps in the future. Sure Halo 5 might die in population but MCC will have a steady population because it actually has proper Halo games. (Halo 1/2/3)
Do you really think one map (Relic, not even that popular) is enough to bring people back? Do you really think the people out there really want a non-HD port of ODST when most still have their 360? (It doesn’t even include firefight!)
The MCC has proper Halo games but people aren’t going to come back in droves at this point. For most casuals, this game is already a distant memory. 343 probably would need to go all-in and release, for free (because paid DLC is simply not even an option at this point, as it would further divide the player population. Not to mention the audacity of charging us more money after the problems this title still continues to experience), every Halo 2 map in a remastered state for H2A (regardless of your opinion of H2A mechanics), include at least the multiplayer for MCC as a free add-on for ALL Halo 5 purchasers and basically go on an aggressive promotion of this point and saying that this is them making up for their mistakes.
That’s really the only way. They need to draw attention to themselves for the mistakes and what they’ve done to correct those mistakes. I don’t doubt that there will always be a low, but steady, number of players playing the MCC but if nothing else is done besides the planned “compensation”, then this title is going to be a distant memory by the time Halo 5 comes out, regardless of how good or bad it does. I realize there’s some hyperbole here, but it should be easy to discern the point.
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> > > They would delay Halo 5 and FIX Halo MCC and add a remastered map pack for free.
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> > But they are releasing a remastered map for free, releasing a game for free, pretty sure they have further plans to include more maps in the future. Sure Halo 5 might die in population but MCC will have a steady population because it actually has proper Halo games. (Halo 1/2/3)
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> Do you really think one map (Relic, not even that popular) is enough to bring people back? Do you really think the people out there really want a non-HD port of ODST when most still have their 360? (It doesn’t even include firefight!)
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> The MCC has proper Halo games but people aren’t going to come back in droves at this point. For most casuals, this game is already a distant memory. 343 probably would need to go all-in and release, for free (because paid DLC is simply not even an option at this point, as it would further divide the player population. Not to mention the audacity of charging us more money after the problems this title still continues to experience), every Halo 2 map in a remastered state for H2A (regardless of your opinion of H2A mechanics), include at least the multiplayer for MCC as a free add-on for ALL Halo 5 purchasers and basically go on an aggressive promotion of this point and saying that this is them making up for their mistakes.
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> That’s really the only way. They need to draw attention to themselves for the mistakes and what they’ve done to correct those mistakes. I don’t doubt that there will always be a low, but steady, number of players playing the MCC but if nothing else is done besides the planned “compensation”, then this title is going to be a distant memory by the time Halo 5 comes out, regardless of how good or bad it does. I realize there’s some hyperbole here, but it should be easy to discern the point.
Non-HD port? Lolwut? They have released screens of the 1080p remaster.
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> > > They would delay Halo 5 and FIX Halo MCC and add a remastered map pack for free.
> > > If they don’t, Halo MCC will have a low population and remain buggy. Halo 5 will surely die within the month.
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> > But they are releasing a remastered map for free, releasing a game for free, pretty sure they have further plans to include more maps in the future. Sure Halo 5 might die in population but MCC will have a steady population because it actually has proper Halo games. (Halo 1/2/3)
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> Chances are any other extra content has been scrapped. Chances are they had DLC planned but the population isn’t there to support it. MCC has the worst population of any halo yet due to the buggy release that made people run away.
Probably true about the dlc on the MCC but even with h5 released then MCC will still be more popular due to the higher variety in maps while Halo 5 just feels like Halo 4.5
As from what I remember playing from the beta it seemed bad, well MCC is probably the best place to go for proper Halo games so once H5 is mostly done for GS then I’d go back to playing MCC for Halo 1/2/3 aka proper Halo.
“Hey team working on Halo 5, we are going to make you stop working on Halo 5 and delay the game indefinitely so the entirely seperate team that works on TMCC can fix it”.
Logic.